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A nightmare scenario is becoming more likely: A GOP Congress overriding the 2024 presidential election results.
Opinion | The Republican plot to steal the 2024 election
A nightmare scenario is becoming more likely: A GOP-led Congress overriding the 2024 election results.
washingtonpost.com
11:28 AM · Jun 1, 2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/01/republican-plot-steal-2024-election/
Republicans have spent nearly seven months making bogus charges of fraud in the 2020 election under the banner of stop the steal. Now they have segued into a start the steal offensive to ensure that they will win the 2022 and 2024 elections even if most voters once again support the Democratic Party.
The Brennan Center for Justice reports that between January 1 and May 14, 2021, at least 14 states enacted 22 new laws that restrict access to the vote and at least 61 bills with restrictive provisions are moving through 18 state legislatures. Those bills are designed not to avert nonexistent voter fraud but to avert another election defeat for Republicans and they are drawing perilously close to that goal.
In Georgia, for example, a new law stipulates that mobile voting stations shall only be used in emergencies declared by the Governor, who is a Republican. That will put out of business two mobile voting units a.k.a. buses that collected 11,200 ballots in Atlantas Fulton County in November. Also, under the new law, provisional ballots will no longer be accepted from voters who go to the wrong polling place; 11,120 provisional ballots were counted in November. Combined, writes my Post colleague David Weigel, the ballots cast by both methods are nearly double the margin by which [Joe] Biden won Georgia.
A new election law in Texas, which has been temporarily blocked by a walkout of Democrats from the state House, would outlaw many of the methods used to increase minority turnout, such as drive-through voting and early voting before 1 p.m. on Sundays (crimping souls to the polls events after church services). But the most alarming element of the bill is that it makes it easier to overturn election results even if there is no evidence that fraud affected the outcome.
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TomDaisy
(1,900 posts)Bev54
(10,072 posts)Bayard
(22,149 posts)Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)eallen
(2,954 posts)It doesn't even require a popular election.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)want to make it legal for state legislators to overrule the will of the people along with the electors. President by fiat. THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY!
PortTack
(32,793 posts)In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state.
This article is a breakdown of a SCOTUS ruling 7/2020
More at the link
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)Neither one good.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Not a chance in hell that either one of them is going to be cuffs by 24 let alone 22. If we base our actions on wishes and dreams like that we are for sure deserving of what we will get. If Biden and Schumer don't start moving and stop with the bipartisan crap it's over as you and I know it. Just sayin...
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)god i hate to admit when i'm wrong , but , you soooo rite on this one !!!
The Dems need to get serious really quick......now is not the time to take the high road or play patty-cake.
The Repubs are utilizing guerrilla warfare............they are pulling all stops and coming full steam ahead with everything they've got...
jalan48
(13,883 posts)ancianita
(36,133 posts)Off-year elections are always tough for the party in power. This one will be tougher still because of Republican-driven voter suppression, reapportionment and gerrymandering. Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report writes that Republicans will have full authority to redraw 187 congressional districts, while Democrats will control just 75. He estimates that redistricting in just four states Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina could be enough to deliver the House to Republican control.
Looks like if they have "full authority" to redraw double the number of districts that we have, they actually don't have to 'steal.' Just suppress.
What's worse is at the federal level.
Many congressional Republicans will refuse to certify a 2024 Democratic win in swing states. If Republicans control Congress, they could deny the Democrats an electoral college majority and throw the election to the House where each state delegation, regardless of population, would cast one ballot. Given that Republicans already control a majority of state delegations, they could override the election outcome. If that happens, it would spell the end of American democracy.
PortTack
(32,793 posts)https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf#page9
The unusual act of the election being thrown to the states has happened one time back in the mid 1800s. The first link addresses this as well
ancianita
(36,133 posts)wnylib
(21,606 posts)tourist visits of DC?
Asking for 81million friends.
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,581 posts)Doesn't matter if we don't storm the Capitol. Doesn't matter if we occupy the streets.
The Republicans will come after us full-bore if the Democrats in the Senate don't get their act together and change the filibuster rule to put a stop to voter suppression laws AND if the Democratic-controlled Congress or the DOJ doesn't prosecute the real seditionists. This is a 10-alarm fire in the making, and just thinking that if we get out the vote in '22 or '24 or elect more senators to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant is not going to save this country. The Senate Democrats not us need to do the job we elected them to do.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)All I am saying is that:
That only works when the politicians fear the voters throwing them out. Now? You really think that the GQP gives any fucks about how many people might march and protest? They did not care in '02 (Iraq), they did not care in '09 (Banking Implosion), they did not care in '16 (Though the Pink hats were cool), '18 (Parkland...any new gun laws come out of that? nope...) , or '20 (How much REAL police reform has happened? and how much have 'antifa' and 'BLM' become fund raising boogeymen for the right? The two are inversely proportional...)
They do not care right now, they really never cared too much to begin with, but now they are setting up the failed slow motion coup of Trump as the rallying cry for their overt overthrow of democracy.
Anyone readying for resistance without studying insurgencies, financial divestment and guerilla warfare is going to end up in gulags or "disappeared" in the world we are steaming towards right now. It is far scarier than many seem willing to believe.
Efilroft Sul
(3,581 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Holy S_ what a horrifying mess.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)The voters foresaw this and came out in droves to push the Democrats over the finish line. Dems took the House, the Senate and the White House. Dems have a mandate to turn back the fascist cancer devouring us from within.
Now is not the time to be politically calculating, ingratiating or bilateral. Now is the time to render a death blow.
Now.
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)2024 and 2026 will be the years to vote on them, if we arent already in a civil war.