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demmiblue

(36,885 posts)
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:15 AM Jun 2021

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner distance themselves from the former President and his constant compla

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner distance themselves from the former President and his constant complaints

(CNN)With each passing day away from Washington, former President Donald Trump's grievances continue unabated. And those complaints appear to be driving away two of the people who were closest to him during his White House tenure: his daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

Sometimes the former President complains for several hours about the "stolen" 2020 election. Other times, his frustrations emerge in fits and starts -- more likely when he is discussing his hopeful return to national politics. And while he often has a rotating audience of cheering listeners, the gap between Trump and his daughter and son-in-law grows wider by the week, according to 12 former Trump White House officials, former administration officials, family friends, acquaintances and members of Trump's team who spoke with CNN about changes to the former President's current inner circle.

A large part of the reason for the separation is Trump's constant harping on the past and his inability to move on. The former President has also started to question the role that Kushner -- one of the few people who were able to stay close to Trump throughout his two presidential campaigns and White House tenure -- has played in his presidential legacy.

Ivanka Trump has also struggled to undo the entanglements caused by the years at her father's side in the White House, as she seeks a less complicated life for her family, according to two acquaintances. They described her as having to walk a fine line between embracing her father and distancing herself from his election lies.

Having spent much of the last five-and-a-half years in close proximity to him, Ivanka Trump and Kushner were rarely seen with him in the months leading up to the former President's seasonal shift from living at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, to living in a cottage at his private golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner/index.html


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Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner distance themselves from the former President and his constant compla (Original Post) demmiblue Jun 2021 OP
Who would want to expose their children to this toxic monster? secondwind Jun 2021 #1
you think Ivanka/Jared agingdem Jun 2021 #11
Your so right. Expose the children? BradBo Jun 2021 #27
And the new neighbours do not want them either...they spent $700 million in a lot where Escurumbele Jun 2021 #33
You misconstrued my post. They are not good people, but even they secondwind Jun 2021 #45
Their version of "I only like soldiers who weren't captured" Tiger8 Jun 2021 #46
Even For Suck-Ups Like Those Two, Putting Up With Cheato Must Be A Real PITA nt smb Jun 2021 #28
Both Ivanka and Jared are hypocrites. no_hypocrisy Jun 2021 #2
Ivanka and Jared are terrible people. madaboutharry Jun 2021 #3
Yes this article was a total fluff piece Bev54 Jun 2021 #32
When are they going to prison is kacekwl Jun 2021 #4
Exactly. 2naSalit Jun 2021 #8
Fuck all of these people . If he had "won" they would be right there in the White House JI7 Jun 2021 #5
Where is Melania these days? Kingofalldems Jun 2021 #6
I really don't care, do you? 2naSalit Jun 2021 #9
I read she spends her days getting treatments at the spa ... SarcasticSatyr Jun 2021 #31
Only, if only, this was the soap opera only on TV it seems to be in life. marble falls Jun 2021 #7
Baloney. The distancing is totally self-serving. They're trying to rehabilitate their images. Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #10
As I was about to post an identical response, tavernier Jun 2021 #12
+1 chowder66 Jun 2021 #48
These reports on similar themes is pure poppycock msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #13
So their stabilizing influence is gone! nuxvomica Jun 2021 #14
Not buying it. They are as warped as Trump is. oasis Jun 2021 #15
Bullshit. Solly Mack Jun 2021 #16
I don't care, do you? cayugafalls Jun 2021 #17
... trusty elf Jun 2021 #18
They've got a knack for that. tanyev Jun 2021 #19
No longer profitable to hang around daddy, I guess... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #20
Just wait until the obese parasite.... Aviation Pro Jun 2021 #21
Ivanka & Tiffany will stay FAR away. oldsoftie Jun 2021 #22
I am waiting for Barron to get a call from Ron Reagan Thunderbeast Jun 2021 #38
They are all useless, but Ivanka and Jared have their own money, they don't have to suck up to him redstatebluegirl Jun 2021 #23
Let's be honest - they were all distant from one another pre-2016. They hate each other, Rabrrrrrr Jun 2021 #24
Melania will become the RW Jackie Onassis. Marcuse Jun 2021 #25
Fuck 'em - they are ALL trash. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2021 #26
Jarod got a book to sell Traildogbob Jun 2021 #29
He complains for several hours, and then GoCubsGo Jun 2021 #30
They can run but they can't hide! NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #34
Ivanka has always been close at hand for her Daddy. keithbvadu2 Jun 2021 #35
Oh boo hoo. PCIntern Jun 2021 #36
My take - the indictments are coming, thus the distance. Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #37
...and from humanity. Loge23 Jun 2021 #39
The Jarvanka Question: How do I rehab my image while also staying in Daddy's will? ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #40
Doesn't matter, they won't get a penny FakeNoose Jun 2021 #49
Fuck them. BlueIdaho Jun 2021 #41
They distance themselves from the mess they made only if the media allow it gratuitous Jun 2021 #42
Staying close liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2021 #43
Every time their name comes up... LiberatedUSA Jun 2021 #44
That shit stains AwakeAtLast Jun 2021 #47

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. Who would want to expose their children to this toxic monster?
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:20 AM
Jun 2021

Don’t blame them one bit. Not a fan of either, just thinking of the children.

agingdem

(7,857 posts)
11. you think Ivanka/Jared
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:53 AM
Jun 2021

are not as evil as Daddy (in-law) because of the children?...where have you been the last 5 years?? Ivanka/Jared are vapid, apathetic, grifters...they weren't the voices of reason they were Daddy's cheerleaders...neither one of those siliconed brainless mannequins have a scintilla of self-awareness...have you seen the January 6 videos of these two toxic Barbie dolls "enjoying the moment" with deranged Donnie as he spewed his Big Lie vomit to a violent mob, demanding they charge the capital and take back what was his?...and now they are keeping their distance..why?...because Donnie, an insane exiled despot, is of no use to the two reptilian opportunists, but most important, they are overtly un-welcomed and reviled in New York high society...and like the twice impeached one term orange cretin they, too, are exiled..but unlike daddy, swinging his golf clubs, they have chosen a "simpler" life style, a gated island of delusional privilege...

BradBo

(531 posts)
27. Your so right. Expose the children?
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jun 2021

You mean a man that was instrument in the murder of an American journalist. That child?

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
33. And the new neighbours do not want them either...they spent $700 million in a lot where
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jun 2021

they are not wanted.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
45. You misconstrued my post. They are not good people, but even they
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:04 AM
Jun 2021

know how awful DT is.

I never said this trash is good people.

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
46. Their version of "I only like soldiers who weren't captured"
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jun 2021

Trump is the failed soldier. Jarvanka has no use for him anymore.

But if Trump's insurrection had succeeded, they're be at his side and telling their kids, "Grandpa shows how it's done."

no_hypocrisy

(46,182 posts)
2. Both Ivanka and Jared are hypocrites.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:29 AM
Jun 2021

Either or both of them would have parlayed their positions as Trump Heir Apparents in a heartbeat. In Michael Wolff's book, they "playfully" argued which one of them would be the first one to be elected President after Donald Trump. And Ivanka certainly wanted to be the first female president, not Hillary Clinton.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/ivanka-trump-reportedly-planned-to-become-president.html

madaboutharry

(40,220 posts)
3. Ivanka and Jared are terrible people.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:32 AM
Jun 2021

They are co-conspirators and share responsibility for all the damage done to this country. They can try to run away and hide but history won’t allow it.

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
32. Yes this article was a total fluff piece
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jun 2021

as if they were just two normal people trying to raise a family. I am tired of the media trying to make them normal.

JI7

(89,264 posts)
5. Fuck all of these people . If he had "won" they would be right there in the White House
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:39 AM
Jun 2021

grifting as usual doing the photo ops everyday .

SarcasticSatyr

(1,183 posts)
31. I read she spends her days getting treatments at the spa ...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jun 2021

after that it's probably martinis by the pool until she slips into an alcoholic coma ... rinse and repeat.

Scrivener7

(51,004 posts)
10. Baloney. The distancing is totally self-serving. They're trying to rehabilitate their images.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jun 2021

To which I say:

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
13. These reports on similar themes is pure poppycock
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jun 2021

PR to give them their cover to rehabilitate their reputations after years of servicing their own financial interests as well as daddy's corruption and insanity. Shallow, hypocritical, corrupt to the gills, hucksters in their own right.

They also are embroiled in serious legal issues to the point if Justice actually prevailed, they'd be prosecuted with RICO charges and doing time. Assets Forfeiture come to mind as well.

I'm also speculating Daddy has or is likely to throw them under the bus at every turn during grand jury investigations if there actually are any, but I have to wonder if that isn't already in play.

Seriously I wish people here didn't fall for this obvious PR ploy and hope it stops soon.

nuxvomica

(12,440 posts)
14. So their stabilizing influence is gone!
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jun 2021

I'm just kidding. They're all a nest of vipers and this is just more kayfabe.

tanyev

(42,610 posts)
19. They've got a knack for that.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jun 2021
Following two days of riotous protests in Charlottesville, President Trump made a statement blaming "many sides" for the violence that took place, and refusing to call out white supremacists by name. The next day, he did acknowledge that "racism is evil," and "those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the K.K.K., neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."

So where were his son-in-law Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka Trump, two of Trump's closest advisors in the White House, when all this was going down? Per the New York Times, they were on vacation in Vermont.

This is hardly the first time the couple has been unavailable during a crisis in the administration. The Forward points out that Jared and Ivanka were celebrating Shabbat during the president's "Muslim ban" executive order, and were on a ski trip when Trump's initial healthcare bill floundered.

Once again, the news of their vacation begs the question: If Jared and Ivanka are supposed to be moderating voices in the White House, but they're taking time off just when the president needs a reminder that Nazis are evil, what are they doing there in the first place?

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a12019970/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-vacation/

Aviation Pro

(12,186 posts)
21. Just wait until the obese parasite....
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jun 2021

...gives up his precious Princess Sparkle Pony and Squeaky to Cy and Letitia. Oh, the tales they'll tell at that point.

oldsoftie

(12,597 posts)
22. Ivanka & Tiffany will stay FAR away.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:35 AM
Jun 2021

Not that Tiff was ever close to him anyway.
I wonder what Barron will become?
And I'd LOVE to see melania LEAVE his cheating ass.
The MAGAts would lose their shit

Thunderbeast

(3,418 posts)
38. I am waiting for Barron to get a call from Ron Reagan
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jun 2021

Maybe they will do a "tag team" podcast about rebellion against their President-Fathers.

I'm sure that Cousin Mary would support the effort!

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
23. They are all useless, but Ivanka and Jared have their own money, they don't have to suck up to him
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jun 2021

like those worthless boys do. If it were not for Daddy those boys would be trying to hold down a job at McDonalds.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,352 posts)
24. Let's be honest - they were all distant from one another pre-2016. They hate each other,
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jun 2021

they hate everyone else, they're all miserable human beings.

Of course they're distancing from each other: there isn't any real spotlight on them any more, so they can stop pretending that they have human feelings or tendancies.

Traildogbob

(8,797 posts)
29. Jarod got a book to sell
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jun 2021

MAGA’s can’t read. Plus if Trump Corp goes belly up, owing billions, Jarod will take his 900 million Saudi’s cash and not forfeit it in the lawsuits.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
30. He complains for several hours, and then
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jun 2021

he goes on Newsmarx, Fox, OnANN, and any place else that will have him, and he complains some more.

To Jared and Ivanka; Bed. Made. Lie. You greed, demented mottherfuckers could have avoided all of this by talking him out of running for President in the first place. I hope the lot of you spend the rest of your miserable, disgusting lives in prison.

NH Ethylene

(30,817 posts)
34. They can run but they can't hide!
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:28 AM
Jun 2021

They are forever stained by this monstrous creature, as they well deserve to be.

PCIntern

(25,582 posts)
36. Oh boo hoo.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jun 2021

I’ll tell you what pisses me off about them BESIDES THE DELIBERATE GENOCIDE…

The faux Orthodox Judaism. My family consists of a few so-called Modern Orthodox individuals, and they are a lot of things, but these two creeps ain’t fooling me for one instant. Just despicable in every way.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
49. Doesn't matter, they won't get a penny
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jun 2021

Chump will spend everything he has trying to keep his azz out of jail. There will be nothing left for the kiddos when he finally kicks. I think Jared stands to inherit something from his Dad though, so they won't be penniless.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
41. Fuck them.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jun 2021

We need to make sure they are forever tied to the Former Guy and the crimes they all committed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
42. They distance themselves from the mess they made only if the media allow it
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jun 2021

So now Tom and Daisy (see The Great Gatsby) would like to retreat into their wealth or indifference or whatever it is that keeps them together and just leave the rank smell of their sour farts to linger in the public sphere.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
44. Every time their name comes up...
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jun 2021

...I think if that haunting, creepy couple’s photo of them in the window like something straight of American Horror Story: Murder House.

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