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Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:48 PM

I live in a family of trumpers

From my parents, to my siblings, to my children, and to all extended family. I am the only sane one. They listen to faux news 24/7 and AM talk radio. There is no reasoning with these people. They are off the rails. They think the election was stolen and they worship trump. They think Biden is an idiot but they are speechless when I tell them that Biden and his policies garner a 63% favorabilty for both. I am in a fight right now with both my mom and sister over this....Jeez talk about divide and conquer.... When you can't even reconcile differences amongst family members....the stuff just got real.

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Reply I live in a family of trumpers (Original post)
hookaleft Jun 2021 OP
iemanja Jun 2021 #1
MLAA Jun 2021 #2
XanaDUer2 Jun 2021 #3
Permanut Jun 2021 #4
BootinUp Jun 2021 #19
Nexus2 Jun 2021 #28
lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #36
SallyHemmings Jun 2021 #5
Karadeniz Jun 2021 #6
CanonRay Jun 2021 #7
Trueblue1968 Jun 2021 #8
Pepsidog Jun 2021 #9
StClone Jun 2021 #10
Generic Brad Jun 2021 #13
StClone Jun 2021 #34
Rhiannon12866 Jun 2021 #37
Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #11
dianaredwing Jun 2021 #12
SaintLouisBlues Jun 2021 #14
SammyWinstonJack Jun 2021 #25
chia Jun 2021 #15
dawg day Jun 2021 #16
WarGamer Jun 2021 #17
BarbD Jun 2021 #18
niyad Jun 2021 #20
moonscape Jun 2021 #22
niyad Jun 2021 #21
dflprincess Jun 2021 #23
Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #24
bluestarone Jun 2021 #26
speaknow Jun 2021 #27
certainot Jun 2021 #29
thenelm1 Jun 2021 #30
napi21 Jun 2021 #31
Warpy Jun 2021 #32
myohmy2 Jun 2021 #33
Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #35

Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:49 PM

1. My God

Your children too. How awful for you. I can't even imagine what that is like. I'm so sorry.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:51 PM

2. I sure hope you have some like minded friends to help keep you sane 💖

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:54 PM

3. among all the havoc and death he caused (Trump)

rifts between friends and families is awful. I got unfriended bc of it.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:55 PM

4. I have been surprised..

at how many people are willing to drink a few gallons of kool id and join the Mango Mussolini cult. Sounds like you are as well, and I don't have an answer. Same phenomenon rampant in Germany in the thirties.

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Response to Permanut (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:54 PM

19. My theory, still developing it, but main

Thrust of the theory is that a large part of the puke population is going along with many of these culture wars just to be in the party that opposes the D party. How many interviews of Trumpers have you seen where they can barely be understood because they mangle the talking point that was literally drilled into their brain for uncounted hours? And then they had zip else on it. In other words manufactured outrage is so regular now. Itís all they got practically.

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Response to Permanut (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:21 PM

28. As much as I hate to admit and tried not too for so long, he does have a perverse charisma

that appeals very strongly to mindset that is uncomfortably common.

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Response to Nexus2 (Reply #28)

Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:15 PM

36. Same kind of 'charisma' as vampires and zombies?

I just don't get how a monster that ugly attracts followers.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:55 PM

5. Oh no

Talk about a living nightmare. I too hope you have sane friends.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:14 PM

6. I can't imagine how sad and frustrating this is for you. We're always here!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:25 PM

7. You have my sympathy

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:25 PM

8. SAME IS TRUE BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY SISTER & BIL. Her 3 adult kids are dumb trumpers.

only her youngest boy at 34 sees the evil and harm done by Trump.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:27 PM

9. Sorry to hear. I couldn't imagine living like that. Let this be a warning to us all that we will

never convert Trumpers. We must out vote them to oblivion and erase the scourge that is Trumpism.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:32 PM

10. Let us commiserate

About 12 years ago my brother and I got into a yelling match about some random political event. After that I saw the lines form with a lot of my family being revealed as Right-wing Wackos. I got into more disagreements and one final one when my Mother defended them all. I said a silent goodbye and have little contact with any of the family Cons. I have missed a lot in family affairs and being close as we had all been all our lives. Thank FOX, Limbaugh, and their ilk for purposely poisoning their brains. And for my sanity, I had to go incommunicado in-part.

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Response to StClone (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:43 PM

13. Am I looking in a mirror?

You've got a kindred spirit here with a similar tale.

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:11 PM

34. Worse my best friend, and constant phone pal,...

...my older, like-minded Sister and closest companion, fought cancer during this period and died a few years back. My life is pretty much as an orphan now with a niece and a brother in our camp.

Take care and cherish.

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Response to StClone (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 09:31 AM

37. My mother listened to Limbaugh which I found very offensive

I realize now that she was suffering from dementia. Her close friend confided to me that my mother also thought she had visited Mars.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:33 PM

11. Wow. That is awful. I wish I knew a way to support you and make that easier.

I can't imagine.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 08:35 PM

12. when I was young

I was enamoured by the 'magic' of advertising and propaganda. Movies and television enhanced that. This is the evil other side of the coin.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:09 PM

14. Family is overrated.

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Response to SaintLouisBlues (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

25. For sure.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:16 PM

15. I can deal with all the extended family except one of my kids.

And that makes me sad.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:38 PM

16. Stay safe- it's got to be hard to be surrounded by them

Come here for sanity!
We agree with you!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:42 PM

17. They're everywhere...

I work with Engineers, Doctors and Researchers who are Trumpers.

And they make for a strong debate, given their intellectual backgrounds.

But the most consistent quality between all of them, they're self centered.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:52 PM

18. It can be very lonely when you're the only one.

Vietnam was what set me apart from my Republican relatives. It's been downhill ever since, but that's the way it is.

It's my fellow Democrats who have given me strength and understanding. They are my chosen family.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 09:55 PM

20. as I have said for decades, there are a great many advantages to being an orphan.

or, one of my favourites, " your friends are god's way of apologizing for your relatives."

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Response to niyad (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

22. Good one. n/t

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:03 PM

23. To be fair, not all AM radio is bad

I spend most my working day with KTNF, AM950 "The Progressive Voice of Minnesota" on in the background.

https://www.am950radio.com/

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:04 PM

24. All I can say is that you have my condolences.

I hope you have some sane people in your life.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

26. My family as well

Religion Religion Religion here. They ALL say the ONLY answer is FAITH and GODS WILL! Total fucking IDIOTS!!!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

27. Be strong ! but if you want to see how

nuts they are, ask them this question. Did Obama win
a fair and free election ? and just watch what they say.
Yes Obama not Biden, you'll see how bad it really is.
good luck.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

29. suggestion: point out that limbaugh told millions/day for 30yrs that smoking doesn't cause cancer

also keep prefacing any arguments by asserting that it is now well known that putin has been using limbaugh and talk radio since at least 2008, like he's been using it in india and brazil and other countries

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:32 PM

30. Thank gawd for small mercies. I don't have any of that type in the immediate family.

I know there are a few relatives that I seldom see that buy into that bs - fortunately easily avoided.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 10:40 PM

31. Most of my family are RWers but I make sure we never talk politics when we're together, so all works

out well. I know I'll NEVER change their thinking, & they'll never change mine, so life works out much better never trying.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

32. First stop fighting

It only makes them dig in their heels and get defensive.

When they start ranting, tell them you are sick of politics. If they don't stop, walk out. Go for a walk drive somewhere, decompress. When you get back, ask if they're done. Rinse, repeat until they get the point.

You are right that you can't do anything with them if you keep contronting them with facts. That's just not going to work. Depriving them of an audience for their bullshit works a bit better.

Sadly, people have a right to believe whatever soul destroying bullshit they want to. They don't have a right to behave badly and abuse you with it. Grow some boundaries, cut them off, don't put up with the crap, slop over with sugar when they're talking about anything else. I did this with my own parents and it worked.

The only other thing you can do is when they come out with something totally insane, like the Jewish space lasers starting forest fires in Califorrnia, is to ask them who told them a stupid thing like that.. It lowers their defenses by blaming somebody else. Usually they change the subject really fast.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

33. yep...

...I've given up...

...when we must interact I'm polite, avoid politics and have been increasing my social distance from these family members out of self-defense...it must have been something like this during our Civil War...

...I have no choice...if I socialize and they're talking shit what am I to do?...pretend I agree?...make shut-up?...defend my righteous views and turn every encounter into a battle?...so I keep my distance...

...I hate to say it, but my love and respect for my family trumpers is rapidly disappearing and I can't do anything about it...I can't hold warm fuzzy feelings for rabid trump supporters...and it's gone beyond trump

...even if they're a moderate republican (there are a couple) I paint them with the same brush...for to be associated with anything trump and his control is like being a complacent moderate Nazi in the 1930's...

...sorry, and yes, it's even effective my Will...

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:14 PM

35. I feel very bad for you

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