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Nevilledog

(51,274 posts)
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:12 PM Jun 2021

A bloodbath of the unvaccinated in a Florida IT department.





https://www.bradenton.com/news/coronavirus/article252212853.html

A COVID-19 outbreak that killed two IT staffers in Manatee County government and hospitalized three others has forced the shutdown of the county’s administrative building in downtown Bradenton.

At 2:30 p.m., the county announced on Facebook that it was immediately shutting down the building to the public and sending employees home. Epidemiologists with the Florida Department of Health of Manatee County are now working on contract tracing.

“It’s been devastating to staff and it’s been difficult for the organization,” County Administrator Scott Hopes said. “The SARS virus is still in our community and the vaccine protects people.”

On Monday, one of four IT staffers who had been hospitalized with COVID-19 died, according to Hopes. A fifth IT staffer who went to the doctor on Wednesday, died at home Thursday from COVID-19.

One staffer in the department who worked closely with the other five and didn’t contract the coronavirus was vaccinated. All five who contracted the virus had a sore throat as their initial primary complaint.

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A bloodbath of the unvaccinated in a Florida IT department. (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2021 OP
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Initech Jun 2021 #1
This Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #35
Just a coincidence, I'm sure gratuitous Jun 2021 #2
Or they'll say the vaccinated person shed the virus and killed everyone else. Nevilledog Jun 2021 #3
No, no, no! You've got it all wrong! MerryHolidays Jun 2021 #41
Local news is reporting these were "younger" people. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2021 #4
Well, well, well: tanyev Jun 2021 #5
A bit late Rebl2 Jun 2021 #8
And yet still a good thing. Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #24
Damn right Retired Engineer Bob Jun 2021 #46
I guess they didn't fare well with Covid Roulette... Deuce Jun 2021 #6
The official even called it the "sars" virus. Still so uninformed ... brush Jun 2021 #14
SARS-CoV-2 is official name. Maggiemayhem Jun 2021 #19
I think we all know that as most call it covid-19 to distinguish it... brush Jun 2021 #27
No one wants to incur the wrath.. SergeStorms Jun 2021 #21
Nothin wrong with that - SARS is part if its formal name. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #30
Never mind. The point is no one calls it sars, it's called covid-19... brush Jun 2021 #33
Post 22 is about hacking. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #34
Never mind. The point is no one calls it sars, it's called covid-19... brush Jun 2021 #36
Most of the medical articles I read call is SARS COV-2. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #39
What is it called most often by DUers, people in general and the media? brush Jun 2021 #42
DU - likely COVID or Coronavirus Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #43
Somebody is uninformed if there's a breakout of infections and death... brush Jun 2021 #44
What's that got to do with the fact that Mr. Hopes correctly identified Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #47
Once again, see post 45. brush Jun 2021 #48
No need. It changes nothing. Mr Hopes was correct, you Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #49
I think you are the one that's wrong. Covid is what most people use. brush Jun 2021 #51
Well. I read so Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #52
Someone - but the person in the video disagreed with the decision. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #53
I know Dr. Hopes GOFM Jun 2021 #37
But that an accurate identification of the Virus. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #38
Wouldn't using the term most used by people and the media... brush Jun 2021 #45
I feel for the families of these suicides Willis88 Jun 2021 #7
You said it well. Delphinus Jun 2021 #11
Thanks! Willis88 Jun 2021 #25
Live by the sword, die by the sword. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #9
Kick dalton99a Jun 2021 #10
Oh yeah. Sounds like delta. wnylib Jun 2021 #54
Did they have antivirus installed on their IT systems? Captain Zero Jun 2021 #12
Too soon? I think not. mjvpi Jun 2021 #13
Their computers are now very vulnerable to hacking jmbar2 Jun 2021 #22
"All five who contracted the virus had a sore throat" BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #15
My partner had it. It raging over here. róisín_dubh Jun 2021 #40
thinning the herd of ignoramuses NewHendoLib Jun 2021 #16
Not getting vaccinated while likely overweight or otherwise unhealthy to begin with.... Jon King Jun 2021 #17
Darwin strikes weissmam Jun 2021 #18
Red states are nearly all at the bottom of percentages of full or first shot vaccinated. patphil Jun 2021 #20
This should be national news. mia Jun 2021 #23
Clearly it is the buildings fault. pwb Jun 2021 #26
Idiots - they are re-implementing masking protocols - Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #28
My work is still observing masking and sanitation. 10 people haven't vaccinated, for whatever reason NBachers Jun 2021 #29
Culling the herd. East-A-Squared Jun 2021 #31
Wait until this Fall / Winter. paleotn Jun 2021 #32
Sore throat as initial primary complaint. Interesting. Hortensis Jun 2021 #50

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Just a coincidence, I'm sure
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jun 2021

Five people got Covid and none of them were vaccinated. One person in the same department who didn't get sick was vaccinated. Just a coincidence, we'll be told.

Nevilledog

(51,274 posts)
3. Or they'll say the vaccinated person shed the virus and killed everyone else.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:26 PM
Jun 2021

Is that insane? Yes

Will they claim this? Also yes

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
41. No, no, no! You've got it all wrong!
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jun 2021

The vaccinated person was, of course, magnetized. And everyone knows that "them covid bugs" have little pieces of metal in them and were pulled into infect these folks.

The vaxed person caused this! And covid is a hoax anyway!



I am assuming Governor Death Sentence is indirectly the inspiration for tales of woe like this?

tanyev

(42,669 posts)
5. Well, well, well:
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:40 PM
Jun 2021
On Friday, however, one commissioner who hadn’t been interested in the vaccine left Hopes’ office and immediately went to get vaccinated, according to Hopes.

Maru Kitteh

(28,345 posts)
24. And yet still a good thing.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:26 PM
Jun 2021

We need many, many more to have this epiphany.



I don't want to pay their damn medical bills.





brush

(53,971 posts)
14. The official even called it the "sars" virus. Still so uninformed ...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jun 2021

after a hear and a half of covid he still doesn't get what the whole shutdown and masks and vaccinations is about.

brush

(53,971 posts)
27. I think we all know that as most call it covid-19 to distinguish it...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:39 PM
Jun 2021

from the sars virus earlier in the 2000s.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
21. No one wants to incur the wrath..
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

of Governor DeSatan, or the orange gas bag, wherever he's hanging his hat this weekend. I'm a little surprised they haven't been given orders to call it the "Chy-na" virus, or "kung-flu". It's all a big joke you know, until you find yourself in an IC ward fighting for your life.

Pretty much every death from COVID from now on will be a Trump-humper. So I guess there is a silver lining.

brush

(53,971 posts)
33. Never mind. The point is no one calls it sars, it's called covid-19...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

to distinguish it from the sars virus earlier in the century.

brush

(53,971 posts)
36. Never mind. The point is no one calls it sars, it's called covid-19...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jun 2021

to distinguish it from the sars virus earlier in the century.

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
39. Most of the medical articles I read call is SARS COV-2.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 01:22 AM
Jun 2021

The COV-2 distinguish it from the earlier variations of SARS. (A search of pubmed generates nearly 90,000 articles.)

brush

(53,971 posts)
42. What is it called most often by DUers, people in general and the media?
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jun 2021

For example, here are some OP titles from just a quick glance at DU's latest threads today. Let's be real.

A COVID Outbreak At The U.S. Embassy In Kabul Has Sickened 114 People And Killed 1

A Pill to Treat Covid-19? The U.S. Is Betting on It.

A warning...Covid and opening up

COVID-19 Vaccine Day Almost Here

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
43. DU - likely COVID or Coronavirus
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jun 2021

Media - Mixed, including SARS COV-2

But your point was that he was "uninformed." It's the distinction between calling a disease measles and calling it rubeola. One is a lay person's name for it, the other is the scientific name. Since those studying the impact of the disease (science and medical sources) fairly routinely refer to it as SARS COV-2, I'd hardly call it uninformed to use its scientific name.

brush

(53,971 posts)
44. Somebody is uninformed if there's a breakout of infections and death...
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jun 2021

in an office staff at this late date in the covid pandemic...and the entire building had to be shut down.

That's really being informed and keeping staff safe and informed and vaccinated.

Somebody dropped the ball.

Maru Kitteh

(28,345 posts)
47. What's that got to do with the fact that Mr. Hopes correctly identified
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jun 2021

the virus as a SARS virus and you were apparently mistaken?

It's actually easier to just admit your error. Feels better too. Nothing wrong with being wrong.






Maru Kitteh

(28,345 posts)
49. No need. It changes nothing. Mr Hopes was correct, you
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 09:44 PM
Jun 2021

were mistaken, and it seems to be a point of difficulty for you.


brush

(53,971 posts)
51. I think you are the one that's wrong. Covid is what most people use.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 09:49 PM
Jun 2021

Probably you yourself.

Now I'm through with you.

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
53. Someone - but the person in the video disagreed with the decision.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jun 2021

And while I agree that opening up on the honor system for mask wearing is assinine, I am in the minority - even on DU.

GOFM

(15 posts)
37. I know Dr. Hopes
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 11:59 PM
Jun 2021

He’s a medical doctor and epidemiologist. He’s been a vocal supporter of masks and vaccinations since the beginning, a somewhat controversial stance in our Trumpy part of Florida.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
38. But that an accurate identification of the Virus.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jun 2021

Last edited Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Don’t see any room for criticism when someone uses factual terms.

Maybe its the scientist in me.

brush

(53,971 posts)
45. Wouldn't using the term most used by people and the media...
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:57 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Sat Jun 19, 2021, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)

make more sense? Most people call it covid or covid-19 not sars.

Clarity in language avoids misunderstandings.

dalton99a

(81,683 posts)
10. Kick
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:35 PM
Jun 2021
Both staffers who have died, a man and a woman, were in their 50’s. Those who were hospitalized were as young as their late 30’s, according to Hopes, causing him concern that we could be seeing one of the stronger variants in these cases.

mjvpi

(1,406 posts)
13. Too soon? I think not.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jun 2021

I try to be empathetic, but damn these people. For a year and a half best science has been ignored. I feel sorry for their loved ones, but we all need to do our part to beat this thing. My state, Montana has been holding at 45% of the population vaccinated. It almost exactly matches the Trump margin of victory in our state. Oh, and fuckDonald Trump.

jmbar2

(4,917 posts)
22. Their computers are now very vulnerable to hacking
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

They should turn everything off until they replace the staffers with people who believe in antivirus protection.

That was a GREAT question for antivaxxers, BTW.

BumRushDaShow

(129,913 posts)
15. "All five who contracted the virus had a sore throat"
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:54 PM
Jun 2021

I saw recently that the Delta variant has apparently been triggering that particular symptom in the UK and it has been added to the list of COVID-19 possible symptoms. I.e., it is starting to manifest like the typical coronavirus seen in colds but is apparently much more lethal...

Delta variant Covid symptoms ‘include headaches, sore throat and runny nose’

Researchers warn that UK’s most widely established variant may be mistaken for milder illness

Natalie Grover Science correspondent
@NatalieGrover
Mon 14 Jun 2021 11.20 EDT

Last modified on Mon 14 Jun 2021 19.35 EDT

Headaches, a sore throat and a runny nose are the most common symptoms associated with the UK’s most widely established Covid variant, researchers have said. The data, collected as part of the app-based Zoe Covid symptom study, suggests that the Delta variant first detected in India feels like a “bad cold”, according to Tim Spector, a professor of genetic epidemiology at King’s College London, who is leading the work.

“Covid is … acting differently now, it’s more like a bad cold,” he said. “People might think they’ve just got some sort of seasonal cold, and they still go out to parties … we think this is fuelling a lot of the problem. So, what’s really important to realise is that since the start of May, we’ve been looking at the top symptoms in all the app users, and they’re not the same as they were. So, the number one symptom is headache … followed by sore throat, runny nose and fever.”

According to the NHS, the classic Covid symptoms are fever, cough and loss of smell or taste. Spector said that with Delta, a cough appears to be the fifth most common symptom, and the loss of smell doesn’t make the top 10. Data suggests that the Delta variant is at least 40% more transmissible than the Alpha variant first detected in Kent, and appears to double the risk of hospitalisation. It also renders vaccines somewhat less effective, particularly after only one dose.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/14/delta-variant-covid-symptoms-include-headaches-sore-throat-and-runny-nose

róisín_dubh

(11,802 posts)
40. My partner had it. It raging over here.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 02:15 AM
Jun 2021

Sore throat and headache, but no other symptoms.
Guess who didn’t get it? Me. Fully vaccinated.
The U.K. is really ramping up vaccines at the moment, which is good.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
17. Not getting vaccinated while likely overweight or otherwise unhealthy to begin with....
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jun 2021

These people made personal choices as adults. Choose not to get vaccinated, 80% plus chance they were overweight, 95% chance they were either overweight and/or another preexisting health condition, according to the statistics of who is still getting severe illness from Covid and are not very elderly.

It is what it is, drive down a crowded freeway cutting in and out of traffic on a motorcycle, or choose to not get a readily available vaccine, be around other people, while having preexisting risk factors. They made their choices.-

patphil

(6,242 posts)
20. Red states are nearly all at the bottom of percentages of full or first shot vaccinated.
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jun 2021

I expect this variant will take hold in those states over the summer. Could be a very selective surge in cases.
I wish they would wake up and protect themselves and their families.

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
28. Idiots - they are re-implementing masking protocols -
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jun 2021

but only for 2 weeks until the virus has cleared the building.

I guess this was a completely isolated occurrence - and there is no risk of it occurring again once this little bubble has passed.

NBachers

(17,182 posts)
29. My work is still observing masking and sanitation. 10 people haven't vaccinated, for whatever reason
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jun 2021

This is in California, which officially opened up a few days ago. But CalOsha is still recommending crowded retail establishments to observe protocol.

And the 10 people who refuse to vaccinate should be told to stay out of the store until they get both shots and can provide impeccable documentation.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Sore throat as initial primary complaint. Interesting.
Sat Jun 19, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jun 2021

Blood bath or whatever, here in GA @ 20K out of a 10M-population, or about 1 in 500, have died of Covid. If the possibility of death were greater, of course, far fewer people would be spreading the virus out of political spite.

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