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hookaleft

(938 posts)
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:20 PM May 2021

This is not the Republican party that I have loathed over the last 30 years....

This is a whole new animal. I thought Dubya and Cheney were the spawn of satan. I never imagined that sh*t would get this crazy!!?? I don't recognize this country anymore. The tea party was irritating AF but these people are animals....

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This is not the Republican party that I have loathed over the last 30 years.... (Original Post) hookaleft May 2021 OP
They are fascists. madaboutharry May 2021 #1
That's it in a nutshell. KS Toronado May 2021 #13
They had terrible ideas before, but this group has gone completely off the rails Rhiannon12866 May 2021 #2
They have tapped into a group highly susceptible to authoritarianism. nt RegularJam May 2021 #3
It's the Party of Trump. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #4
Trump is just another loser, this is the party of Putin RainCaster May 2021 #10
That too. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #14
never, EVER assume repukes cannot get worse or go lower Skittles May 2021 #5
Miss 911 Warnings, Lie US into war with Iraq, Financial Crash, Hate Black President, Solicited & ... uponit7771 May 2021 #6
Yep Hekate May 2021 #7
Link to the decline in church attendance? Hippo_The_Pointer May 2021 #8
Welcome to DU Hippo......keep pointing KS Toronado May 2021 #11
Welcome to DU, Hippo_The_Pointer. littlemissmartypants May 2021 #15
In addition... Duppers May 2021 #19
These MAGAs were the Tea Party JohnnyRingo May 2021 #9
True, back in 1976 our next door neighbor was a loud mouth re-enacter. Jon King May 2021 #17
They have gotten progressively worse. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #12
Same people as before but now very desperate due to changing demographics. Jon King May 2021 #16
Our high school in CA proposed an ethnic studies elective and crazy Trumpers threatened the school. SunSeeker May 2021 #18
They had a taste of fascism and loved it dalton99a May 2021 #20
It's like the 700 Club went to Washington pecosbob May 2021 #21
They have become a reinactment of "Lord of the Flies." GoCubsGo May 2021 #22

Rhiannon12866

(205,289 posts)
2. They had terrible ideas before, but this group has gone completely off the rails
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:25 PM
May 2021

Supporting those who encouraged sedition and violence and promoting dangerous and anti Democratic lies.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
4. It's the Party of Trump.
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:27 PM
May 2021

Whack jobs will primary intelligent Republicans. This is the future of the Trump Republican Party.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
14. That too.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:10 AM
May 2021

But the idiots who think Trump is god's gift to the American people disagree. They are incapable of connecting the dots that Trump is owned by Putin.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. Miss 911 Warnings, Lie US into war with Iraq, Financial Crash, Hate Black President, Solicited & ...
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:25 PM
May 2021

... Accepted Help From Russia to win Election, Destroy Post Office, Kill 500k Americans ...

If a foreign country had done these things in 1980 we'd be at war with them

8. Link to the decline in church attendance?
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:42 PM
May 2021

It certainly seems to be a different beast from where we were at 30 years ago. Here's a somewhat off the beaten track theory: The problem lies in the decline in Christianity!

As likely many DUers are aware Christianity in the USA has been in decline for many years. The so called high-church (the well established traditional Christian denominations with highly structured liturgy) have seen significant decline in attendance since the 1980's. In response they have softened their doctrine in an attempt to make things more palatable to a broader audience (e.g. become more amenable to liberal social thinking - ordining women, acceptance of gay marriage, etc). Presumably the hope was that that would stop the decline.

The other main form of Christian church in the US is the evangelicals. They typically have less structured liturgy and less centralized leadership structures (if any centralized structure at all). These churches are the ones that grew as the baby boomers entered their adult life in the 1970's on-wards. In the face of declining Christian numbers, these evangelical churches have done the opposite of the high-church. Instead of softening their doctrine they have clung to the more 'traditional' values. Essentially they have hardened their doctrine. No wedding cakes for you gay couples is a classic example. That stance is then attracting traditionalists away from high-church and into the evangelical church. And it works. The evangelicals have managed to keep their attendance numbers roughly stable in the last 20 years.

The hardening sees the evangelicals decoupling from where mainstream society is moving. That has opened the door for the "longing for the past" syndrome that is the underpinning of the MAGA movement.

Recognizing the harden as a business opportunity the likes of Murdoch and Sinclair have been more than happy to feed it and sustain it. From there the GOP then see it as a voting block they can dominate. Foreign nations look for influence are then more than happy to fund the GOP in the hope of gain should a republican president be elected.

Those external parties are then creating a bubble around the evangelical church. Every one watches the same news, listens to the same radio and socializes with each other. Those inside the bubble become increasingly cut off from reality. From their craziness is acceptable - As long as you hate the liberals you are a part of the team and even if you are a bit crazy at least you are not a liberal (speaking from the right wingers perspective here).

The thoughts of a rambling Hippo - The Hippo

littlemissmartypants

(22,649 posts)
15. Welcome to DU, Hippo_The_Pointer.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:33 AM
May 2021

This would make a great O P. If you are able to start one I think it would be a great contribution.

❤ pants

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
19. In addition...
Wed May 12, 2021, 02:27 AM
May 2021

There's a large organization of atheists in a red southern city in a very red southern state. Used to be a member until I discovered their political insanity. Evangelical churches aren't the only morons.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
9. These MAGAs were the Tea Party
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:07 AM
May 2021

They've grown up and become more obstinate and more selfish.

They never cared about "taxed enough already". They were the grassroots of Racist America from the Obama years who found newborn kindred spirits in Trump. He progressed them from tri-corne hats to the white hoods they felt more comfortable in.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
17. True, back in 1976 our next door neighbor was a loud mouth re-enacter.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:38 AM
May 2021

He did the whole dress up stuff with the tri hat and nasty attitude. He died recently in his late 80s, a huge Trumper at the end. These lunatics have been around for a long time.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
12. They have gotten progressively worse.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:08 AM
May 2021

I really thought the Party - post Nixon - would be a better Party.......I liked guys like Oklahoman Fred Harris who broached the idea of making OPEC countries pay for US military assets that protected their product to market. Plus he brought a keg to his rally at my school. I liked that.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
16. Same people as before but now very desperate due to changing demographics.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:35 AM
May 2021

They were always evil. Now that evil is combined with the realization that America is truly changing in their life times. This is desperate people clinging to the past by any means they can....lying cheating, denying reality.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
18. Our high school in CA proposed an ethnic studies elective and crazy Trumpers threatened the school.
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:50 AM
May 2021

The School.Board then decided to have a public neeting to discuss the proposed class and make clear it would not "teach kids to hate America," that it would be an elective class and nobody would be required to take it. The threats only got worse, and the police advised the school board to hold a virtual instead of in person meeting, for security reasons. A bunch of Proud Boy freaks still showed up at the School Board to protest while the virtual meeting was going on.

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/05/10/police-advise-los-alamitos-school-board-to-go-virtual-as-anger-grows-in-social-justice-debate


pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
21. It's like the 700 Club went to Washington
Wed May 12, 2021, 07:08 AM
May 2021

Some, like McCarthy and Cruz are just new political televangelists selling increasingly cray-cray messaging to their increasingly cray-cray base. A couple like MTG and Boebert are truly out there.

It's the profit above all else, the end always justifies the means, a world hegemony safe for capitalism and KFC types that scare me.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
22. They have become a reinactment of "Lord of the Flies."
Wed May 12, 2021, 07:19 AM
May 2021

It remains to be seen whether or not they get rescued, though. Or, who else they'll take out in the meantime.

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