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Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:14 PM Jan 2012

One can only hope Romney gets the nomination

If Mitt Romney wins the R nomination Obama will win by a landslide. It is not exactly fair, but then again neither are the Republicans. Romney will lose almost soley based on his religion. There is far too broad a spectrum of religious right voters that would NEVER vote for a Mormon. Sorry mitt, I know it sucks, but look at the bigots you've aligned yourself with.

Mitt Romney, the stay home canindate.

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One can only hope Romney gets the nomination (Original Post) Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 OP
I think with Independents it will have more to do with him being a Vulture Capitalist catbyte Jan 2012 #1
Romney would offer the biggest challenge to Obama. athenasatanjesus Jan 2012 #2
I think Romney will lose to Obama but not because he is a Morman. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #3
I can't imagine any of them winning any debates vs. Obama. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #4
Assuming the people judging these debates are fair and critical minded jurors. athenasatanjesus Jan 2012 #5
I think many of the religious right may vote for a Mormon subterranean Jan 2012 #6
Talk about your quintessential Repuke Hobson's choice: having to coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #19
Mitt, the jobs cremator, will perfectly represent today's Republican Party. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #7
Romney would be a "good" nominee for Obama to run against for other reasons IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #8
I think there will be an inertia with Evangelicals for Mitt to overcome TlalocW Jan 2012 #9
I think you exaggerate the effect. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #10
The *religious* right will vote for Romney because they hate the President more. I don't think SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #11
I can think of 6 households that have already declared this Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #12
If that was truly the case, then he wouldn't be going into SC with the kind of lead he has. SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #13
He may have a lead Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #14
Agreed (nt) SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #16
Be careful about what you hope for. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #15
I think picketing in favor of a draft he was exempt from Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #17
Romney said on film, "I like to be able to fire people". If Obama's campaign coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #18

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
1. I think with Independents it will have more to do with him being a Vulture Capitalist
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jan 2012

and being too arrogant and clueless to not release his tax returns.

athenasatanjesus

(859 posts)
2. Romney would offer the biggest challenge to Obama.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jan 2012

The right wing will still vote for him out of hate for Obama,and because of the religious rights criticism of Romney the illusion of him being moderate will get many centrist votes,also once he gets the nomination the MSM will stop really criticizing him with his most fervent republican critics changing their mind about him.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
3. I think Romney will lose to Obama but not because he is a Morman.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jan 2012

A few evangelicals might balk but most would swallow hard and vote for Mitt if they thought he really was with them on social issues and heath care and understood their economic situation. But there are enough doubts in all three areas to curb what enthusiasm they might otherwise have.

athenasatanjesus

(859 posts)
5. Assuming the people judging these debates are fair and critical minded jurors.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jan 2012

Republicans almost never win debates against democrats,yet they still somehow can win in the court of public opinion half the time.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
6. I think many of the religious right may vote for a Mormon
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jan 2012

just because they hate Obama more. They will vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
19. Talk about your quintessential Repuke Hobson's choice: having to
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jan 2012

decide between a Satanist (the Mormon Romney) or a n****r (Obama).

Psychology professors will be able to use this to illustrate the principle of 'cognitive dissonance' for the next 100 years.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
7. Mitt, the jobs cremator, will perfectly represent today's Republican Party.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jan 2012

He has even surprised me at his ability to pathologically lie about Obama's record and his own record.

It's always principal over principle with this guy. His smarmy, flawed recitation of America the Beautiful, not withstanding, he is just another empty suit that wants to exploit government for the interests of the 1%.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
8. Romney would be a "good" nominee for Obama to run against for other reasons IMHO
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jan 2012

His Mormonism (which should be off the table on our side in terms of an "issue&quot might be a problem among GOP voters (i.e. fundies) but I think that the larger problem for him and the GOP is that, given that this election will turn largely on the economy and which candidate can best manage/repair it. As such, I think that Mitt will come off looking like the living embodiment of the 1% while Obama comes off MUCH more credibly as part of the 99% Plus, there is that uncertainty about where Romney stands, specifically is he going to be able to credibly place himself far enough to the right to keep the conservatives/teabaggers but not so far to the right to keep the indies and "moderates"? IMHO Romney will have a MUCH more difficult job convincing people that he deserves to be elected POTUS than Obama does convincing people that he should be allowed to keep his job as POTUS for another four years. The only other candidate that could conceivably do better against Obama is Huntsman but it's all but certain that he won't win the nomination for a number of reasons. Aside from their fevered delusions, all of the other GOPers are simply non-starters against Obama.

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
9. I think there will be an inertia with Evangelicals for Mitt to overcome
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jan 2012

Let's face it, these people still cling to the lie that the President isn't a Christian, and Mormonism has been defined as a cult since they first started Sunday School. Their thinking will be, "My choice is between a Muslim and a Mormon? Why bother?" Hopefully, that attitude will keep a lot of them home.

TlalocW

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
10. I think you exaggerate the effect.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jan 2012

The fundamentalists now have 10 months to get over their anti-Mormon superstitions, which you can be certain are much weaker than their anti-Obama hallucinations. I'm pretty sure their demographics are on the decline, but as long as they're a factor, the fundamentalists will vote faithfully for the conservative Republican white guy.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
11. The *religious* right will vote for Romney because they hate the President more. I don't think
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 01:34 PM
Jan 2012

you've correctly gauged their intentions on this one.

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
12. I can think of 6 households that have already declared this
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jan 2012

The evangelicals I know will not ever vote for a Mormon, even if he was running against a satanist. They will be staying home this election

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
13. If that was truly the case, then he wouldn't be going into SC with the kind of lead he has.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jan 2012

The religious right folks that I know have told me that they would vote for the Devil himself before voting for President Obama. They've also told me that they won't be sitting this one out. I guess we'll have to see how he polls closer to the election and see who is right.

Either way, we can't just sit around hoping the President wins. It's time to get out the vote and get the message out.

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
14. He may have a lead
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jan 2012

But that only means that the religious right is split up amongst the other candidates (IMO)- and those combined could make a big difference come election time. But as you said- only time will tell.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. I think picketing in favor of a draft he was exempt from
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jan 2012

is going to keep him from reaching the "Commander In Chief" threshold for most swing voters.



Put that story into a commercial and at the end ask if he is the one you want commanding our troops. I think most any reasonable person will say "no".

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
18. Romney said on film, "I like to be able to fire people". If Obama's campaign
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:00 AM
Jan 2012

can't use that quote to run the table on elections for Prez, House and Senate, one can start building a prima facie case that the Dems don't deserve to hold power.

Romney has handed Obama re-electon on a silver platter. It's a campaign ad that will write itself.

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