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Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:58 PM

All these mass shooting at too sanitized for the public

We need to start seeing the aftermath on the nightly news. Let the victims speak for themselves. This will never end until America looks square in the face of what the gun culture is doing to ordinary people. It worked to end the Vietnam War and it would work to end all these mass shootings. If my family member were a victim, I would want to see some good come out of the tragedy. I know that there are those that wouldn't want to see the carnage but they do not have to watch the news.

It's time to see the stark reality of what we allow in this country in order to end it. What news outlet will have the courage I wonder?

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:00 PM

1. I think that's what worked to

turn the tide against the Vietnam war.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:00 PM

2. Sadly, No News Outlet Will Have The Courage

I see that as likely as getting gun legislation past the filibuster.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:06 PM

3. I agree, although sometimes it gets out anyway

When I was watching live local coverage of the Boulder shooting they accidentally showed two of the bodies out in front of the store. I don't even know if they were aware they were doing it at the time as they didn't cut away. It took me a second to register that that was what I was seeing as they were panning over the scene behind the guy standing there doing the reporting.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:50 PM

11. Actually the local news here did show the bodies on the

ground. I'm not sure they meant to though.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:08 PM

4. It is past time to expose the horror. IMO we would have had serious legislation after Sandy Hook. nt

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:11 PM

5. I totally agree. I have been a news photographer it's frustrating not to get the real story out.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:27 PM

6. The average American, even the average gun humper, has no idea what these wounds are like...

It's disgraceful how purposely ignorant the public is about this aspect of the issue, and how the media intentionally fosters that ignorance.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:56 PM

7. I think so, too

When I was a kid, I saw footage of the Vietnam War on TV. I especially remember the Buddhist monk set himself on fire. I was just confused, not traumatized.

Just show the public the tiny body parts strewn around Sandyhook Elementary. Show ua the people who died trying to crawl out of the nightclub, store, or any public gathering so that they can see what remains lying in pools of their own blood. How about the cameraman's arm that was shot off by Kyle Rittenhouse?

Just a little of that would go a looooooong way.

Sure, it's brutal. But not nearly as brutal as the situation we have now.

Here's my living will: if I get shot to death or take several hours to die of covid on a ventilator, I want all of it videotaped and put out where everyone can see it. Not the deep web where you can see all kinds of horrible shit. I'm talking the 6:00 news on every channel and the YouTube splash page where it is the first suggestion for you to watch.

Tie every rethug to a chair and hold their eyes open with toothpicks until they vote to protect us.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:35 PM

8. I understand what you are saying.

However, I find myself on a fence. There is the "exploitation" factor, almost using bodies as props, but, I can see the value in it, especially if members of the NRA board and gun-humpers from Congress were immediately whisked to a scene and made to march through it much the same way many Germans were made to walk through the mounds of corpses in various death camps after Germany fell. Some people simply don't have the humanity required to be sympathetic, much less empathetic and having them see, first hand, the carnage, the destruction, and the actual loss of human life, might actually shake some of those assholes awake.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:47 PM

9. I firmly believe this to be true

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:49 PM

10. I agree. Sanitizing it creating a false sense of reality.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:30 PM

12. I wrote to Rachel Maddow and asked her to consider this approach

I have no idea if she will consider it or not but somebody has to start.

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Response to Joe Nation (Original post)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:57 PM

13. K&R

Sanitizing mass shootings has allowed people to say, "How awful!", and then just move on with their day. Their lives. Until the next one, when they will exclaim, "How awful!", once again. And again, and again, and again.

I find it ever so much more disrespectful to think mass shootings are something we have to live with than it is to show the country just what a bullet-mangled body looks like.

Saying it is something we have to just live with is dismissive of the problem.

One of the scariest sights of my childhood was seeing a bullet hole in a man's body. I saw the gun come out. I heard the crack - not even a bang - a cracking sound. And I saw the puckered hole in the mid-lower right side of a man's back, a kidney shot. Looked almost like someone stuck an ice pick into his back and pulled it back out, except the skin didn't pucker outward, it was slightly indented. Bruising around the wound kept getting bigger. The bullet didn't exit.




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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 06:49 PM

14. My younger brother was shot in the abdomen by a 12 gauge shotgun from 6 feet away when he was 18

He lived but the damage from the buckshot was pretty gruesome but apparently that is nothing compared to what an AR-15 can do to the human body.

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Response to Joe Nation (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 25, 2021, 08:13 PM

15. AR-15 rounds ricochet inside the body ripping organs apart.

So what might look like a minor wound on the outside can damage the insides beyond repair. People bleed to death from all the damage even if it doesn't hit a major organ.

I am so sorry about your brother. I'm glad he lived but still...Yikes!

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