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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,185 posts)
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:00 PM May 2021

Numerous GOP House Members Reportedly 'Pissed Off' at McCarthy Over Cheney Fiasco: 'Weak Leadership.

One day ahead of the vote to oust one of their leaders from her position, a new report says there’s growing unrest in the ranks among the GOP House caucus over the whole episode.

According to Tuesday’s edition of Politico Playbook, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) is facing backlash from House Republicans for his push to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) from leadership. Playbook reports that the move is being viewed by some GOP members (and not just moderate “Adam Kinzinger types,” Politico reports) as McCarthy throwing his own colleague to the “MAGA wolves” to secure the backing of former President Donald Trump in his potential bid for speaker in 2022.

“Kevin McCarthy has pissed off enough members of his own conference that he’s going to have to go back to his former days as a whip to try to figure out where his votes are [to become speaker],” an unnamed GOP member of Congress told Politico. The unidentified representative — whom Politico billed as a perceived McCarthy ally — added, “You have people like me — who are here to do the right thing for all the right reasons and have an expectation of leadership — that are, shall we say, disgusted with the internal squabbling that results from having weak leadership. And it is weak leadership. Straight up.”

A senior aide to a conservative GOP House member also told Politico that McCarthy’s back-and-forth on whether or not the former president is complicit in the Capitol riot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/numerous-gop-house-members-reportedly-pissed-off-at-mccarthy-over-cheney-fiasco-weak-leadership-straight-up/ar-BB1gBLYo

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Numerous GOP House Members Reportedly 'Pissed Off' at McCarthy Over Cheney Fiasco: 'Weak Leadership. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
More "un-named" yellows. Dawson Leery May 2021 #1
Odd, innit? gratuitous May 2021 #14
Good one, and you are 100% right. Republicans are such cowards, no spine, no dignity, nothing Escurumbele May 2021 #26
+1, uponit7771 May 2021 #41
That's what I would think if I were a moderate republican...you supported a party all of your life SWBTATTReg May 2021 #2
It's mafia style: what have you done for me lately? . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #9
To be honest... Reminds me of Franken a little. CrackityJones75 May 2021 #25
You mean how Franken was outed? Escurumbele May 2021 #28
In the way that they are all just jumping on the bandwagon and throwing her under the bus? Yes. Maraya1969 May 2021 #34
These cowards aren't going to oust him though, so I'm not sure they should be RockRaven May 2021 #3
Oh snap!! I see a sternly worded letter (which will never be mailed) in their future.....nt Carlitos Brigante May 2021 #4
'there's growing unrest in the ranks among the GOP House caucus over the whole episode.' elleng May 2021 #5
Republicans have sold their souls ( if they ever had one) for a drink of the MAGA kool aide. Comfortably_Numb May 2021 #6
It would be amazing if she survived... lame54 May 2021 #7
Is this the same as MontanaMama May 2021 #8
Adam Kinzinger is now a "moderate"? On what planet? Midnight Writer May 2021 #10
On the planet where ShazzieB May 2021 #13
Ike would be a liberal. Marcuse May 2021 #27
So would Nixon Deminpenn May 2021 #33
He is my rep and he is no moderate. murielm99 May 2021 #39
I had the same thought - he's a saner appearing version of Rick Santorum. Probatim May 2021 #23
Or Illinois Governor ProfessorGAC May 2021 #38
I went to his so-called town hall a year ago. murielm99 May 2021 #40
He Talked With Me ProfessorGAC May 2021 #42
Well good for you. murielm99 May 2021 #43
All We Can Do ProfessorGAC May 2021 #44
"Weak"? How about delusional, misguided, paranoid? bucolic_frolic May 2021 #11
Power, wealth... - No one says no to Pappy O'Trump. Pinback May 2021 #12
McCarthy evidently has no ability for lunatica May 2021 #15
He has always been a major ass kisser. nt oldsoftie May 2021 #17
He's a toady. Probatim May 2021 #24
I bet privately most would say they cant stand trump. oldsoftie May 2021 #16
all those Rethug Trump public ass-lickers are terrified of.... Celerity May 2021 #29
Is she sticking her tongue out?? Ehhh.... oldsoftie May 2021 #31
I don't like to engage in too much wishful thinking, but it's... NNadir May 2021 #18
Maybe the caucus should consider voting McCarthy out as leader. LiberalFighter May 2021 #19
McCarthy wants the Speaker's gavel so so so bad! ShazzieB May 2021 #20
A vote of no confidence in McCarthy? Love it! machoneman May 2021 #21
he's a dittohead and the guy who supplied his talking points croaked certainot May 2021 #22
Weak leadership. Weak morals. Weak party (R) Champp May 2021 #30
Weak? Johnny2X2X May 2021 #32
If they're mad at McCarthy Jilly_in_VA May 2021 #35
When push comes to shove, they'll toe the line. patphil May 2021 #36
McCarthy needs to have his ego shrunk bucolic_frolic May 2021 #37

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Odd, innit?
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:34 PM
May 2021

All these bold dissenters from McCarthy's "leadership," but they can't quite see their way clear to be quoted by name. Reminds me of visiting some friends who had tween kids, and Rebecca came downstairs and complained, "Mom! Aaron called me a tattle tale." Current members of the House Republican Caucus haven't advanced beyond this juvenile stage.

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
26. Good one, and you are 100% right. Republicans are such cowards, no spine, no dignity, nothing
Tue May 11, 2021, 03:53 PM
May 2021

Useless SOBs, 97% of them.

I try to understand what the attraction to that party and those people are, and I can't come up with any answers. And no one can tell me that it is the new republican party, because it is not true, they have always been what they are today, its just that now they don't even care to pretend.

SWBTATTReg

(22,158 posts)
2. That's what I would think if I were a moderate republican...you supported a party all of your life
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:09 PM
May 2021

(especially her with her dad being so prominent in the republican party too) and then somehow all is totally forgotten, memories lapse, etc. What a scumbag party. It's the worse kind of zero leadership (and what do you expect from mccarthy, he's a worthless Russian toadie)...

RockRaven

(14,992 posts)
3. These cowards aren't going to oust him though, so I'm not sure they should be
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:10 PM
May 2021

throwing around complaints about weakness. Look in a damn mirror.

Well, I suppose nobody should expect consistency or non-hypocrisy from GrOPers.

elleng

(131,085 posts)
5. 'there's growing unrest in the ranks among the GOP House caucus over the whole episode.'
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:21 PM
May 2021

“Kevin McCarthy has pissed off enough members of his own conference that he’s going to have to go back to his former days as a whip to try to figure out where his votes are [to become speaker],”

Comfortably_Numb

(3,819 posts)
6. Republicans have sold their souls ( if they ever had one) for a drink of the MAGA kool aide.
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:43 PM
May 2021

“Growing unrest.” Sound and fury signifying nothing... they’ll line up to kiss trump’s ass because that’s who they are.

lame54

(35,321 posts)
7. It would be amazing if she survived...
Tue May 11, 2021, 01:55 PM
May 2021

No love for her but

Trump would be livid and his future would look bleak

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
23. I had the same thought - he's a saner appearing version of Rick Santorum.
Tue May 11, 2021, 03:37 PM
May 2021

Just biding his time for a run for President.

ProfessorGAC

(65,163 posts)
38. Or Illinois Governor
Wed May 12, 2021, 06:05 PM
May 2021

I know him a bit. He's very ambitious, he's a ridiculous fiscal conservative, but he's not nuts.
An "almost" nut was governor before Pritzker, and it didn't go well for the state, business wise & for the citizenry.
The bad taste is still in the mouths of many moderates and indies.
So, being a pol who has a track record of not hanging with the crazies fits his ambition.

murielm99

(30,761 posts)
40. I went to his so-called town hall a year ago.
Thu May 13, 2021, 06:52 AM
May 2021

He does not meet with anyone who questions his voting record or his motives. He talks about what he wants to talk about. He will not even face anyone who questions him or his record.

I wish we could find a way to oppose him. He will keep his district, and it will be redder than ever here.

They will get rid of Mary Miller, Rodney Davis or Darin LaHood.

ProfessorGAC

(65,163 posts)
42. He Talked With Me
Thu May 13, 2021, 07:32 AM
May 2021

A lot. And, it was pretty clear we disagree on things.
Losing that chunk of Will County in the redistricting made getting a D in that seat much harder than it used to be.
BTW: there's a RWNJ on the way to the golf course that has a "Say No To Kinzinger" sign at the end of his drive. Now, the sign looks like it was made by a 4 year old, but it's there.
But, I still don't think there's enough full-on crazy in this district to displace him from the right. He's been primaries twice because of his separation from the teabagger crazies. It was money wasted.
If he wants that seat, it's his for a while.

murielm99

(30,761 posts)
43. Well good for you.
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:08 AM
May 2021

Activists in Lee and Ogle counties have tried many times to speak to him. We do it as groups, and as individuals. We try to be non-threatening, and he still rebuffs us, as individuals and as a group.

The redistricting is going to shave off parts of Rockford and other blue areas. If we are not stuck with him, it may be someone worse. We will keep working against him anyway.

ProfessorGAC

(65,163 posts)
44. All We Can Do
Thu May 13, 2021, 11:57 AM
May 2021

I'm not optimistic though. Grundy & Kendall are in the bag for Rs. Proof is state senator Sue Rezin.
Privileged twit who has to wear slip-ons because she can't tie her own shoes. Won by 25%

bucolic_frolic

(43,277 posts)
11. "Weak"? How about delusional, misguided, paranoid?
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:18 PM
May 2021

Ejecting a competent politician in her own right, let alone the daughter of a former 2 term VP with an extensive resume in government service. It's just crazy. I disagree with everything the Cheney's do. But the elder had accomplishments, even if he was snarly, nasty, angry, and skewed to the far right of his day.

Pinback

(12,165 posts)
12. Power, wealth... - No one says no to Pappy O'Trump.
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:23 PM
May 2021

"Not with his blandishments. - And powers of persuasion."



- from O, Brother, Where Art Thou? of course.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. McCarthy evidently has no ability for
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:36 PM
May 2021

Proactive thinking. He’s doing the firing for his big boss because the big boss no longer has the power to do it himself. He’s a lapdog/attack dog combination. A thug in other words. His big boss’ latest enforcer, seemingly unaware of the long line of previous enforcers who have been paying the karmic price for what they were willing to do. He’ll pay too. Trump will kick him under the bus too at some point.

oldsoftie

(12,593 posts)
16. I bet privately most would say they cant stand trump.
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:39 PM
May 2021

But in public the total opposite.
I know a few like that. Used to be Trump voters, but privately they tell me that if their friends REALLY knew what they thought it would cause all kinds of problems.

NNadir

(33,542 posts)
18. I don't like to engage in too much wishful thinking, but it's...
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:40 PM
May 2021

...possible the Republican Party may splinter in to two parties, the woo woo Party and a less insane Party of cold hearted people whose God is not Trump but rather Ayn Rand.

I do hope for a sane opposition against whom we can rationally test ourselves, but there don't seem to be too many left in this mob of crazies who can fit the bill.

ShazzieB

(16,499 posts)
20. McCarthy wants the Speaker's gavel so so so bad!
Tue May 11, 2021, 02:48 PM
May 2021

And he thinks kissing up to Trump is the way to win back the House for the QOP in 2022, so he has hitched his wagon to the big orange star.

With any luck, it'll blow up in his face big time. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Champp

(2,114 posts)
30. Weak leadership. Weak morals. Weak party (R)
Tue May 11, 2021, 04:38 PM
May 2021

republican weaklings are messing up America with their lack of morals and ethics.

patphil

(6,206 posts)
36. When push comes to shove, they'll toe the line.
Wed May 12, 2021, 03:06 PM
May 2021

Talk is cheap, but actions have a real price. A price almost none of them are willing to pay.
They'll do what McCarthy tells them to do.
Spineless, self-serving cowards all.

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