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newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 09:32 PM Apr 2021

Manchin

Here's the weird thing. The general rule with voting thoughts in America usually is if its 2 candidates. With one extreme the other centrist the voters will just go with the extreme. In this case, Manchin as a repub light, against some right winger. Right wingers and independents will just vote for the full blown candidate.

My point is, he's being this way because he's trying to stay in office. The truth is, he might be hurting his chances because of his repub light routine.

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Manchin (Original Post) newdayneeded Apr 2021 OP
Was or was not Robert Byrd a liberal? Frasier Balzov Apr 2021 #1
United Coal Miners Unions? Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #2

Frasier Balzov

(2,649 posts)
1. Was or was not Robert Byrd a liberal?
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:43 PM
Apr 2021

Was he deemed acceptable to the people of West Virginia all those years because he had burnished his credentials much earlier as a segregationist?

Did the voters abide him because he brought home the bacon to WV?

What reliable foothold did Byrd have which Manchin appears to so tenuously rest upon?

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
2. United Coal Miners Unions?
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 11:24 PM
Apr 2021

Manchin has Byrd's seat.

WV used to be a hard core union state, which is why coal mining paid so well for the area. And got medical coverage for Black lung.

West Virginia is an unusual state. Even Charleston and Parkersburg and Beckley and Morgantown are still rural.

If Biden's union emphasis pays off, and he undoes the 40year Reagan led attack on unions, we'll see wages rise and working conditions improve. Highest quality of life correlated to Union jobs.

Wasn't the unions that moved jobs to Mexico, it was corporations taking advantage of tax policy allowing them to do so.

Republicans have been playing a much, much longer game than the democrats ever have. Grievances back to the New Deal. Elephants never forget, and their entire governing philosophy is retribution.

Manchin is what we have to work with. Jim Justice, Dem turned GOP, wants that seat. No.

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