How do I report a busines? Or should I?

[PA_jen]

I went to a bakery in PA today before entering saw thru the Windows 2 employees behind the counter and neither 1 had a mask on. Completely bare faced. I want to report the business but hubby is like a lot more people are going harmless in PA. Yes, numbers are going down and Tuesday I will be fully vaccinated as will husband but I worry with India and Brazil variants I worry we will soon seen either another surge of variant we will behind the covid 8 ball. (On tablet sorry)

[Ms. Toad]

1. Yes, you should report them.

Assuming PA has an employee mask order.

Check the state health department site - Ohio has a site for (anonymously) reporting business violations. But the mechanism may be different in PA.

[PA_jen]

2. PA does have a mask rule.

[Ms. Toad]

3. Link to file a complaint

https://apps.health.pa.gov/covidcomplaint

[PA_jen]

5. Just reported them. Husband wanted me to do it anonymously. People

In our area are getting into people's faces and yelling at mask wearers. He won't allow me to go to certain stores for my safety.

[Ms. Toad]

8. In Ohio, the name blocks are optional

I don't use my name when I report - but I have started giving an email that isn't obviousy connected to me so they can contact me for more information.

We're still red in my county - the level at which mask wearing initially became mandatory on a county-by-county level, and people are acting as if COVID is history. Last I checked there were 280+ infections per 100,000 people. Gov DeWine indicated 50 infections per 100,000 people was the level at which restrictions would be removed.

ETA: If I had a form that required a name, I'd probably make one up.

[Treefrog]

19. Your husband "won't allow" you?

Oh wow.

[PA_jen]

20. poor choice of words. He didn't feel comfortable not to mention the area

of PA is deep red it isn't controlling like abusive it is I will go if trouble I can handle confrontation. He words crazy hours and doesn't want me home alone where trouble can be.

[mahina]

4. What others said and online reviews.

Logical reasoned statements like you made here about the variants are a really good way to go. These people don’t understand we could be right back where we started and worse. If they want this thing to be over, they have to follow the rules.

Yelp
Google

Don’t post your real name probably

Maybe talk to the boss first to see if this is a policy thing first. Could be just a couple of people not following the rules and they might appreciate your input. How they accept the call would be a big part of the main message of the reviews if it were me.

I’m sure you won’t be mean. Still the owners really should be told, and asked.

[PA_jen]

6. I did report it there are some business in our area that are really ignoring the rules and purposely

Advertising it. I think I needed the nudge. I have been debating this all day.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. So, were there other patrons inside as well or just the two employees?

Did they put the masks on when you went in?

That's really all I would care about. Definitely wouldn't report it if two employees were alone in the store and I didn't go in.

Just me

[Ms. Toad]

9. You know the aerosolized droplets don't vanish instantaneously, right?

Anyone entering the store will be walking into it - EVEN if the employees mask up immediately.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

11. Yes, but the only people not putting aerosol droplets into the air are ones with high-end

(like professional-grade) perfect-fitting, totally sealed masks.

But I don't go and inspect every persons mask everywhere I go in order to make sure every molecule of their breath is 100% filtered to avoid aerosol droplets, otherwise I run screaming from the store and call 911.

I also don't want to get people fired.

But hey, y'all do what you gotta do.

[Ms. Toad]

12. Even a poorly fitting mask stops most of the droplets.

And what I want to do is to keep people alive, and safe. That means insisting on compliance with masking orders - and currently stores are falling out of habit with compliance, as this is evidence of.

People wear shirts, shoes, goofy hats, etc. when required by the job - and get fired if they don't. Why is this (which is actually life threatening) more excusable?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

13. So, if *I* have one on, that must work really well, right?

I simply would not have weighed out the situation in the same way you (and OP) have.

If I KNEW one person inside was the OWNER, then I might've come to the same conclusion, but apart from that?

Agree to disagree

[Ms. Toad]

14. I'm sure you know that masks provide more protection when worn

by the person who is expelling the droplets, than by the person breathing them in. So if they are hanging out in the store for an extended period of time without masks, they are creating quite a cesspool to wander into - meaning your mask is providing even less protection than if you had a brief encounter with them.

Whether the owner is present is completely irrelevant to whether the employees are creating a public health risk.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. Oh, I see. They only work well in one direction of air flow. Got it. Makes sense.

I didn't say the owner being present changes the situation in terms of a health risk.

It does, however, very much change the situation in terms of 'how much of a dick I feel like being'.

The Owner can't be fired, you see? And owner is the person I'd hold responsible for his store.

No owner, I just wouldn't go in, be on my way, and forget about it.

Like I said, agree to disagree.

[Ms. Toad]

17. Were you really sleeping under a rock during all of the "wear a mask to protect others" campaigns?

When the CDC first recommended that Americans wear cloth face coverings back in April, it cited evidence that the coronavirus could be transmitted by asymptomatic people who might not be aware of their infectiousness – a group estimated to account for more than 50% of transmissions. The agency said masks were intended to block virus-laden particles that might be emitted by an infected person.

In a report updated Tuesday, the CDC says that is still the primary intention of wearing masks. But it also cites growing evidence that even cloth masks can also reduce the amount of infectious droplets inhaled by the wearer.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/11/933903848/wear-masks-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-not-only-others-cdc-stresses

While the initial reports insisting that mask wearing only protected others were wrong, they are more protective of others than the wearer.

As to concerns about the employee being fired - if an employee stuck ther hand in their pants, then stuck their germy hands in my food because the boss wasn't there they deserve to be fired, because their actions are a public health risk. This is really no different - still disease transmission, just via a different orifice. Employees know a mask is part of their required uniform. They know it is a health risk not to wear one. They chose to ignore both. At least as to mask-wearing - its pretty easy to comply with the rules.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

18. I'll let you have the last word

Good talk

[Treefrog]

21. I hear what you're saying.

Rather than risk employees getting fired, I’d talk to a manager if I felt that strongly about it. If nothing changes, then go the “reporting” route. As it is, I’ve been about to enter a business to order take-out and noticed no one was wearing a mask, customers or workers. I simply left. Let people make their own choices. No way would I have gone into that place, even though at the time I’d had one jab. I’ve had my second now, but still would choose not to go in to a business like that. Reporting them? Probably not.

[PA_jen]

16. No. Others went in masked and the employees didn't put mask on.

[Irish_Dem]

10. You did the right thing to report.

It is a public safety issue and you did the responsible thing.

[634-5789]

22. REPORT THEM.

Where the hell do they think they are...TEXAS?