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Romney hits 50% in Gallup (LVs) for the first time, up 50-46. That's the same lead as in PPP. (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 OP
That just makes me feel sick davekriss Oct 2012 #1
I ask the same question dennis4868 Oct 2012 #4
Let it go Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #7
Hold still, messenger. I have to take aim and your news is making me shaky Bucky Oct 2012 #2
Good for us in only one sense Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #3
so the glass is 1/2 full? dennis4868 Oct 2012 #5
There is no glass Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #11
Polls are meaningless! Obama will kick ass tonight and that is that. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #6
Cool, looks like Biden's debate performance ProSense Oct 2012 #8
Media spin is swaying the undecideds, sadly. :( reformist2 Oct 2012 #9
So the entire ProSense Oct 2012 #14
Aw, poop on that poll, and any poll I don't like. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #10
agreed! hrmjustin Oct 2012 #13
GOTV!!!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #12
Geez...I'm sorry TPM, but that is totally misleading.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #15
"There is ZERO chance that women and Latinos are now basically tied or voting for Romney. ZERO" ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #17
Unfortunately, Gallup is using the same idiotic meme that Dem Likely Voters are "less.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #19
National poll? aquart Oct 2012 #16
Real Clear Politics has Mitt up .6 over Obama Kalidurga Oct 2012 #18
Yup, enjoy it Mittens, this is the best day you're ever going to have, you TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #20

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)
3. Good for us in only one sense
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:09 PM
Oct 2012

The gap will never get bigger than this. May be possible to build a "closing narrative"

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
9. Media spin is swaying the undecideds, sadly. :(
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

The bright side of this is that these undecided voters can be swayed *back* to Obama just as easily. That's why tonight's debate - and the spin that follows - is huge. It's probably no exaggeration to say this is the most important night of the entire campaign.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. So the entire
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

election is based on tonight's debate?

Seriously, Kerry won every debate and saw no such swing, much less a permanent one.

Mitt's alleged debate bounce is inconsistent (not showing up in every poll, and some polls show it ending) and likely more than any other candidate including Clinton.

Gallup showed the numbers trending back to Obama, and now it's moving back to Mitt?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
15. Geez...I'm sorry TPM, but that is totally misleading....
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

...I'll say the same thing I said in the earlier thread on this topic:

1. There is ZERO chance that women and Latinos are now basically tied or voting for Romney. ZERO.

2. The pollsters switched to Likely Voters (LVs) from Registered Voters (RVs) about a week and a half ago, and then began claiming that Dem LVs are less likely to vote than GOP LVs because they are "less enthusiastic" voters. Seriously?? Women and Latinos have a lot to lose in this election and the pollster's are going to tell me that they're "less enthusiastic"???

Josh should have known better in regards to using some of the polls in his article.

Here's a breakdown of the polls being used:

Credible Polls:
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PPP (D)
NBC/Marist
SurveyUSA (Sponsored by WCMH-TV Columbus )
CNN
Columbus Dispatch
Quinnipiac/CBS/NYT
WaPo

Not Credible Polls (sponsored by right-wing groups):
-----------------------------------------------------

Zogby * (Sponsored by Newsmax!!!!)
Gravis Marketing (this polling "group" has been THOROUGHLY debunked on DU!!!!!)
Rasmussen (!!!!)
Pulse Opinion Research (Sponsored by Let Freedom Ring!!!!)
Wenzel Strategies (R) (Sponsored by Citizens United!!!!)
We Ask America (!!!!)

Unknown Affiliation:
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American Research Group

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
17. "There is ZERO chance that women and Latinos are now basically tied or voting for Romney. ZERO"
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:25 PM
Oct 2012

I agree w/ that. There's just NO. FREAKING. WAY.

Where is Gallup in all this ie: are they credible or not?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
19. Unfortunately, Gallup is using the same idiotic meme that Dem Likely Voters are "less....
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:31 PM
Oct 2012

....enthusiastic" than GOP Likely Voters and therefore less likely to vote. Complete crap. All the Dems I know are foaming at the mouth to clean Mitt's clock.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
18. Real Clear Politics has Mitt up .6 over Obama
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

Which means he has lost ground in Real Clear Politics poll average. It was up 1.3 Mitt over Obama just a day or two ago. I think Mitt's bounce is over and the polls will swing to Obama now.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
20. Yup, enjoy it Mittens, this is the best day you're ever going to have, you
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
Oct 2012

flim-flamming asswipe waste of carbon.

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