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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Should The Penalty Be For Lying About Being Vaccinated Or Holding Counterfeit Cards?
Thoughts?
I read an OP about a DU user saying her RWNJ in laws were saying they were vaccinated to travel, and she knew they were anti-vaxxers.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)"cost us all."
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Public health violations, fraud, counterfeiting, forgery, trespassing if they go in somewhere they weren't entitled, reckless endangerment. NO fly list. And fines. Big, fat, non-dismissible fines. These people care about money over people. Hit 'em where it hurts.
We have laws. Apply them.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)by 5 years in prison. Significantly, forgery of the seal of the CDC in the upper right hand corner of the vaccination card is how they can nail the perpetrator. FBI has already issued a warning on this.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)It will be really helpful.
jimfields33
(15,948 posts)Since federal government is not doing passports, I think they will stay out of this.
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)and then specific lot #(s), dates given, and clinic/location. I'm not sure what would actually constitute a passport (database?) -- but what I have does appear to be approved by the feds. And this is what I will be producing when I go to the airport (or whomever is requiring) -- I think?
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...it is documentation for you and your doctor.
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)And where will it be required? Are we discussing a hypothetical document? -- and if so, how can we possibly be discussing 'counterfeits?'
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)The platform is intended to fast-track the reopening of sports arenas, music venues, restaurants and other businesses with capacity limitations due to Covid-19 in accordance with New York State Department of Health guidelines.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/03/27/new-york-just-launched-a-digital-vaccine-pass-to-restart-concerts-sports-events-and-other-activities/?sh=29f99aa85b4d
stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)Unfortunately that doesn't apply here -- and, in any event, I would prefer to wait for a federal option. But -- good information -- and it does seem an intelligent response.
(now what do we do with all the anti-vaccers?)
jimfields33
(15,948 posts)Mines in the garage somewhere. Once they start wanting to see it, Ill take it with me. I did the picture so I have that too. Hopefully most people wont need to be arrested as they will or did get the vaccine.
DBoon
(22,397 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)I met a man at work years ago who was HIV positive, and he told me he felt no compunction to tell anyone his health status. No idea what happened to him. He seemed to feel that it would be his sex partners fault if they didnt take precautions. He was so skeevy that I couldnt imagine ANYONE having sex with him, but I guess they did. I kept a distance from him. He was pure scum.
DBoon
(22,397 posts)... be prosecuted.
Dr. Strange
(25,923 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Or all 3 at the same time.
That'll scare 'em straight.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The Johnson & Johnson would be best because you wouldn't have to worry about getting them back for their second doses.
Oh, and make sure they know we added extra tracking chips to the shots they're getting, just to make sure.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)under-incarceration problem, and we know we have some underused concentration facilities in TX, etc.
Seriously, occurs to me that affordable quick tests are available to check for antibodies. If it were to become enough of a problem, perhaps testing would become required in certain circumstances, like being allowed to board a cruise ship.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)With no opt out possible.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)Fuck these anti-vaxxer assholes if they wanna cheat on their test.
Johonny
(20,888 posts)Was there any penalty for not wearing a mask in most places in the US?
etc...
The pandemic rules and laws have to data had very little teeth.
Even if they wanted to enforce it, like the vaccine queues you'd likely see it only enforced on the lower class. I would quickly become another set of laws to harass minorities.