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BAIN TOOK DOWN THE AMERICAN FLAG AND PUT UP A CHINESE FLAG @ A formerly AMERICAN PLANT!!! (Original Post) Ecumenist Oct 2012 OP
Do you mean "formerly"? CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #1
Just heard it on PoliticsNation 10 minutes ago... Ecumenist Oct 2012 #3
The word is formerly. Lex Oct 2012 #10
I changed it...thanks... Ecumenist Oct 2012 #12
Link? Fridays Child Oct 2012 #2
Reread my reply to CaliforniaPeggy. I heard it on PoliticsNation with Al Sharpton Ecumenist Oct 2012 #4
Link DonViejo Oct 2012 #7
The city's name is Freeport, but this is still horrible tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #5
Can you imagine if Obama had been involved in a Company that did this awake Oct 2012 #6
I'm more bothered that they made the American workers losing their jobs train the Chinese... porphyrian Oct 2012 #8
I AM TOO but this flag removal was ON AMERICAN SOIL at THAT company in ILLINOIS!! NOT CHINA...eom Ecumenist Oct 2012 #11
...where the business had already been sold to a Chinese company. The American workers were only... porphyrian Oct 2012 #14
The point I'm making is the H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.S.Y of these people...It's like Ecumenist Oct 2012 #15
Yeah, that doesn't change my mind. I think the training their replacements thing is worse. porphyrian Oct 2012 #21
I don't want to come across as salty BUT I AGREE WITH YOU....don't you get it??!!! Ecumenist Oct 2012 #23
Ah, sorry, I'm slow today - sick doggie, no sleep. porphyrian Oct 2012 #26
The Flag replacement makes for a better Photo Op, bvar22 Oct 2012 #17
Oh then, it's alright since we're all so bad? joefree1 Oct 2012 #20
Well, not really the same thing. porphyrian Oct 2012 #24
But it is all part of the plan murpheeslaw Oct 2012 #32
I see that, but it's a failed ploy. porphyrian Oct 2012 #33
China's status as Most Favored Nation predates the Clinton era meow2u3 Oct 2012 #36
A lot of American workers - both white collar and blue collar - have been required to train their... LongTomH Oct 2012 #25
It's just wrong. porphyrian Oct 2012 #29
Sharpton had the AFSCME President Lee Saunders on his show BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #9
Saunders was awesome tonight. blue neen Oct 2012 #22
Another perspectiv exboyfil Oct 2012 #13
This needs to be written ellie Oct 2012 #16
So, since this is happening on Obama's watch... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #18
This should be posted at all the Tea Party sites. Their head willl explode!!! kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #19
I've said this before and I'll say it again: Initech Oct 2012 #27
If we use this just right this could be huge for Obama DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #28
Ed Has It Now !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #30
This Should Be The #1 Story On EVERY News Outlet!! Guitarzz Oct 2012 #31
I think the claim that they put up a Chinese flag is wrong. I've already posted replies about highplainsdem Oct 2012 #34
Link to the earlier topic. My reply there has the link to the Daily Kos story about a protester highplainsdem Oct 2012 #35

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
3. Just heard it on PoliticsNation 10 minutes ago...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

Check out online repeat of the PoliticsNation, you'll hear it for yourself.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
5. The city's name is Freeport, but this is still horrible
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:55 PM
Oct 2012

Mitt may no longer be the CEO of Bain, but he's a major shareholder, he can influence their decisions and he probably approved this plan. Is this Mittstake's October Surprise?

I found an article through Google:
http://rockrivertimes.com/2012/10/12/french-samsonite-employees-laid-off-by-bain-join-sensata-workers-at-%E2%80%98bainport%E2%80%99-oct-13/

awake

(3,226 posts)
6. Can you imagine if Obama had been involved in a Company that did this
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:57 PM
Oct 2012

The M$M would run this as there top story. Call your local TV station and ask why they did not cover it.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
8. I'm more bothered that they made the American workers losing their jobs train the Chinese...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

...workers getting them. That's like making someone dig their own grave. Reprehensible. The flag thing is really only offensive because Romney keeps lying about getting "tough on China" while his buddies at Bain are outsourcing American jobs to them. I'm sure American companies in China fly American flags; it the country of the company.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. I AM TOO but this flag removal was ON AMERICAN SOIL at THAT company in ILLINOIS!! NOT CHINA...eom
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

The claim to be such patriots and they do this "ish to Americans ON AMERICAN SOIL!! BIG DIFFERENCE!!

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
14. ...where the business had already been sold to a Chinese company. The American workers were only...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:10 PM
Oct 2012

...there to train their replacements. Getting too wound up about the flag thing seems overly nationalist and silly to me. The real offense was what was done to the American workers.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
15. The point I'm making is the H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.S.Y of these people...It's like
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:15 PM
Oct 2012

poking their fingers into the eyes are these workers and showing their true face to the people they claim to represent. THAT'S the point, Porphyrian..That's the point.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
21. Yeah, that doesn't change my mind. I think the training their replacements thing is worse.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

You're allowed to believe whatever you'd like, though.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
23. I don't want to come across as salty BUT I AGREE WITH YOU....don't you get it??!!!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

I am simply making the point that they cry about putting people in prison for burning the flag and yet this was done ON AMERICAN SOIL and it WAS NOT A CONSULATE or EMBASSY...

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
26. Ah, sorry, I'm slow today - sick doggie, no sleep.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:52 PM
Oct 2012

They are hypocrites and they have absolutely no qualms about lying and cheating to get their way as long as no one dares to point it out.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
17. The Flag replacement makes for a better Photo Op,
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

...and a rallying symbol.

The only problem is that the Democratic Party is no better when it comes to selling out American Jobs.
It was Bill Clinton and the "Centrist" Democrats in conjunction WITH The Republicans who established the MFN (Most Favored Nation Trade Status) with Communist China in the 90s.
It has been accelerating downhill since then.

joefree1

(4,901 posts)
20. Oh then, it's alright since we're all so bad?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

No it's not. Barack is President now and he's running against Rmoney. If you think that Barack is as bad as Romney then you're in the wrong group.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
24. Well, not really the same thing.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:50 PM
Oct 2012

Bain is the company Romney used to work for (and that he seems to still be connected to, at least with regards to how and where he hides his wealth from taxes) that buys out companies, "harvests" the capital from them and sells them off before they go under. Clinton didn't work with such a company or loot American companies directly, to my knowledge, though he did throw bones to corporations and Blue Dogs, and he started the DLC, whose members and sympathizers attacked anyone left of center not too many elections ago. I get where you're going with it, but the Clinton's have all redeemed themselves with me through their actions of late, so I'm not complaining about them.

murpheeslaw

(110 posts)
32. But it is all part of the plan
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

Your not looking at the long game. If more people are out of work the unemployment numbers go up and RMoney gets to use the "Unemployment is over 8%" again meme in his stump speeches. Look for MORE jobs to be outsourced to get RMoney elected.

Heart sick and only a little sarcastic

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
33. I see that, but it's a failed ploy.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:10 PM
Oct 2012

Despite their best efforts, UE numbers are down further today. I guess it sucks to lose like them.

meow2u3

(24,772 posts)
36. China's status as Most Favored Nation predates the Clinton era
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

Nixon started it by visiting China with his "ping pong diplomacy." HE made China Most Favored Nation.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
25. A lot of American workers - both white collar and blue collar - have been required to train their...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:50 PM
Oct 2012

....replacements from India or China! I was lucky enough not to have that humiliation added to being 'downsized.'

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
29. It's just wrong.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:57 PM
Oct 2012

If I owned a company that wanted to do this, and I wouldn't, I would instead have the outgoing employees write a manual or something. People deserve some fucking dignity.

BumRushDaShow

(129,426 posts)
9. Sharpton had the AFSCME President Lee Saunders on his show
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

and he was LIVID about what is happening in Illinois. They are trying to get this info out there about this flag mess.

blue neen

(12,328 posts)
22. Saunders was awesome tonight.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:42 PM
Oct 2012

He was livid. We should all be livid.

This story needs to pick up steam, because every American needs to know the horrible things that Mitt Romney has done to this country.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
13. Another perspectiv
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:10 PM
Oct 2012

I was in Germany at one of my company's plants. They had a flag display which showed the EU and German flag in an inferior position to the corporate flag. I wish I had a camera to take a picture. I understand what my company was communicating (we are a large multinational with a worldwide presence, but, if I was a German citizen, I would be offended). I would also think that Germany would fly its national flag first and the EU flag second, but that is their business (kind of the reverse of our state/federal flags).

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
18. So, since this is happening on Obama's watch...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
Oct 2012

Is Romney going to blame Obama for another factory closure?

Initech

(100,100 posts)
27. I've said this before and I'll say it again:
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

If corporations are people, equity firms are serial killers. Now where's a Dexter Morgan for these psychos when you need them?

highplainsdem

(49,033 posts)
34. I think the claim that they put up a Chinese flag is wrong. I've already posted replies about
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012

this in two other topics on this story, in LBN and GD.

A Chinese flag was put up across the street from the Freeport Sensata plant, but according to a Daily Kos story, it was brought in by a protester, and in a YouTube video from the Steelworkers, you can see that flag about a minute and a half into the video -- the flag is next to some protest signs.

Later in the same video, about three and a half minutes in, they're talking about the Sensata plants in China, and they show those plants, which do have the Chinese flag flying -- on Chinese soil.

I think what's happened is that people confused the video images of the Chinese plants with the plant in Freeport.

As I've said elsewhere, it's bad enough that they took down the US flag for a time.

Let's not weaken this story with a claim that isn't true.

highplainsdem

(49,033 posts)
35. Link to the earlier topic. My reply there has the link to the Daily Kos story about a protester
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:19 PM
Oct 2012

bringing a Chinese flag, and other people there posted the Steelworkers video that shows both the Chinese flag used in the protests and -- two minutes later -- the Chinese flag showing over Sensata plants in China.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021526578

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