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StarryNite

(9,457 posts)
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:39 PM Jun 2021

UArizona doctor advises everyone wear face masks due to Delta variant

UArizona doctor advises everyone wear face masks due to Delta variant

BY KTAR.COM | JUNE 29, 2021

PHOENIX — A University of Arizona doctor on Monday recommended everyone, including those fully vaccinated, wear a mask amid a growing concern over the COVID-19 Delta variant.

Dr. Shad Marvasti, director of the College of Medicine, told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s Gaydos and Chad Show despite the protections provided by coronavirus vaccines, he believes it’s “premature” to stop wearing masks.

“The danger is because of the fact that this Delta variant is about 60% more infectious than the last variant,” Marvasti said.

“It’s still a great idea to get vaccinated, in fact, that’s probably the best protection you have,” Marvasti said. “But outside of that, masks are very useful.”

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UArizona doctor advises everyone wear face masks due to Delta variant (Original Post) StarryNite Jun 2021 OP
Another left-wing crank. Turbineguy Jun 2021 #1
Definitely a commie... littlemissmartypants Jun 2021 #5
He ain't from around here is he? LastDemocratInSC Jun 2021 #7
Too Late SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #2
My horse is still in the barn... StarryNite Jun 2021 #3
Hear! Hear! littlemissmartypants Jun 2021 #6
Stay safe littlemissmartypants StarryNite Jun 2021 #8
Absolutely! littlemissmartypants Jun 2021 #9
The anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers will get their delta soon enough. LisaL Jun 2021 #4
Meanwhile, I keep on reading things that say the current vaccines PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #10
Good but not perfect. LisaL Jun 2021 #12
I see the vaccines as another layer of defense. StarryNite Jun 2021 #13
So let me run some numbers by you. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #14
I am vaccinated but still wear my mask to the grocery store or where there's more people. blueinredohio Jun 2021 #11
So when will it be safe to be maskless? Generic Brad Jun 2021 #15
I hope so, I hate these damn things. Initech Jun 2021 #16

littlemissmartypants

(22,722 posts)
5. Definitely a commie...
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jun 2021

Just like the researchers whose work is the basis for this foolishness. . .*

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215547442

Calling your sarcasm and raising. . .

S/

*there are many in this quoted thread who owe me apologies, imo. I post about delta and get a bunch of grief and in the last few days it's delta, delta, delta, delta, delta...bla, bla, bla...

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LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
7. He ain't from around here is he?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jun 2021

I think I'll stick with talking to Billy at the tire shop instead of listening to a pointy headed academic with a name I can't pronounce.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. Too Late
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:43 PM
Jun 2021

You're not getting that horse back in the barn.

You think there was a WAR about masks before? Wait until you try to tell people they need to wear masks now.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
4. The anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers will get their delta soon enough.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jun 2021

It's the rest of us that should wear masks even though we are vaxxed.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
10. Meanwhile, I keep on reading things that say the current vaccines
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jun 2021

are extremely good at preventing even this variant.

StarryNite

(9,457 posts)
13. I see the vaccines as another layer of defense.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jun 2021

A very critical layer but as you said LisaL, not perfect.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
14. So let me run some numbers by you.
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jun 2021

Let's say (just to grab a starting number out of the air) that regular old COVID would infect 1 person out of every 100 unvaccinated people under a fixed set of circumstances.


If there are 3,000,000 people, that's 30,000 unvacinated people infected. Because mRNA vaccines are aobut 95% effective, In an equivalent vaccinated population there would be would be 5% of 30,000 = 1500 breakthrough cases.

Along comes Delta - which is 60% more contagious - meaning it would infect 1.6 persons out of every 100 unvaccinated people - that's 48,000 unvaccinated people infected. the mRNA vaccines are estimated at 88% effectivness - still pretty good, but now instead of 5% breakthrough caes - there are 12% of the already higher number will come down wiht it - 48,000 x .12 = 5,760 breakthrough cases

So under Delta, those 1500 breakthrough cases become 5,760 breakthrough cases becaue (1) Delta is more contagious AND (2) the vaccine is less effective - a 384% increase in breakthrough cases

That's assuming we're using an mRNA vaccine. It's even worse for the J&J - since its effectiveness was even lower to start with.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
15. So when will it be safe to be maskless?
Tue Jun 29, 2021, 08:00 PM
Jun 2021

With all the virus deniers keeping this going - will we ever be able to safely live without masks again?

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