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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,034 posts)
Mon May 10, 2021, 06:07 PM May 2021

Researchers Say They've Uncovered a Massive Facebook Bot Farm From the 2020 Election

A group of security researchers say they’ve unmasked a massive bot farm that aimed to shape public opinion on Facebook during the heat of the 2020 presidential election.

According to Paul Bischoff of Comparitech, a British cybersecurity company, the network includes 13,775 unique Facebook accounts that each posted roughly 15 times per month, for an output of more than 50,000 posts a week. The accounts appear to have been used for “political manipulation,” Bischoff says, with roughly half the posts being related to political topics and another 17 percent related to COVID-19. Each account has a profile photo and friends list—likely consisting of other bots, the researchers suggest—and they’ve joined “specific Facebook groups where their posts are more likely to be seen and discussed by legitimate users.”



The most-used keyword in the posts was “Trump,” the researchers found, followed by “Biden.” The accounts date back at least as far as October 2020, and, in addition to posts discussing specific events in the 2020 US presidential elections, were also active around the California wildfires, protests in Belarus, and US border issues. The researchers were able to determine that the fake accounts were created and controlled using Selenium, software designed to automate web application testing, but that can also be used to mimic human behavior in ways that could be difficult for automated bot detection software to spot.

According to a Comparitech spokesperson, Facebook did not respond to Bob Diachenko, an independent cybersecurity expert who helped lead the research, when he attempted to bring the teams’s findings to the platform’s attention. A Facebook representative said the company would look into a sample of the accounts identified by Comparitech, but declined further comment.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/facebook-bot-farm/

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Researchers Say They've Uncovered a Massive Facebook Bot Farm From the 2020 Election (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
Damned social media...no wonder this country is divided PortTack May 2021 #1
Kickin' with disgust! Faux pas May 2021 #2
My ire is more against people who refuse to THINK than Facebook et. al. Moostache May 2021 #3
Excellent point! TheRickles May 2021 #15
Facebook for me is a way to keep in touch with those I don't see very often Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #18
facebook, like twitter and fox, are part of the free speech spectrum. rw radio should not be certainot May 2021 #37
I agree PatSeg May 2021 #39
There are many links in this chain of manipulation and we need to destroy them all. abqtommy May 2021 #4
Edward Bernays I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #12
Douglas Adams anticipated Facebook in a slightly different way, when he postulated The Babel Fish GoneOffShore May 2021 #32
K&R smirkymonkey May 2021 #5
Fuck Fuckkkerberg Blue Owl May 2021 #6
"Many used "mail[.]ru" accounts seemingly originating in Russia" dalton99a May 2021 #7
I wonder if they were involved in Brexit. LiberalFighter May 2021 #8
You can bet the "farm" they were... ashredux May 2021 #9
Good one mjvpi May 2021 #30
I think that's been proven. yardwork May 2021 #22
I've noticed that gratuitous May 2021 #10
Beep boop. DiamondShark May 2021 #27
Facebook... turbinetree May 2021 #11
Yeah, too bad everyone was so willing to give up the integrity of our democracy... LudwigPastorius May 2021 #35
Fuck Facebook and the guy who created it. SergeStorms May 2021 #13
We need the Dems to do something about this ASAP!!! BigmanPigman May 2021 #14
Um, no.... reACTIONary May 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author drray23 May 2021 #25
Damn damn damn Hekate May 2021 #16
FOX has been at for what, 35 years now? 2Gingersnaps May 2021 #17
IMO Facebook should be split up into a billion pieces so every user can have their fair share bucolic_frolic May 2021 #19
Are you surprised by this information? BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #21
Word of advice genius Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #24
All I can say is I hope Dems have bigger bot farms. Pepsidog May 2021 #23
I've come to assume most of the "people" you're arguing with on social media Johonny May 2021 #26
Social media has been a disaster. The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #28
Yes and Facebook was/is helping them do it FakeNoose May 2021 #38
I wouldn't be surprised if much of this came from the remains of the Cambridge Analytica fiasco BumRushDaShow May 2021 #29
Attempts to manipulate through social media are here to stay. SYFROYH May 2021 #31
The official White House page is overrun by bots Beaverhausen May 2021 #33
"While many (of the phony accounts) used "mail.ru", seemingly originating in Russia,... LudwigPastorius May 2021 #34
"M-kay. Yeah, we'll look into it." lpbk2713 May 2021 #36

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. My ire is more against people who refuse to THINK than Facebook et. al.
Mon May 10, 2021, 06:14 PM
May 2021

If you are getting your news and vital information directly from Facebook and accepting it uncritically and unquestioningly, you are not just part of the problem, you ARE the problem!

The answer here is not to muzzle Facebook or have the government direct the speech accepted on it. The answer is to get people to stop being so credulous and stupid at the same time.

Cigarettes all carry a warning label.
Logging into Facebook should carry a similar label:

WARNING: Facebook is an unregulated collection of OPINIONS. It is largely NOT adequately fact checked or sourced at all; and it is therefore an unreliable source of vital information and NOT journalism in any sense of the word. This platform and its owners refuse to take care in what pollutes the public square and as such, you should NEVER believe anything published here unquestioningly. EVER. If you cannot understand this, you ARE the problem in America today.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,034 posts)
18. Facebook for me is a way to keep in touch with those I don't see very often
Mon May 10, 2021, 07:19 PM
May 2021

I take most of the news I see there with a grain of salt.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
37. facebook, like twitter and fox, are part of the free speech spectrum. rw radio should not be
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:49 PM
May 2021

but it mistakenly is. a random sampling of limbaugh shows showed "trump" used nearly every minute 3 hours/day. all positive, while the "bidens" would all be negative. trump wasn't a branding genius - putin and limmbaugh were.

social media isn't the problem - the rw radio monopoly is but the analysts read and watch and have no clue - which is why we're in this mess.

facebook just piggybacks rw radio. best cheapest thing facebook could do is use all that AI to digitize talk radio and make searching for trolls a lot easier

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
39. I agree
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:15 PM
May 2021

Though there are plenty of reasons to be critical of Facebook, in the end it is how people use it. It shouldn't be a replacement for reading your daily newspaper in the morning or watching the nightly news (legitimate news of course).

I stay in touch with friends and family who are all over the country and have found people I'd lost touch with years ago. It serves me well in that capacity. We share photos and updates about our lives. Some people, including myself, are more isolated due to circumstances, age, or health. Being able to interact with other people is very beneficial.

We have so many excellent sources for news, politics, and commentary, there is no excuse for relying on Facebook - it was never intended to be anything other than a SOCIAL platform. Well, that and a marketing tool that sells individuals' information. That part needs more regulation, but apparently we cannot regulate people's stupidity, ignorance, and laziness.

So blame social media where it is appropriate, but we cannot blame them for how people use or misuse their platform.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
12. Edward Bernays
Mon May 10, 2021, 06:52 PM
May 2021

Let a curse upon humanity with his invention of public relations ,or how to manipulate consent and control people via manipulation.

I curse his grave.

And I hate all the so called elite motherfuckers and companies who use his techiques and refine them.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
32. Douglas Adams anticipated Facebook in a slightly different way, when he postulated The Babel Fish
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:16 PM
May 2021
“Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.”


The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. I've noticed that
Mon May 10, 2021, 06:44 PM
May 2021

Quite often in a political thread there will be a post from someone you wouldn't think would be frequenting a liberal Facebook redoubt. You click through to their profile, and there's no history, a paucity of photos, and no posts going back years. I often reply to those comments, pointing out yet another remarkable instance of a previously moribund Facebook profile suddenly whirring to life to present the dumbass perspective on this or that issue. Then I report their profile to the powers that be.

Sometimes it works.

DiamondShark

(787 posts)
27. Beep boop.
Tue May 11, 2021, 06:55 AM
May 2021

Thank you for calling out real bots. But those of us that refrain from posting because of being called a bot for "low post count" or "erratic posting behavior" yeah, well, I am getting sick and tired of being called a bot.

Please understand that there is a real person, with real feeling behind this account. And to remember being called names hurts.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
35. Yeah, too bad everyone was so willing to give up the integrity of our democracy...
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:39 PM
May 2021

just so they could see pictures of Cousin Earle's new baby.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
14. We need the Dems to do something about this ASAP!!!
Mon May 10, 2021, 07:01 PM
May 2021

Fuck Fakebook! They are a private company and any free speech BS they claim is invalid as a private company. I heard this on CNN over the weekend.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
20. Um, no....
Mon May 10, 2021, 07:25 PM
May 2021

... As any company or organization, they do indeed have free speech rights.

Just as the company that publishes the Washington Post does. Just as the company that runs DU does.

And so do all of their members - like, for instance, me.

Response to reACTIONary (Reply #20)

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
17. FOX has been at for what, 35 years now?
Mon May 10, 2021, 07:11 PM
May 2021

What has been done to neuter that obvious cancer? FB is just a little more devious in it's approach.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
21. Are you surprised by this information?
Mon May 10, 2021, 07:57 PM
May 2021

If so, that is another reason to tell you that you are part of the problem. I'm sorry, but you are just uninformed and unaware.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
26. I've come to assume most of the "people" you're arguing with on social media
Mon May 10, 2021, 11:49 PM
May 2021

are bots. I've gone to just blocking people on Facebook and Twitter. They're not real, and not worth seeing again.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
38. Yes and Facebook was/is helping them do it
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:59 PM
May 2021


If Facebook can't act like responsible adults, they need to be regulated right out of business.

SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
31. Attempts to manipulate through social media are here to stay.
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:06 PM
May 2021


I mean, I still get an incredible amount of deceitful mailers in the physical mail where one would think it would be easy to stop them.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
33. The official White House page is overrun by bots
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:21 PM
May 2021

it's so obvious. They tear down every post.

Fortunately there is also a President Joe Biden page that so far doesn't seem to have been found by the bots and is more friends.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
34. "While many (of the phony accounts) used "mail.ru", seemingly originating in Russia,...
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:33 PM
May 2021

the researchers did not allege who was behind the bot farm, or who controlled the unsecured server."

Narrator's Voice: "It was Russia."

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