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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAn Interactive Guide to Ambiguous Grammar
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/an-interactive-guide-to-ambiguous-grammarAs a thought experiment, lets examine in extremely close detail a set of iterative changes that can be made to a single simple grammatical structure, turning it from a statement taken at face value into one loaded with unrealized implication. This makes for rich writing which rewards or even demands close scrutiny.
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The most fundamental feature of the passive voice is the conversion of the object into the subject by way of a stative verb. This often requires complete structural inversion of the sentence, since the two clauses are changing position, but it allows the roles of the nouns to shift, bringing the secondary participant to the foreground.
The lazy dog is jumped over by the quick brown fox.
Stick with it, even if you're not a grammar fan. Please don't comment about your grammar cop status; that isn't what this is about.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)But, the past two decades have (fortunately) brought some (albeit often minimal) switch to active voice.
It is more understandable. There is no doubt of this, but old habits (and dogma) die slowly.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)describing police-related violent events. Given the former was the extent of what you excerpted, I focused on what you gave us.
Certainly, I agree this is an example of problematic grammar when extended to real-world serious incidents--where GOOD editors are in so seemingly short supply.
chia
(2,244 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)I mean it's vague, and doesn't use a concrete action verb, but it's not vague due to passive voice.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)While using the active voice is essential in many kinds of communications, it is not an absolute rule for writers. Not at all.
It's a good starting point, and is effective, particularly in business communications, but with experience, good writers learn how the passive voice has a different sort of impact on the reader.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)In fact, most PR folks are poor writers, based on my long experience dealing with them.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)exactly the information the writer wants them to have thats certainly effective writing.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The cops have their own style sheet, apparently.
the phrase "Officer-involved shooting" is meaningless, for example. It can mean an officer was shot or that an officer shot somebody. It's police-speak.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... then the author is perfect for PR, or for writing ballot proposals.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)When writing for a broad audience, you need to be direct.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... were equally involved in a high-speed-related caravan which could be described as a car chase?
So give us both a warning and let us part peacefully.
Emrys
(7,242 posts)I'd have posted it as an OP on DU before now (I think I linked to in discussion a few years ago), but it relies on animated text for its full impact, so I'd encourage anyone who hasn't done so to click through and read to the end as it unfolds.
SPOILER ALERT:
It culminates in this: