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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:35 AM Apr 2021

The fourth wave is here


4 hours ago - Health

Sam Baker, Andrew Witherspoon



Coronavirus infections are on the rise yet again, all across the U.S.

The big picture: America may be at the beginning of a fourth wave in the pandemic. It will almost certainly be far less deadly than the previous three, but this persistent failure to contain the virus has real consequences, and will only make it harder to put COVID-19 behind us.

By the numbers: On average, roughly 63,000 Americans per day were diagnosed with coronavirus infections over the past week. That’s a 17% increase from the week before, and echoes the rising caseloads of the pandemic’s second wave last summer.

Average daily caseloads increased over the past week in 25 states. The biggest spikes were in Michigan and New York.


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https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-cases-infections-hospital-variants-d0f5850c-6098-431c-b38c-55b82cce2b8c.html
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The fourth wave is here (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
Michigan is giving COVID the upper hand IronLionZion Apr 2021 #1
It isn't just Michigan where thats happening jcgoldie Apr 2021 #2
Deplorables will be deplorable IronLionZion Apr 2021 #3
:) Yes, there is an end in sight. We know that now because Hortensis Apr 2021 #22
I hope so IronLionZion Apr 2021 #23
It'd be a huge break for mankind even if vaccinations stopped tomorrow. Hortensis Apr 2021 #25
Maybe not, but we have a boatload of uneducated rednecks in Michigan. llmart Apr 2021 #35
According to my Michigan nephew, luvtheGWN Apr 2021 #4
they've been saying that for a while... LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #6
And they're using the increase as proof IronLionZion Apr 2021 #8
Stupid is as stupid does. calimary Apr 2021 #15
Well, after a couple of months or so, most infections and virtually Hortensis Apr 2021 #24
If Michigan reaches 80% I'll be surprised. llmart Apr 2021 #36
I want to Bang my head too LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #19
To be fair, our Dem governor has relaxed restrictions over the last month Cal Carpenter Apr 2021 #17
wow-- that's messed up LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #20
WTF, Michigan and New York?!?! LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #5
Nearly 100% of increase in MI are of those who have ...not... been vaccinated (link) uponit7771 Apr 2021 #13
the vaccines are AMAZING LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #21
+1, praying for that cure for cancer soon. The mRNA tech is some space age stuff uponit7771 Apr 2021 #27
Erie County (Buffalo) executive wnylib Apr 2021 #37
I'm hoping the 4th wave crashes soon onto the seawall of vaccination LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #7
Looks like it will, 53% increase in MI few to none are vaccinated people uponit7771 Apr 2021 #28
a bright spot in this mess LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #32
Yes, I watch the map linked below - it is worsening for sure NewHendoLib Apr 2021 #9
One has to wonder how much worse it would be with no vaccine TeslaNova Apr 2021 #10
Meanwhile DownriverDem Apr 2021 #11
K&R, nearly 100% increase are of those who have ***NOT*** been vaccinated in MI uponit7771 Apr 2021 #12
In some parts of MI the vaccine is impossible to get even if you qualify Cal Carpenter Apr 2021 #18
Is she the one the MAGA Terrorist tried to kidnap before? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #29
Yes and the GOP has basically stripped her of her powers nt maryellen99 Apr 2021 #30
Ah, so this isn't 100% her calling. They are so anti democracy its horrible, our union is going to.. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #31
Genesee County is nearly impossible to get an appointment Casandia Apr 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Casandia Apr 2021 #34
Every wave has been the public's collective failure. ancianita Apr 2021 #14
I live in Hawaii pandr32 Apr 2021 #16
I don't think the 1st wave ever stopped ... aggiesal Apr 2021 #26

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
1. Michigan is giving COVID the upper hand
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:16 AM
Apr 2021

MAGAts up there are refusing to follow the governor's guidelines and claiming the increased cases in red counties is proof the governor's guidelines don't work.

Here in DC, we can always tell who is a Trumpster here for a protest, because they'll be indoors maskless in bars and restaurants. Local liberals will sit outdoors or get takeout and wear masks.

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
3. Deplorables will be deplorable
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:29 AM
Apr 2021

keeping America number 1 in COVID cases this whole time with no end in sight.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. :) Yes, there is an end in sight. We know that now because
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:35 PM
Apr 2021

almost no vaccinated people can become infected and spread it. The lack of hosts means the virus dies down dramatically, to a point that we can stomp it out where it does pop up among those not immune.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. It'd be a huge break for mankind even if vaccinations stopped tomorrow.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:49 PM
Apr 2021

And patience as you say, but we're so fortunate in the U.S. that all adults who want to be vaccinated will be before long.

Estimating 80% of all adults fully vaccinated by the end of June and continuing, but that could be higher. That doesn't include those who will have had just their first shot, but that confers 80% immunity.


llmart

(15,555 posts)
35. Maybe not, but we have a boatload of uneducated rednecks in Michigan.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:55 PM
Apr 2021

I see them everywhere in the northern part of my county. They think they're proving something by not following guidelines. They're actually proud of their stupidity.

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
8. And they're using the increase as proof
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:20 AM
Apr 2021

A lot of maskholes have these anecdotes where they know of someone who wore masks and got COVID, so that means masks cause COVID.

calimary

(81,519 posts)
15. Stupid is as stupid does.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:19 PM
Apr 2021

Only problem, the Stupid isn’t confine-able. It has an adverse impact on us good guys who are wearing masks, keeping our distance, and cooperating by following the guidance of the medical experts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Well, after a couple of months or so, most infections and virtually
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:40 PM
Apr 2021

all deaths will be among the unvaccinated. Studies of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines show 90% of those vaccinated don't become infected (i.e., hosts for the virus) so can't spread it.

Reportedly at this rate over 80% of adults should be vaccinated by July 4.

llmart

(15,555 posts)
36. If Michigan reaches 80% I'll be surprised.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:57 PM
Apr 2021

I'm starting to wonder why someone like me who is fully immunized should even care about my "fellow Michigander" who refused throughout this pandemic to follow the orders.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
17. To be fair, our Dem governor has relaxed restrictions over the last month
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:56 PM
Apr 2021

and says she has no plans to add more restrictions. Obviously if people refuse to follow them even when they are in place, there's not much she can do to change that, but I'm quite disturbed by her recent statements. Like she's given up.

I'm in a very blue county in Michigan. We aren't spiking the way some of the rural counties are, but it's not just MAGAts who are making things worse at this point, I can tell you that for sure.

(Please know that i am not an apologist for MAGAts, lol, I hope this post doesn't come across this way. I'm just horrified at what's going on around me, and scared... our vaccines are not going smoothly - most people in my age group (just under 50) are driving down to Ohio to get vaccinated. I don't have that luxury so I'm just waiting.... and waiting... for my turn, and hoping that the supply is here when I qualify next week...)

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
13. Nearly 100% of increase in MI are of those who have ...not... been vaccinated (link)
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:08 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15283049

this says a lot to me about the vaccinations even though the second one put me under the weather for a day or two.

LymphocyteLover

(5,657 posts)
21. the vaccines are AMAZING
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:21 PM
Apr 2021

they will save us, and get us out of this mess-- as long as enough people get them!

wnylib

(21,631 posts)
37. Erie County (Buffalo) executive
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 06:54 PM
Apr 2021

Mark Poloncarz announced in a press conferencr yesterday that the county increase is coming primarily from younger people. Older ones are getting vaccinated and their positive numbers are going down. Younger ones are going on spring breaks, or partying locally. Plus, during the lull when cases were going down in February, Cuomo relaxed some restrictions. Various businesses went to court to force their right to be open and won.

Then we had a couple of unusually beautiful and warm weeks in March. People who had been cooped up for the winter couldn't wait to get out and about.

Vaccinated older people, good weather, stimulus checks, and restrictionns being eased up all added up to people acting like the pandemic is over. Cabin fever snd pandemic fatigue.

Erie county's positive rate is up to 8% now. And nobody is listening to the warnings.

TeslaNova

(275 posts)
10. One has to wonder how much worse it would be with no vaccine
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:39 AM
Apr 2021

So far as of March 30th 16.1% of the entire US population is fully vaccinated. I have no stats on how many have had the first vaccination but I have to guess it's at least twice that, probably more. So at least 1/3 of the population has at least been partially vaccinated. I would think without any vaccine we most likely would be in the midst of the worst wave.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
11. Meanwhile
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:42 AM
Apr 2021

Michigan repubs are doing all they can to take away the Strong Lady from Michigan's power. Gov Whitmer went through the MI Health Department for Covid rules then. She is pushing vaccinations now.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
18. In some parts of MI the vaccine is impossible to get even if you qualify
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:03 PM
Apr 2021

People in my county are driving 3 hours across the state, or down to Ohio.

And our governor (DEM, btw) says she has no plans to increase restrictions on businesses again. She recently relaxed restaurant, theater, and stadium restrictions. And look at us now?

It's so fucked.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
31. Ah, so this isn't 100% her calling. They are so anti democracy its horrible, our union is going to..
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 02:49 PM
Apr 2021

... be democracy in name only and then they wont care about that either if HR1 isn't passed.

Casandia

(658 posts)
33. Genesee County is nearly impossible to get an appointment
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 03:26 PM
Apr 2021

I finally got the vaccine because I know a township trustee that got me an appointment. I was never contacted by the Health dept, or was able to get an appt. with the pharmacies online. IWe also tried to get an appointment for Ford Field in Detroit. NOTHING

I was finally able to get my husband an appointment for his 1st shot in a different county 45 minutes away for the middle of April. We feel so lucky!

Now younger people are eligible for the vaccine....but so many retired people are still waiting their turn...

Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #18)

pandr32

(11,624 posts)
16. I live in Hawaii
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:21 PM
Apr 2021

...and since they opened back up to tourists the numbers are increasing. The governor said we could open up to tourists safely. I wonder what he says now.
As we go out for necessary business and chores only we see tourists everywhere--many with their masks off. Social distancing seems to be a thing of the past, too.

aggiesal

(8,935 posts)
26. I don't think the 1st wave ever stopped ...
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 01:53 PM
Apr 2021

This is just a long first wave.

I would consider a first wave stopped, when we no longer need a mask mandate, then a cases increase to where we need another mask mandate. This has not happened.

Here is the graph of the 1918 Flu in the US.

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