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DBoon

(22,397 posts)
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:44 AM Apr 2021

LAT: The Tucker Carlson mystery -- how does his show survive without major advertisers?

Carlson is the undisputed star of Fox News Channel. In the April Nielsen ratings he trounced all other cable news programming, with an average audience of more than 3 million viewers. His Tucker Carlson Tonight also finished first in the sought-after 25-54 age segment, averaging 523,000 viewers.

Yet the advertising lineup of Carlson’s show displays virtually no class at all. Judging from my viewing of the program on a couple of recent evenings, it comprises one advertiser that has attracted a regulatory complaint, another dinged for alleged ineffectiveness, a few others selling products for geriatrics that one would more expect to see more on daytime TV or in predawn hours, and a few other minor consumer products.

...

He also could be a key to an effort by Fox News to retain its grip on a right-wing, low-information audience in the face of challenges by outfits such as OAN, even farther to the right.

Lachlan Murdoch, to be fair, says he doesn’t worry about those rivals on the right. America is a center-right country, he told Wall Street analysts in February. “We don’t need to go further right,” he said. “All our significant competitors are to the far left.” Yet does Carlson’s veer into the far-right fever swamp really fit that strategy?


https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-30/tucker-carlson-major-advertisers
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LAT: The Tucker Carlson mystery -- how does his show survive without major advertisers? (Original Post) DBoon Apr 2021 OP
The answer is his show is an investment in disinformation... Hugin Apr 2021 #1
+1 crickets Apr 2021 #24
Exactly. The AM Hate Radio stations in my area don't even run commercials. Midnight Writer Apr 2021 #28
Fox News does not rely on advertising Mysterian Apr 2021 #2
Information Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #3
Good thing you cut off that screenshot before the Clinton and Qanon stuff in that article Effete Snob Apr 2021 #8
FYI Metatron Apr 2021 #15
The way the post is presented... Effete Snob Apr 2021 #17
Did not see that. Thanks. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #16
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #18
It's not my screen. It's a Google image. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #21
You swapped out the image in your post Effete Snob Apr 2021 #31
Yes, it's the one I thought I originally pasted. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #32
So you posted it. Kingofalldems Apr 2021 #22
Okay so just to be clear Effete Snob Apr 2021 #30
Read reply 32 and look at the original picture again. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #33
I'm interested in how you found the original picture Effete Snob May 2021 #34
Google search. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #35
Yes Effete Snob May 2021 #36
Rupert Murdoch Ghislaine Maxwell works for me. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #37
Fox news does not depend ln ads. Its cable biz is mainly supported by... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #4
Exactly, and that shit has to end. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #26
I don't watch Faux I thought Hannity was the doc03 Apr 2021 #5
I think he was, PatSeg Apr 2021 #10
Same way RightWing propaganda generator Moonie Times does and blm Apr 2021 #6
"All our significant competitors are to the far left." hibbing Apr 2021 #7
I know PatSeg Apr 2021 #11
Tucker won't be gone until the Murdochs (Pere & Fils) Golden Raisin Apr 2021 #9
Lachlan Murdoch is full of shite. spanone Apr 2021 #12
Putin? SheltieLover Apr 2021 #13
Tucker Carlson is hands down the biggest draw on that channel inwiththenew Apr 2021 #14
Yup TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #20
$1.9 billion from cable fees in the last six months of 2020 EleanorR Apr 2021 #19
I'm looking forward to a la carte pricing MurrayDelph Apr 2021 #23
Never happen, as much as we all would like it. Local cable company looked at what sports... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #29
This is it edhopper May 2021 #38
It isn't a mystery dsc Apr 2021 #25
also, as a Swanson TV dinner heir, he could probably payroll the production himself librechik Apr 2021 #27
thread on this... Takket May 2021 #39

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
1. The answer is his show is an investment in disinformation...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:47 AM
Apr 2021

The Reich Wing is willing to make to push their message.

Exactly like AM talk radio.

Pure propaganda.

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
28. Exactly. The AM Hate Radio stations in my area don't even run commercials.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 02:43 PM
Apr 2021

The idea that conservatives dominate the AM airwave because of market forces is a lie.

Someone is paying these stations to run these programs, and they are not advertisers. I would love to see those someones exposed.

Mysterian

(4,594 posts)
2. Fox News does not rely on advertising
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:48 AM
Apr 2021

It is funded by billionaire fascists who wish to install a dictatorship in the USA.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
8. Good thing you cut off that screenshot before the Clinton and Qanon stuff in that article
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:02 AM
Apr 2021

Is there a rule at DU about posting Qanon stuff, or is it okay?

The screenshotted excerpt above intentionally does not provide a link to the source of the article, which you can find by googling long text strings in quotes.

The article comes from here:

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2019/08/13/was-rupert-murdoch-involved-in-the-jeffrey-epstein-paedophile-scandal-given-his-details-were-in-epsteins-black-book/

It continues:

"Jeffrey Epstein was a well-known paedophile who was friends with both US President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton. Both Trump and Clinton have a long list of women who have accused them of sexual assault and rape."

And then goes into the secret global worldwide pedophile ring of powerful people.

Metatron

(1,258 posts)
15. FYI
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:38 AM
Apr 2021

You can click the Alert Abuse link at the bottom of a post, if you believe it violates a rule. Welcome to DU!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
17. The way the post is presented...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:52 AM
Apr 2021

...is of an unsourced screenshot which cuts off the swerve into Qanon land.

I don't know if that is "abuse", but it seems intentionally designed to avoid identifying the source or where the rest of the article goes.

Qanon promoters tailor their approach to their audience.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
16. Did not see that. Thanks.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:45 AM
Apr 2021

Don’t care much for those who were in Epstein’s orbit, no matter their party or nationality. And I’ve written about that for years.


Three Big Pols Who Won't Miss Jeffrey Epstein.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212387641


Let's add Rudy GIULIANI to the list of pols who won't miss Jeffrey Epstein.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=352446&year=2019&month=8


Let's add Kenneth STARR to list...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12388595


Jimmy Savile wasn't mentioned much by America's MSM

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12388660


His Honor may not be the worst on the Dixie Mafia bench. John D ''Roy'' Atchison is a name to know.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5397265

Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #16)

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
31. You swapped out the image in your post
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 05:53 PM
Apr 2021

The image that is there now is not the one you posted and to which I replied.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
32. Yes, it's the one I thought I originally pasted.
Sat May 1, 2021, 08:45 AM
May 2021

Here’s where I posted it in July 2020:

Amazing what belief can do.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13826686

Here’s what Google turned up when I searched the other day, the one you now miss:



Don’t know why you made a big deal of it.

So, do you have anything to say about the subject of my post, the long-standing relationship of Rupert Murdoch and Ghislaine Maxwell?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
30. Okay so just to be clear
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 05:52 PM
Apr 2021

It's okay to use Qanon-promoting sources, as long as one only quotes the part that doesn't give it away. Do I have that right?

Edit: there was a different image there when I responded. The post was edited so the poster could deny what was there originally.

Edit Edit: Look at the "original version" in the edit history of the post. I'm guessing you are replying to the updated version of the thread, which is different than what I was replying to.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
33. Read reply 32 and look at the original picture again.
Sat May 1, 2021, 08:57 AM
May 2021

So you object to a picture.

I change the picture.

Now you object to my changing the picture.


 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
34. I'm interested in how you found the original picture
Sat May 1, 2021, 09:09 AM
May 2021

It’s from an Imgur account, so it’s not as if it ran in a news article that would be highly ranked in a search. It’s a picture of part of an article from a site about a global ring of pedophiles.

I’d like to re-create the search you used to find it. What search terms did you use in Google images?

Also, the original one had text from the article and your post was headed “information”.

So to make sure I understand you, the “information” was simply intended to be the picture of the two of them, because any time there is a picture of two people it means that they are deeply involved in something.

Do I understand you correctly?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
36. Yes
Sat May 1, 2021, 09:11 AM
May 2021

What are the search terms that provide that picture as a result.

I’ve tried a bunch of different keyword combinations, and that original screencap doesn’t come up.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. Fox news does not depend ln ads. Its cable biz is mainly supported by...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:53 AM
Apr 2021

cable charges and sports. Fox news could almost be considered a loss leader.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
10. I think he was,
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:07 AM
Apr 2021

but apparently even Hannity wasn't quite crazy enough. Tucker seems to get more extreme all the time. It would seem he would end up self-destructing eventually. Well, one would hope anyway.

blm

(113,094 posts)
6. Same way RightWing propaganda generator Moonie Times does and
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:59 AM
Apr 2021

has since the early 80s....propped up by wealthy, antiAmerican fascists intent on destroying democracy in the US. Add that to the cable fees paid by consumers and you have one helluva propaganda machine.

The Korean cult leader and the Australian extortionist knew exactly what they intended in the 80s and 90s, and they succeeded in gaining control over an entire political party.

hibbing

(10,109 posts)
7. "All our significant competitors are to the far left."
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:01 AM
Apr 2021

Hmmm... those must not be available in my cable line up because I certainly can't find any far left "news" channels.

Peace

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
11. I know
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:09 AM
Apr 2021

I've been looking for those "far left news channels" for years and still haven't found them.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
14. Tucker Carlson is hands down the biggest draw on that channel
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:36 AM
Apr 2021

If they lost him they would hemorrhage viewers to other right wing outlets. He's probably the only thing keeping a good chunk of Fox's viewers around. Fox know this so even if they can't get advertisers during his time slot they can make up it up during less controversial time slots.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
20. Yup
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

Tucker is where the average RW'r is at. If he were gone, they would just seek out the kooks on OAN and Newsmax.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
19. $1.9 billion from cable fees in the last six months of 2020
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:58 AM
Apr 2021

Cable fees and propaganda keep murdoch's coffers full.

Then there are the economics of Fox as a cable offering. The network earns far more in fees from cable operators carrying its content than from advertising — $1.9 billion from cable fees in the last six months of 2020, according to its financial disclosures, compared with $740 million from advertising.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
29. Never happen, as much as we all would like it. Local cable company looked at what sports...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 04:01 PM
Apr 2021

channels were charging, and knew it sports fans were rabid, but not enough to pay the full freight.

It was charge the fans an extra 50 bucks a month or all of us 5 bucks a month. If you were a business, which would you choose?

(Numbers are not exact, since this was a long time ago, but close enough)

dsc

(52,166 posts)
25. It isn't a mystery
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:52 PM
Apr 2021

they get large fees from cable companies to carry them, and his ratings help them demand that. Carrier fees are more than advertising for them.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
27. also, as a Swanson TV dinner heir, he could probably payroll the production himself
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 01:34 PM
Apr 2021

in an emergency.

Takket

(21,628 posts)
39. thread on this...
Sat May 1, 2021, 10:02 AM
May 2021

he says to "cut the cord" but many streaming bundles ALSO include Faux news...

maybe some DUers know. I'm looking at sling TV as an alternate. sling blue has faux. sling orange does not. if i sign up for sling orange, does that mean i'm not subsidizing faux?

I'd like to have some kind of package without my money going to faux.




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