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MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:08 AM May 2021

Trump's Ex-Pentagon Chief Chris Miller Expected to Turn On Him At Capitol Riot Hearing

If only something would come from these hearings...


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-ex-pentagon-chief-chris-miller-expected-to-turn-on-him-at-capitol-riot-hearing/ar-BB1gAb6e?li=BBnb7Kz

Miller will testify at a hearing by the House Oversight Committee entitled "The Capitol Insurrection: Unexplained Delays and Unanswered Questions." The committee has said that it wants to examine the Executive Branch and District agencies' preparations for and responses to the insurrection.

In early March, Miller said that the insurrection occurred because of Trump's "Stop the Steal" rally and speech held beforehand. At the rally, Trump continued to baselessly claim that an unprecedented nationwide "criminal enterprise" of voter fraud "stole" the presidential election from him.

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Trump's Ex-Pentagon Chief Chris Miller Expected to Turn On Him At Capitol Riot Hearing (Original Post) MissMillie May 2021 OP
Keep it in the news . . Lovie777 May 2021 #1
Whats the purpose of these hearings ? Nothing comes from them Beachnutt May 2021 #2
To give those that want justice a glimmer of hope... MiHale May 2021 #3
These hearings are an attempt to get to the truth of what happened and why bottomofthehill May 2021 #23
"This is not NCIS or Matolck for the older crowd." Dave Bowman May 2021 #31
So it seems! Thought Honore would have concentrated on Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #7
General Honres report was published weeks ago bottomofthehill May 2021 #19
So it seems. Still thought he was gonna get to the bottom of Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #24
Did you miss........ KS Toronado May 2021 #10
Unnnn, when it comes to Donny Brosco Trump they turn extra extra damn slow. Anyone else uponit7771 May 2021 #15
Agree 100%, they are turning extra extra damn slow KS Toronado May 2021 #33
👍🏾 uponit7771 May 2021 #34
Um..Donnie Brasco Was A Good Guy ProfessorGAC May 2021 #36
I'll look that up Thought Brasco was a double agent uponit7771 May 2021 #37
Sort Of, Only ProfessorGAC May 2021 #38
I sure hope so. The guy is a doofus. Geechie May 2021 #39
What, other than informing the public... reACTIONary May 2021 #16
We're trained by movies and TV series to expect gratification Hortensis May 2021 #35
The biggest and worst judicial treasonous move the DOJ can commit is to not put trump behind bars Escurumbele May 2021 #4
A Republican/Nazi politician will pay for his crimes, dream on. johnthewoodworker May 2021 #5
Trump installed Christopher Miller as head of the DoD after he lost the election and on 1/4/21.... Botany May 2021 #6
Yes... But former guy HAD to have been pulling these strings. Right? Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #9
If by "the former guy" you mean the former Sec. of Defense because he was either fired or quit ... Botany May 2021 #12
I have no doubt that was the plan. hedda_foil May 2021 #14
"Former guy" is MF45. gab13by13 May 2021 #17
Thanx Botany May 2021 #18
Best 'summary' of the whole affair! MyOwnPeace May 2021 #27
"So why isn't he already in jail?" Botany May 2021 #28
Former Guy trump. Agree with everything you said Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #21
Between Miller as the head of the DoD and Mike Flynn's brother in a command position the slow ... Botany May 2021 #26
Yes they were. We may never know who's idea it was huh. Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #30
Miller says his decision was based on part by this notification from the DC mayor bottomofthehill May 2021 #25
Perhaps this will bring down the level of mystification in the popular media gratuitous May 2021 #8
Puzzled Bob_in_VA May 2021 #11
lol ... right? Cosmocat May 2021 #13
Nor have they been asked to explain that vote by mail was directly caused Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #29
republiQon traitors to America deserve a full measure of justice Champp May 2021 #20
"If only..." indeed, MissMillie! BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #22
kick Dawson Leery May 2021 #32
Good detailed timeline. Albeit confusing Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #40

Beachnutt

(7,321 posts)
2. Whats the purpose of these hearings ? Nothing comes from them
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:11 AM
May 2021

even when they lie under oath nothing happens....

MiHale

(9,722 posts)
3. To give those that want justice a glimmer of hope...
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:17 AM
May 2021

to hang on to as we are told to “move on”.

In other words, you’re right, nothing.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
23. These hearings are an attempt to get to the truth of what happened and why
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:54 AM
May 2021

This is not NCIS or Matolck for the older crowd. It’s not done in a one hour episode. This is part of building an evidence based foundation. You do that be getting people on record under oath. Some in public and some in private via the grand jury process. They you compare stories and bring charges. The former guy may never be charged in this and that sucks, we have heard Michael Cohen say he operates as a mob boss, but take enough of the people down around him off their participation in the insurrection and you neuter him.

There are other more direct shitty things he was involved in. Hopefully once people see the emperor has no clothes, they will shine the light on those.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. So it seems! Thought Honore would have concentrated on
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:00 AM
May 2021

how the NG or other support for Capitol Police would have been figured out. In fact I remember thinking oh my god we have to wait for Honore's group to be finished? Admit I haven't kept up with it but I would bet my last dollar that with a wink and a nod Trump told them all to slow down with support.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
19. General Honres report was published weeks ago
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:47 AM
May 2021

It was completed in 6 weeks. The purpose of that commission was to secure the Capitol, not an investigation of 1/6.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. So it seems. Still thought he was gonna get to the bottom of
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:55 AM
May 2021

How in the hell Cap police were not backed up. WHO created that!!

KS Toronado

(17,224 posts)
10. Did you miss........
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:03 AM
May 2021

" Miller said that the insurrection occurred because of Trump's "Stop the Steal" rally and speech held beforehand."?
Miller will be painting a picture the reQublicans don't want to see, making the public aware of things we didn't
know. Wheels of justice turn slowly, but they're always turning.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
15. Unnnn, when it comes to Donny Brosco Trump they turn extra extra damn slow. Anyone else
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:32 AM
May 2021

... would've been charged by now they don't need overwhelming evidence to charge Putin's Whore with crime.

KS Toronado

(17,224 posts)
33. Agree 100%, they are turning extra extra damn slow
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:47 PM
May 2021

Possibly because we have never put a former president in jail for the rest of his life?

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
36. Um..Donnie Brasco Was A Good Guy
Tue May 11, 2021, 06:15 PM
May 2021

He was an undercover FBI agent, whose real name was Joe Pistone.
His work essentially destroyed to mob families.
Putting Brasco's name with T***p insults a law enforcement hero & legend.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
38. Sort Of, Only
Tue May 11, 2021, 06:43 PM
May 2021

He was a mob infiltrator. He pretended to be a jewel thief & got really close to several top ranking mobsters.
It was the mob he betrayed! That was his job!
He did get sent off, with lifetime pay, in the Witness Protection System. He has not been an active agent for a long time.
FBI guy or not, the mob wants him dead. He needed WPS!
He got so inside, they gave him a contract to get made. That's when the higher ups pulled the plug on the project. Was getting too dangerous. As if being a cop inside the mob for a year wasn't dangerous enough.
He basically turned the Bonanno family into a minor street gang & did major damage to the Columbo family.
They really don't like him.

Geechie

(865 posts)
39. I sure hope so. The guy is a doofus.
Tue May 11, 2021, 07:05 PM
May 2021

My first impression of him was watching him walk up the steps to his new workplace, trip on the steps, and then TAKE HIS MASK OFF JUST BEFORE ENTERING THE BUILDING.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
16. What, other than informing the public...
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:34 AM
May 2021

... Shaming the preparators, and providing guidance for future legislation, would you expect to come of it?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. We're trained by movies and TV series to expect gratification
Tue May 11, 2021, 05:52 PM
May 2021

within short periods -- exactly when directors know we need it for satisfaction. I don't know how you can assume nothing comes from hearings, but do at least remember that the Biden administration was only sworn in at the end of January and key officials are still awaiting senate confirmation and Trump officials still being chiseled out. Merrick Garland's been there long enough to find the offices of his staff, but only some of them have been filled. Good news -- his second in command, who'll be in charge of day-to-day operations, is now there, almost 3 months late, but at work!

Be patient. This is never fast.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
4. The biggest and worst judicial treasonous move the DOJ can commit is to not put trump behind bars
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
May 2021

trump and Benedict Arnold belong on the same pages of USA history, the treason chapter.

trump has to be the worst human being the World has known in many years, he does not deserve to end his days in Mar-A-Lago or anywhere else, he deserves to be in jail, with Giuliani and all the other bad actors.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
6. Trump installed Christopher Miller as head of the DoD after he lost the election and on 1/4/21....
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:00 AM
May 2021

.... Miller sent a stand order to the D.C. National Guard. He was in on the attempted coup. Miller knew that "the shit" was
coming. "To employ any riot control agents." How did he know that there was going to be a riot?

This memorandum responds directly to your January 4, 2021 memorandum regarding the District of Columbia request for District of Columbia National Guard (DCNG) support in response to planned demonstrations from January 5-6, 2021. You are authorized to approve the requested support, subject to my guidance below and subject to consultation with the Attorney General, as required by Executive Order 11485.

Without my subsequent, personal authorization, the DCNG is not authorized the following:

* To be issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, riot control agents or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor.

* To employ any riot control agents.

* To interact physically with protesters, except when necessary in self-defense or defense of others.

* Prohibited from sharing “equipment with law enforcement agencies” or seeking support from any non-DC National Guard units.

* Forbidden from conducting “searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity.”

* Forbidden from using “Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance assets” or to conduct “Incident, Awareness and Assessment activities.”

* No helicopters or “any other air assets.”

https://www.nationalmemo.com/miller-disarmed-national-guard

Botany

(70,501 posts)
12. If by "the former guy" you mean the former Sec. of Defense because he was either fired or quit ...
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:14 AM
May 2021

... after Trump lost the election. Trump and company started planning the riot/coup right after he
lost the election. I think he wanted enough violence and bloodshed that he could declare martial
law and stop Joe Biden from becoming President and that was because Trump was scared shitless
of his upcoming legal and civil penalties.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
18. Thanx
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:38 AM
May 2021

Trump:

Gave out the day, the date, the time, and the place for the violent attempted coup on
numerous invitations. Including one in which he said something like, "Jan. 6th be here
and go wild."

Helped paid for "it" using Trump campaign funds.

Had the niece of his chief of staff file the paperwork for the permit for his pre-riot pep rally.

Decapitated the D.C. National Guard so they could not help in responding to what he knew
was going to massive violence.

Refused to send help or call off his attackers after phone calls from Rep. McCarthy and V.P. Pence.

Told the violent insurrectionist criminals who had invaded and damaged the Nation's Capitol that
"he loved 'em."

Lock his ass up.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
27. Best 'summary' of the whole affair!
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:11 PM
May 2021

It is SO obvious - and easy to follow and explain.........

So why isn't he already in jail?

Botany

(70,501 posts)
28. "So why isn't he already in jail?"
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:18 PM
May 2021

I don't know but if he is charged with a federal crime he might have already written a pardon
that covered himself. I don't know if D.C. crimes are like state crimes and not covered by a
Presidential pardon for the 1/6/21 riot/coup. Trump I think is on the line for millions in civil
penalties for the attack on the US Capitol.

BTW if you like the summary feel free to use it and pass it on because the one weapon that the
right still has and uses very effectively is disinformation.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. Former Guy trump. Agree with everything you said
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:49 AM
May 2021

Someone HAD to have given the order to stand down ( more like slow down which is less incriminating and easier to explain especially with mass confusion and typical bureaucracy)

Botany

(70,501 posts)
26. Between Miller as the head of the DoD and Mike Flynn's brother in a command position the slow ...
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:05 PM
May 2021

... down and or stand down orders were clear. How did Acting Sec. of Defense Miller know about a riot 2 days prior?



gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Perhaps this will bring down the level of mystification in the popular media
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:01 AM
May 2021

A lot of reports on the failed insurrection are still not quite sure how it all started, who might have instigated it, why the traitors stormed the Capitol on January 6, and what it was all about. It's so mystifying!

Bob_in_VA

(88 posts)
11. Puzzled
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:04 AM
May 2021

Perhaps a bit O/T but...

Never gotten a clear answer from the conservatives on this question. If the Democrats had the willingness and the ability to commit voter fraud on such a massive scale as to defeat Trump, why wouldn't they go ahead and "fix" a few Senate races at the same time? They could have fixed three or four close races in the Dem's favor and Mitch would have been left standing there with his face hanging out when the Articles of Impeachment were sent to the Senate for the second time. Heck. If the Dems could "fix" elections, they could have sent ol' Mitch home in defeat and Amy McGrath would have taken his seat. After all, ol' Mitch is thoroughly disliked in KY, so his loss to her would not have been all that surprising.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
13. lol ... right?
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:25 AM
May 2021

But, they have an astounding ability to selectively pick and choose their delusions.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Nor have they been asked to explain that vote by mail was directly caused
Tue May 11, 2021, 12:32 PM
May 2021

by trump's neglect in controlling the virus. He made it so people were afraid to go out to the polls. Instead trump and the GOP blamed our side. What else is new huh.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
22. "If only..." indeed, MissMillie!
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:53 AM
May 2021

Where is the chorus of "Lock him up!" now? There just has to be more compelling evidence of criminal behaviour than has been specifically testified to.

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