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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:46 AM Jun 2021

Why are people receiving Social Security taxed,

When the wealthiest people pay zero? Everyone should ask their members of Congress why that is allowed, and who will vote to change it. Especially now as prices are jumping up higher.

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Why are people receiving Social Security taxed, (Original Post) duforsure Jun 2021 OP
What the Rich Don't Want to Admit About the Poor elleng Jun 2021 #1
I listen NJCher Jun 2021 #4
Ronald Reagan BillyBobBrilliant Jun 2021 #2
Addendum: 634-5789 Jun 2021 #3
Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2021 #6
This!👆 SheltieLover Jun 2021 #8
he taxed unemployment in that same bill WhiteTara Jun 2021 #11
We controlled The House by a large majority. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2021 #14
Because tip O'Neal and Ronnie struck a deal. Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #5
It mainly penalizes those with pensions or who have saved for retirement Klaralven Jun 2021 #7
The same reason credit card interest is no longer tax deductible. GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #9
My ex father in law voted for Obama LittleGirl Jun 2021 #10
Many receiving SS ARE wealthy so they are taxed. pidge Jun 2021 #12
Ummmm... ruet Jun 2021 #15
You can thank Reagan the Monster Doremus Jun 2021 #13
Back door partial means testing of SS Cicada Jun 2021 #16
I have income from Social Security, two annuities, PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #17

elleng

(130,895 posts)
1. What the Rich Don't Want to Admit About the Poor
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 04:55 AM
Jun 2021

by Ezra Klein

'I’m not going to pretend that I know how to interpret the jobs and inflation data of the past few months. My view is that this is still an economy warped by the pandemic, and that the dynamics are so strange and so unstable that it will be some time before we know its true state. But the reaction to the early numbers and anecdotes has revealed something deeper and more constant in our politics.

The American economy runs on poverty, or at least the constant threat of it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016295071

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
3. Addendum:
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:05 AM
Jun 2021

Reagan also was anti-union, anti middle class and had the same underlying power of tRump for the drooling morons who believed in him.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
14. We controlled The House by a large majority.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:43 AM
Jun 2021

That legislation passed with large bipartisan support. Including a yes vote by our current President.


Yes, “Saint Ronnie” signed it but he had plenty of support from both sides of the aisle.

Voltaire2

(13,027 posts)
5. Because tip O'Neal and Ronnie struck a deal.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 05:44 AM
Jun 2021

Not only are we taxed, but the income threshold was set in 1983, and has never been inflation adjusted. It is massive bullshit.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. It mainly penalizes those with pensions or who have saved for retirement
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 06:59 AM
Jun 2021

If your only retirement income is Social Security, then your income is so low that the tax is fairly small.

If you have other income in retirement, such as pensions, withdrawals from IRAs, etc. then Social Security is taxed at a higher rated depending on your total income.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
10. My ex father in law voted for Obama
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 07:37 AM
Jun 2021

Because he Obama said SS income less than 50k would stop getting taxed.
He was very upset it wasn’t done.
Maybe now?

ruet

(10,039 posts)
15. Ummmm...
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:45 AM
Jun 2021

On the withholding side, you do not pay SS tax on any income over $143k. This is regressive and the amount they get on the back end is minuscule by comparison.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
13. You can thank Reagan the Monster
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jun 2021

Before he lowered the ax on old folks, our SS checks were tax-free just as they should be.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
16. Back door partial means testing of SS
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jun 2021

The formula, part of the Pretty great Tax Reform Act of 1986, has a sneaky feature. The exemption amounts are not adjusted for inflation. A single taxpayer pays tax only when non social security income exceeds $25,000. In 1986 few hit that level. Now many do. Each year the soc sec tax goes up a bit. Because of inflation.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
17. I have income from Social Security, two annuities,
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jun 2021

a tiny pension, and what I take from my investments. It's still low enough that my taxes are very low.

While I agree that rich people should definitely be paying more, it's not as though those paying taxes on their SS are in dire poverty. They're taking home enough to be paying taxes.

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