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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:15 AM Apr 2021

Something smells rotten in the new report on the Rudy Giuliani case

By Cody Fenwick, AlterNet- Commentary
Published April 29, 2021

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While the federal raid on Rudy Giuliani's home has attracted the national media's attention, there's a thread in the story leading up to the issuance of the search warrant that may be underplayed.

The New York Times story that initially reported the news on Tuesday noted that the investigation into Giuliani has been ongoing for years, growing out of his conduct implicated in the first impeachment of former President Donald Trump. He was instrumental and deeply involved in Trump's 2019 effort to induce Ukraine to announce an investigation into Joe Biden, who they perceived as the president's likely 2020 rival. As part of the effort, Giuliani sought to disparage the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, and eventually, Trump had her removed from office.

This piece of the puzzle, the Times reported Thursday, is key to the current investigation. One central question is whether Giuliani sought to have Yovanovitch removed while illegally working as a lobbyist for foreign interests, according to the report. These allegations aren't particularly new — they've been looming over Giuliani since the impeachment story first broke.

https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-2652831251/

Lock Up the entire bunch and throw the GD key away.........f**ing traitors..........

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Something smells rotten in the new report on the Rudy Giuliani case (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2021 OP
Smells rotten? Well, it does include Rudy Giuliani. Sneederbunk Apr 2021 #1
Yes. And Masha Yovanovitch said as much at the time. Stinky The Clown Apr 2021 #2
Rudy is one hop from both those guys. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2021 #12
And hopefully more than just fireworks. calimary Apr 2021 #18
Yes, there's long been strong allegation that Giuliani went after Yovanovich Hortensis Apr 2021 #3
I Bet There Is A Smile On Madam Ambassador's Lips Today Me. Apr 2021 #4
The real thread would be if they conspired exboyfil Apr 2021 #5
Rudy and Turdy are going to go through some things. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #7
I agree. SilverDawg Apr 2021 #25
That rotten smelling thing is Rudy. n/t Harker Apr 2021 #6
😷😷😷😷😷😷😷 Traildogbob Apr 2021 #11
Truly a rank amateur. n/t Harker Apr 2021 #20
I see what you did there... Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2021 #30
Thanks, Professor... Harker Jun 2021 #31
For Rudy this whole vendetta against Biden goes back to 2007, when Joe said of Giuliani during a sop Apr 2021 #8
Rudy got first responders killed on 9/11 gab13by13 Apr 2021 #17
Smells rotten, sweats mud. Must be Rudy. jaxexpat Apr 2021 #9
Throw all of them in prison!! marieo1 Apr 2021 #10
It's probably taking awhile because the former AG was working for Trump Ohioboy Apr 2021 #22
How can anyone with 3 or more firing synapses defend this nasty old creep? BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #13
he's long presented an almost comic cartoonish character stopdiggin Apr 2021 #16
Those two, and many of their Fellow Travelers, have an air of a clever digital cartoon about them. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #21
well -- I prefer to think the psychotic break stopdiggin Apr 2021 #24
The odds of that are vastly supportive of your preference. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #29
Especially Roger Stone Ohioboy Apr 2021 #23
trial by combat..... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #14
Between Rudy, Fat Donny, Gym Bag, and Maria Fart Aroma... Blue Owl Apr 2021 #15
Yovanovich's life was threatened, according to her testimony at Politicub Apr 2021 #19
The "Three Amigos" trDUMP's super secret team of political operatives,... magicarpet Apr 2021 #26
Rudy needs to change his briefs. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #27
So creepy Pachamama May 2021 #28

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Yes, there's long been strong allegation that Giuliani went after Yovanovich
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:23 AM
Apr 2021

to help Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs, who were allied with Putin. The nations helping Ukraine fight off Russian takeover had to dig out their embedded corruption to do it. It was reportedly Giuliani who talked Trump into firing "the woman."

Talking heads are doing a new-old theme of how America's crime-busting hero could have turned into this bizarre, villainous clown-traitor.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. I Bet There Is A Smile On Madam Ambassador's Lips Today
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:26 AM
Apr 2021

and she'll be laughing her A&& off if he convicted

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
5. The real thread would be if they conspired
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:30 AM
Apr 2021

to have the Ambassador physically injured or killed.

She is going to go through some things.

SilverDawg

(798 posts)
25. I agree.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 03:12 PM
Apr 2021

I've always had the gut feeling that "take her out (Trump on tape)" meant a hit job.

One of the reasons I've suspected why the GOP Senate would not hold a real trial.

But that's just me.

Traildogbob

(8,756 posts)
11. 😷😷😷😷😷😷😷
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:10 PM
Apr 2021

Enough of a scent to force GQP Gym Jordan, Cruz, and Rand Paul to mask up. “Damn the optics, that sweaty, sleazy, asshole stinks.”

sop

(10,193 posts)
8. For Rudy this whole vendetta against Biden goes back to 2007, when Joe said of Giuliani during a
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:51 AM
Apr 2021

presidential debate: "Three things he mentions in a sentence: a noun and a verb and 9/11." Giuliani never forgot that.

Rudy sold Trump the Ukraine/Hunter/Burisma scheme and it blew up in their faces, and got Trump impeached. The worm has turned and now Rudy's in the crosshairs. Couldn't happen to a more deserving scumbag.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
17. Rudy got first responders killed on 9/11
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 01:17 PM
Apr 2021

He put command and control in the twin towers against strong advice not to.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
10. Throw all of them in prison!!
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:05 PM
Apr 2021

Get rid of all of them!! One question I have is 'Why the Hell is it taking so long to get action on these creeps' and 'get rid of them' and imprison them?

Ohioboy

(3,243 posts)
22. It's probably taking awhile because the former AG was working for Trump
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 02:11 PM
Apr 2021

We had to get a new administration before we could finally get justice. One of the weak spots in our system weaponized by Trump.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
13. How can anyone with 3 or more firing synapses defend this nasty old creep?
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:30 PM
Apr 2021

Or the many of those that associate with him? The very, very best I could do for him is be a bit sympathetic towards an old man who can't even manage to lie without contradicting himself and confessing to even more in the next breath.

In a way, it's kind of pitiful, but it's so blatant, and his malice so obvious, that even that little concession is a rationalization too far.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
16. he's long presented an almost comic cartoonish character
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 01:03 PM
Apr 2021

But I largely thought the same of Trump through the years. The whole picture is so blatantly false, malicious -- and very, very creepy. It's a caricature made real! It's alive! (at least we think)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
21. Those two, and many of their Fellow Travelers, have an air of a clever digital cartoon about them.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 02:03 PM
Apr 2021

You're completely right. It all has an air of the surreal about it, and you wonder how this can possibly be happening, or even if it is, and you are dreaming, or having a psychotic break or something.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
24. well -- I prefer to think the psychotic break
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

is presenting itself in the people that are gobbling it up ... But -- what do I know .. ?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
29. The odds of that are vastly supportive of your preference.
Sat May 1, 2021, 10:34 AM
May 2021

But, if one happens to be batshit crazy, how would they know? It must be the world that's off kilter.

Blue Owl

(50,427 posts)
15. Between Rudy, Fat Donny, Gym Bag, and Maria Fart Aroma...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:50 PM
Apr 2021

The GOP has the market cornered on rancid, putrid odors. I'm sure there's more...

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
26. The "Three Amigos" trDUMP's super secret team of political operatives,...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:51 PM
Apr 2021

Fascists goons who sought to withhold the US funds to be released to Ukraine if Ukraine would dig up dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden.

They wanted the present ambassador recalled because she would not put up with this fraudulent political scheme. To the point that physical harm would come her way if she did not get out of Ukraine.

Rudy was trDUMP's Mafioso Mob Goon along with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman all working the back channels to get trDUMP re-elected and Biden severely damaged.

The more this was looked into and investigated the worse it looked for Team trDUMP. The first trDUMP impeachment pulled all the pieces together and showed the level of corruption trDUMP was willing to go to get his second term in the White House.

As it became apparent that Team trDUMP was floundering in hot water over this Ukraine corruption issue ---- US Attorney General billy barr stepped in and quietly shutdown any investigatory process to hold Team trDUMP accountable.

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Extensive media articles to refresh on these issues....

Manhattan federal prosecutors are seeking to examine Rudy Giuliani’s communications with an array of former Ukrainian officials, people familiar with the matter said, as investigators home in on whether the former Trump lawyer’s push to remove a U.S. diplomat in Kyiv violated foreign lobbying rules.

The search warrants executed by federal investigators on Wednesday at Mr. Giuliani’s New York City apartment and office sought evidence related to Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine whom Mr. Giuliani pushed to oust in the spring of 2019, as well as communications with any U.S. government officials or employees regarding the former ambassador or her position, the people said.

Former President Donald Trump ordered Ms. Yovanovitch’s removal in the spring of 2019 after an extensive push by Mr. Giuliani, who personally lobbied the president and then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Much more at link below,..

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rudy-giulianis-contacts-with-former-ukrainian-officials-sought-11619823795

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
28. So creepy
Sat May 1, 2021, 10:06 AM
May 2021

This image makes me cringe and is the perfect summary of who Ghouliani is....and there are many images that are bad.

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