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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI live in a family of trumpers
From my parents, to my siblings, to my children, and to all extended family. I am the only sane one. They listen to faux news 24/7 and AM talk radio. There is no reasoning with these people. They are off the rails. They think the election was stolen and they worship trump. They think Biden is an idiot but they are speechless when I tell them that Biden and his policies garner a 63% favorabilty for both. I am in a fight right now with both my mom and sister over this....Jeez talk about divide and conquer.... When you can't even reconcile differences amongst family members....the stuff just got real.
iemanja
(53,032 posts)Your children too. How awful for you. I can't even imagine what that is like. I'm so sorry.
MLAA
(17,288 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,664 posts)rifts between friends and families is awful. I got unfriended bc of it.
Permanut
(5,604 posts)at how many people are willing to drink a few gallons of kool id and join the Mango Mussolini cult. Sounds like you are as well, and I don't have an answer. Same phenomenon rampant in Germany in the thirties.
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)Thrust of the theory is that a large part of the puke population is going along with many of these culture wars just to be in the party that opposes the D party. How many interviews of Trumpers have you seen where they can barely be understood because they mangle the talking point that was literally drilled into their brain for uncounted hours? And then they had zip else on it. In other words manufactured outrage is so regular now. Its all they got practically.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)that appeals very strongly to mindset that is uncomfortably common.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I just don't get how a monster that ugly attracts followers.
SallyHemmings
(1,821 posts)Talk about a living nightmare. I too hope you have sane friends.
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,217 posts)only her youngest boy at 34 sees the evil and harm done by Trump.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)never convert Trumpers. We must out vote them to oblivion and erase the scourge that is Trumpism.
StClone
(11,683 posts)About 12 years ago my brother and I got into a yelling match about some random political event. After that I saw the lines form with a lot of my family being revealed as Right-wing Wackos. I got into more disagreements and one final one when my Mother defended them all. I said a silent goodbye and have little contact with any of the family Cons. I have missed a lot in family affairs and being close as we had all been all our lives. Thank FOX, Limbaugh, and their ilk for purposely poisoning their brains. And for my sanity, I had to go incommunicado in-part.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)You've got a kindred spirit here with a similar tale.
StClone
(11,683 posts)...my older, like-minded Sister and closest companion, fought cancer during this period and died a few years back. My life is pretty much as an orphan now with a niece and a brother in our camp.
Take care and cherish.
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)I realize now that she was suffering from dementia. Her close friend confided to me that my mother also thought she had visited Mars.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)I can't imagine.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)I was enamoured by the 'magic' of advertising and propaganda. Movies and television enhanced that. This is the evil other side of the coin.
SaintLouisBlues
(1,244 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)And that makes me sad.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Come here for sanity!
We agree with you!
WarGamer
(12,440 posts)I work with Engineers, Doctors and Researchers who are Trumpers.
And they make for a strong debate, given their intellectual backgrounds.
But the most consistent quality between all of them, they're self centered.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)Vietnam was what set me apart from my Republican relatives. It's been downhill ever since, but that's the way it is.
It's my fellow Democrats who have given me strength and understanding. They are my chosen family.
niyad
(113,302 posts)or, one of my favourites, " your friends are god's way of apologizing for your relatives."
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Response to hookaleft (Original post)
niyad This message was self-deleted by its author.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)I spend most my working day with KTNF, AM950 "The Progressive Voice of Minnesota" on in the background.
https://www.am950radio.com/
Crunchy Frog
(26,582 posts)I hope you have some sane people in your life.
bluestarone
(16,939 posts)Religion Religion Religion here. They ALL say the ONLY answer is FAITH and GODS WILL! Total fucking IDIOTS!!!
speaknow
(321 posts)nuts they are, ask them this question. Did Obama win
a fair and free election ? and just watch what they say.
Yes Obama not Biden, you'll see how bad it really is.
good luck.
certainot
(9,090 posts)also keep prefacing any arguments by asserting that it is now well known that putin has been using limbaugh and talk radio since at least 2008, like he's been using it in india and brazil and other countries
thenelm1
(854 posts)I know there are a few relatives that I seldom see that buy into that bs - fortunately easily avoided.
napi21
(45,806 posts)out well. I know I'll NEVER change their thinking, & they'll never change mine, so life works out much better never trying.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)It only makes them dig in their heels and get defensive.
When they start ranting, tell them you are sick of politics. If they don't stop, walk out. Go for a walk drive somewhere, decompress. When you get back, ask if they're done. Rinse, repeat until they get the point.
You are right that you can't do anything with them if you keep contronting them with facts. That's just not going to work. Depriving them of an audience for their bullshit works a bit better.
Sadly, people have a right to believe whatever soul destroying bullshit they want to. They don't have a right to behave badly and abuse you with it. Grow some boundaries, cut them off, don't put up with the crap, slop over with sugar when they're talking about anything else. I did this with my own parents and it worked.
The only other thing you can do is when they come out with something totally insane, like the Jewish space lasers starting forest fires in Califorrnia, is to ask them who told them a stupid thing like that.. It lowers their defenses by blaming somebody else. Usually they change the subject really fast.
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...I've given up...
...when we must interact I'm polite, avoid politics and have been increasing my social distance from these family members out of self-defense...it must have been something like this during our Civil War...
...I have no choice...if I socialize and they're talking shit what am I to do?...pretend I agree?...make shut-up?...defend my righteous views and turn every encounter into a battle?...so I keep my distance...
...I hate to say it, but my love and respect for my family trumpers is rapidly disappearing and I can't do anything about it...I can't hold warm fuzzy feelings for rabid trump supporters...and it's gone beyond trump
...even if they're a moderate republican (there are a couple) I paint them with the same brush...for to be associated with anything trump and his control is like being a complacent moderate Nazi in the 1930's...
...sorry, and yes, it's even effective my Will...