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bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:36 AM May 2021

Joni Ernst leaving the cult? Accuses party of "cancel culture" over Liz Cheney ouster

The only woman in Republican Senate leadership complained about cancel culture on Monday, regarding the imminent removal of Liz Cheney, the only woman in Republican House leadership, because she opposes Donald Trump’s big lie that the presidential election was stolen.

The Iowa senator Joni Ernst told reporters: “I feel it’s OK to go ahead and express what you feel is right to express and, you know, cancel culture is cancel culture no matter how you look at it.

“Unfortunately, I think there are those that are trying to silence others in the party.”

“Cancel culture” has become a shibboleth of the modern Republican party, repeatedly invoked when public figures become embroiled in controversy regarding opinions or statements deemed to be racist, sexist or otherwise unacceptable.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/11/joni-ernst-liz-cheney-ousting-trump-republicans-cancel-culture
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Joni Ernst leaving the cult? Accuses party of "cancel culture" over Liz Cheney ouster (Original Post) bullwinkle428 May 2021 OP
Now speak the truth to your constituents, Joni. ProudMNDemocrat May 2021 #1
She got re-elected last year, which gives her some immunity. Vogon_Glory May 2021 #2
This. The white male party's increasingly aggressive hostility to women in power, Hortensis May 2021 #10
It's becoming increasinly obvious, isn't it? Or perhaps "blatant" is closer to the mark. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #21
Blatant! Definitely far from alone. It doesn't look like Ernst is a fraction Hortensis May 2021 #22
Should....but will they? BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #26
Oh, I've known many women who've serenely subjugated themselves Hortensis May 2021 #27
Now THAT is blowback! BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #28
That's right. If her seat was up in 2022 I bet she would be conspicuously quiet Buckeyeblue May 2021 #20
shibboleth.. jcgoldie May 2021 #3
they love them. mopinko May 2021 #4
How so? JHB May 2021 #5
rly? how do they use dog whistles? mopinko May 2021 #6
How is "shibboleth" a dog whistle? JHB May 2021 #7
like this- was 2020 stolen? mopinko May 2021 #14
Then I'm confused. Which words are we talking about? JHB May 2021 #15
THANKS for this elleng May 2021 #17
Shiboleth hedda_foil May 2021 #13
If you are a Re-Publican woman, remember this. multigraincracker May 2021 #8
Joni, a Republican/Nazi, is mad at other Republican/Nazis for acting like Republican/Nazis. Hmmm. johnthewoodworker May 2021 #9
She just got re elected and knows Trump will be dead by comradebillyboy May 2021 #11
Joni knows that if a sniveling sycophant like MontanaMama May 2021 #12
Separating the Alpha MAGAt Males from the weaker sex bucolic_frolic May 2021 #16
Notice Joni isn't dismissing the big lie herself n/m BradAllison May 2021 #18
Well lets think about this Joni Ernst...... turbinetree May 2021 #19
You'll love Joni in her new hit "And now I'm a Centrist!" struggle4progress May 2021 #23
Phony joni said that? JPPaverage May 2021 #24
Cancel culture is a relatively new trigger phrase /dog whistle for us vs them. Already it's being us keithbvadu2 May 2021 #25

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
1. Now speak the truth to your constituents, Joni.
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:47 AM
May 2021

Follow through and see that President Joe Biden is doing right by and for the people of Iowa.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
2. She got re-elected last year, which gives her some immunity.
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:50 AM
May 2021

She’d still be in the Senate in 2025 if Agent Orange ran again and lost.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. This. The white male party's increasingly aggressive hostility to women in power,
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:13 AM
May 2021

even or especially their own, has itself become a clear and present danger to Ernst's own reelection. Who would a male authoritarian government want in her seat?

All RW authoritarian governments are male dominated and seek subjugation of women as a primary goal.

The pubs cut women in their house caucus in half in 2018 (to 13!!!). Looked too bad too soon, so they get some more elected in 2020, who are, like their predecessors, finding themselves in a hostile, very male dominated workplace.

Ernst should keep a pair of castration pliers in her briefcase.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
21. It's becoming increasinly obvious, isn't it? Or perhaps "blatant" is closer to the mark.
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:50 AM
May 2021

Still, I've never been a fan of either Cheney (Liz or Nosferatu) or Ernst. I'm pretty sure I'm far from alone in that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Blatant! Definitely far from alone. It doesn't look like Ernst is a fraction
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:07 PM
May 2021

as committed to saving our democracy as Cheney, but she's at least shining an indirect light on her colleagues' war on women, now that it's threatening her. She's still far from calling pigs badly in need of castration what they are, but a lot of Republican women should get the message.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
26. Should....but will they?
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:10 AM
May 2021

Certain religions, or sects within, are demonstrably misogynistic, yet some women will actually convert, voluntarily subjugating themselves, and their whole gender, really. If the snake-charmers are able to manage that, convincing the Stepford Wives of the GOP that they are in the right place, or merely keeping them convinced, should be a piece of cake. As it seems to be.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Oh, I've known many women who've serenely subjugated themselves
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:53 AM
May 2021

and not been at all unhappy or abused, or stupid. Like male authoritarians who follow orders comfortably and accept their place in unequal and often unfair socioeconomic hierarchies, it feels right and natural. And is for them.

Nevertheless, a whole lot of conservative females out there, including businesswomen and professionals, have been raised with very different expectations of what is appropriate for them and their daughters, and their granddaughters, than the yahoos in the Republican caucuses want.

Reminds me of a wedding we attended of a young woman raised in a very fundamentalist religion who promised to obey her husband, hold herself in submission, serve him, etc, etc., while we listened in some bemusement. Because she'd also grown up in Los Angeles The marriage was over in 3 months. Her very stupid and unworthy husband thought the vows meant she'd put up with whatever he did, but then she did too, obviously not having given it much thought at all. Not any kind of a trap for a girl with five older brothers, though, who obviously had developed updated expectations for what was appropriate for wives who were their sisters. She called them and they cleaned out their new two-story tract home in an afternoon. They didn't even leave the creep a role of toilet paper.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
28. Now THAT is blowback!
Thu May 13, 2021, 10:08 PM
May 2021

And this from a young woman who thought she was ready for that life. Extraordinary!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
7. How is "shibboleth" a dog whistle?
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:36 AM
May 2021

Granted, I think as used in the article "chew toy" is a more accurate term than "shibboleth", but it's a term that has been in the political vocabulary for decades. And it's the journalist who used the word, not the Republicans. Or maybe because I'm from the NYC area I don't automatically assume a New York-based writer using a word with origins in the Jewish community meant it as some sort of antiSemitic dog whistle. It's simply part of political vocabulary.

So how is it a dog whistle?


mopinko

(70,092 posts)
14. like this- was 2020 stolen?
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:46 AM
May 2021

yes>member of the tribe. a true believer.
no>the enemy.


it's JUST like that.
and then there is- the democrat party.

they love them. it's all they've got.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
15. Then I'm confused. Which words are we talking about?
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:08 AM
May 2021

"Cancel culture", which sure as all hell is a Republican dog whistle.

Or "shibboleth", which was used by a political writer in an article for a British publication that is generally critical of modern Republicans, not by a Republican, as far as I can tell. This is the one I'm contesting dog-whistle status about.

Maybe we just took different meanings from jcgoldie's post.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
17. THANKS for this
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:13 AM
May 2021

'clip,' starts my day off perfectly!

As to ernst, the more the merrier, imo.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
13. Shiboleth
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:36 AM
May 2021

Shiboleth
1. A word or pronunciation that distinguishes people of one group or class from those of another.

multigraincracker

(32,674 posts)
8. If you are a Re-Publican woman, remember this.
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:42 AM
May 2021

You must be ready to be told what to think and do by an orange pervert. The is no room in the party for strong independent women. Toe the line and get back in the kitchen.

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
11. She just got re elected and knows Trump will be dead by
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:25 AM
May 2021

the time her term is up. She's looking to her own future in the post trump era.

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
12. Joni knows that if a sniveling sycophant like
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:26 AM
May 2021

Kevin McQuarthy can take out Liz Cheney, they can take her out easy peazy.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
19. Well lets think about this Joni Ernst......
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:36 AM
May 2021

she voted twice to not convict and to keep a narcissistic psychopath in office twice and they have no plan for the country, none, and they made this bed they are sleeping in and they want me to have pity on the shit they are going through............

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
23. You'll love Joni in her new hit "And now I'm a Centrist!"
Tue May 11, 2021, 04:53 PM
May 2021

You thrill to her rendition of "We're moderates, Liz and me!"

"Moms bake the bullets in the apple pie!" will bring you to tears!





keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
25. Cancel culture is a relatively new trigger phrase /dog whistle for us vs them. Already it's being us
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:47 AM
May 2021

Cancel culture is a relatively new trigger phrase /dog whistle for us vs them. Already it's being used for internal party purity.

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