Rep. James Clyburn is backing Shontel Brown in OH-11 race

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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[hlthe2b]

1. Because James Clyburn is a Democrat's Democrat.

(and sees clearly through the likes of a Nina Turner)

[FarPoint]

28. Absolutely correct...

I see it too....Thank You James Clyburn....

[grantcart]

36. Bingo

[PunkinPi]

62. Pretty sure Rep. Clyburn didn't appreciate being called "stupid" by Killer Mike while Turner agreed.

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WATCH Killer Mike call Elder Deacon Jim Clyburn “STUPID” but “with love..” at a Town Hall for Nina Turner hosted by TYT

also watch Turner “amen” Killer Mike as he accuses Dems of being paid to NOT work for the people

A vote for Turner is a vote against the Biden Harris agenda

[LetMyPeopleVote]

65. Brown is widely viewed as a leading candidate in the Cleveland-area race

This makes me smile

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The Jewish Democratic Council of America is endorsing Shontel Brown, a Cuyahoga County councilwoman and party chair, in the crowded and increasingly contentious Democratic primary to represent Ohio’s 11th Congressional District, Jewish Insider has learned.

“JDCA is proud to endorse Shontel Brown in the OH-11 primary because she shares our Jewish and Democratic values on a wide range of issues, including access to affordable, quality health care, ensuring jobs that pay fair wages, supporting public education, taking action to end gun violence, protecting our democracy, and ensuring equity and justice for all,” Halie Soifer, JDCA’s CEO, said in a statement to JI.

Since announcing her bid in December, Brown has emerged as the pro-Israel favorite in the race, which is scheduled for August 3. Early in-person voting begins on July 7.

In recent months, Brown has notched endorsements from Democratic Majority for Israel as well as Pro-Israel America, and earlier this week, four pro-Israel House Democrats — including Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ), Ted Deutch (D-FL), David Trone (D-MD) and Brad Schneider (D-IL) — announced their support for the congressional hopeful.

Brown is widely viewed as a leading candidate in the Cleveland-area race to succeed former Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-OH), who vacated the seat in March for a cabinet position as housing and urban development secretary in the Biden administration

[JohnSJ]

2. Of course, why would he back the person who compareed Joe Biden to a bowl of s**t, and refused

To support the Democratic nominee in 2016

[msongs]

3. a few prominent dems have endorsed the bowl of sh** concept by endorsing turner nt

[ColinC]

5. I'm confounded by how many people find calling a candidate names worse than teansphobia

[JohnSJ]

13. Who on DU is making such a comparison? No one, and you are creating a false strawman

argument trying to equate the two

Let me make my position very clear, Joe Biden is NOT comparable to eating a bowl of shit, and anyone who believes that, is disgusting

[ColinC]

14. One candidate is openly misgendering and spouting her transphobia.

Many others aren't. I don't understand why the one that is gets so much support over those who don't.

[JohnSJ]

16. From my point of view, any candidate but Turner. Her actions, along with others in 2016, helped

give us trump by encouraging people either not to vote for the Democratic nominee, or vote third party, and it did make a difference in 2016.

In every critical swing state, Hillary lost by less than 1%, and in those states Jill Stein got 1% of the vote.

As for whether Brown is transphobic, I have no idea, but here were her comments on her misgendering statements:

https://thebuckeyeflame.com/2021/05/28/ohio-congressional-candidate-repeatedly-misgenders-during-forum-issues-apology/

[ColinC]

22. She didn't just misgender. She also described a transgender woman

As a man trying to live as a woman.

[lapucelle]

34. Cleveland Stonwall Democrats (who hosted the event) called it "misgendering".

Your argument is with them, not me.

https://thebuckeyeflame.com/2021/05/28/ohio-congressional-candidate-repeatedly-misgenders-during-forum-issues-apology/

[lapucelle]

18. There is no candidate "sprouting transphobia".

There is a candidate who apologized for a very hurtful mistake and then promised to "lead by learning".

I appreciate the request to clarify my statement from last night’s equality forum.

I was fortunate to learn more about the struggles of the LGBTQIA+ community from my friend before their passing and was able to acknowledge and use my privilege to support many of the unaddressed issues.

Out of respect for my friend I did not share their name as I discussed their tragic passing, but I did refer to them as “he.”

To be clear, my friend didn’t always present themself as a woman, but when doing so I would refer to my friend as she. When my friend presented as a man, I would address them as he. As I mentioned in the forum, I knew them since we were children and while they spent most of their life identifying as a man, I have always been respectful to refer to them how they wanted to be referred to.

Like everyone, I make mistakes – I am still learning, and sometimes I trip up. I am working every day to be better – and I sincerely apologize to everyone in the trans community for my mistake. I will always stand with the trans community – who are under attack here in Ohio from a Republican Party that is working tirelessly every day to strip their basic human rights.

snip=================================================================================

My goal last night was to be as open about my own experience losing a friend, who was a member of the trans community, when asked about violence against black trans women and how more needs to be done to address them specifically.

I am also committed to respecting any and every person’s preferred pronouns and I will continue to lead by learning and do the work as an ally and advocate for the LGBTQIA+ and other underrepresented communities.

https://thebuckeyeflame.com/2021/05/28/ohio-congressional-candidate-repeatedly-misgenders-during-forum-issues-apology/

[ColinC]

23. She apologized for a disqualifying mistake

Well at least she apologized for it. Still disqualifying in my opinion

[lapucelle]

25. So it wasn't "transphobia" -- an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against

transgender people

It was a mistake that someone apologized for.

[mcar]

27. A person makes a mistake, apologizes in a well meaning way

but her one, mistaken comment is "still disqualifying" to you?

But voting for Jill Stein in 2016 and referring to voting for Joe Biden in 2020 as eating a bowl of sh!t is A-OK?

[W_HAMILTON]

30. Undermining the Democratic Party and then crawling back when the new party you tried to start...

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...was an abject failure, I would say THAT is what is disqualifying for a DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE in our DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

[Cha]

44. I would say.. You Are Absolutely CORRECT!

& Well said.. Mahalo, W_HAMILTON!!

[Cha]

42. Nina Turner makes Disqualifying statements

and does Not apologize.

[Demsrule86]

47. Not supporting the Democratic nominee twice in eight years is disqualifying in my book.

Ohio is not super liberal ...not even Cleveland so I doubt Nina Turner will win the nomination. She has already said some questionable things...as have her people...the People's Party. She is not a Democrat. Nina gets my vote only if she is in the general and I hope to God she is not. I worry she is the one person who could lose this seat. I live in Cleveland by the way.

[OilemFirchen]

24. One candidate unapologetically pals around with antisemites.

Never forget. Or, as my dear departed mom would say to her: "Gai tren zich".

[lapucelle]

15. Plus misgendering (and apologizing afterwards) is not the same thing as transphobia.

misgender
: to identify the gender of (a person, such as a transsexual or transgender person) incorrectly (as by using an incorrect label or pronoun)

transphobia
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against transgender people

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misgender
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transphobia

[JohnSJ]

17. Yup, and here is a link to what you are referring to

https://thebuckeyeflame.com/2021/05/28/ohio-congressional-candidate-repeatedly-misgenders-during-forum-issues-apology/

[lapucelle]

20. Pouncing on a mistake, mischaracterizing it, and then amplifying the narrative

is a right wing tactic.

[JohnSJ]

26. It is also a Nina Turner, David Sirota, and Briana Gray tactic

[Demsrule86]

48. Yes it is.

[FarPoint]

32. I had a post removed because I spoke poorly of Nina

So, I have the same opinion but focus my energies on positives of Shontel Brown...I share this because there are those here that alert on such an issue they disagree with/candidate in favor of this case, Nina......so it has some level of irritation towards posters like myself who did not support Nina.

[JohnSJ]

38. Well said, thanks

[JohnSJ]

12. and I have nothing but disgust for them also

[LetMyPeopleVote]

41. For this thread

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[Cha]

45. Rofl.. Rt TY, LMPV!!

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[ColinC]

4. Clyburn is wonderful but wrong on this

Transphobia is beyond unacceptable, and Brown should be ashamed of herself.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. I want an actual member of the Democratic Party to be the nominee

turner campaigned for and voted for Jill Stein in 2016 and tried to help trump in 2020.

[ColinC]

10. I draw the line at transphobia.

As far as I know, Turner has never uttered such bigotry, despite calling other democrats names. Also, even if you don't like turner, aren't there other candidates in the race? Why do you feel like you have to support the bigoted one?

[mcar]

29. Brown's comment was not transphobic, as you know

if you are reading this thread.

[hlthe2b]

40. I draw the line at deriding and backstabbing of the entire Democratic Party, including our President

Nina is out there for ONE person and one person only and it sure isn't ANY of us.

[George II]

37. What does transphobia have to do with this?

[Cha]

46. Rep Clyburn is NOT wrong.. you are.

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[Demsrule86]

51. You keep beating on that dead horse...as someone has already pointed out, at worst it was

misgendering. Nina Turner said Trump was better than Hillary Clinton and actively campaigned against Hillary. And Nina called Joe Biden a half of bowl of shit. Nothing could make me vote for her in a primary...a general well what choice would I have? So of course she gets my vote. But this is Ohio, I still think Shontel will win the primary.

[FelineOverlord]

6. Rep. James Clyburn is backing Shontel Brown in OH-11 race

After what happened the other day with Nina and Killer Mike, who could blame him?

Although I doubt he would have supported Nina anyway.

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[Cha]

49. Well that's disgusting.. TY, FO!

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[oasis]

7. Continued loyalty and respect for our party will boost Shontel's chances.

[lapucelle]

9. I wonder if Killer Mike will respond with bitter invective.

Apparently he thinks Clyburn is "incredibly stupid".

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[W_HAMILTON]

31. Is this gonna be Nina Turner's version of the infamous...

..."I've got news for the Republican establishment. I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us." tweet?

[betsuni]

35. Absolutely!

That was a good one, very embarrassing!

[Cha]

50. Poor thing is Projecting on to Rep Clyburn.

[lapucelle]

54. "And that criticism is with love, cause I'm going to still come to your state

and I don't want state troopers to stop me".

It's as if Killer Mike seems to think that "Clyborn" is a corrupt political boss who sics the police on people who disrespect him. What's up with that?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/6/27/2037282/-What-in-Hades-is-this

[Cha]

57. Oh KM is a Gaslighting Fool..

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he obviously thinks he can't get anywhere without the gaslight attacks on Rep James Clyburn.

That's not "love".. he doesn't know what that is.

ETA a few words.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

56. This makes me smile

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[Me.]

11. Excellent

[George II]

19. Excerpt from the NY Times article:

WASHINGTON — Early last year, as Bernie Sanders was surging through the first Democratic presidential primary races, Representative James E. Clyburn of South Carolina, a kingmaker in his state, stepped in to endorse Joseph R. Biden Jr. before the primary there, helping vault the former vice president to the nomination.

On Tuesday, Mr. Clyburn, the No. 3 House Democrat, took aim at one of Mr. Sanders’s most outspoken acolytes, Nina Turner, a hero to the left who is surging in her campaign in Ohio to claim the Cleveland-based congressional seat vacated by the housing secretary, Marcia L. Fudge.

In a rare intervention into a party primary, Mr. Clyburn, a veteran lawmaker and the highest-ranking Black member of Congress, endorsed Shontel Brown, Ms. Turner’s leading opponent.

He said his decision to back Ms. Brown, the chairwoman of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, was not about Mr. Sanders, or even Ms. Turner, who remains the favorite before the contest on Aug. 3 in the heavily Democratic district. But he took a swipe at what he called the “sloganeering” of the party’s left flank, which has risen to power with calls for “Medicare for all,” and to “abolish ICE” and “defund the police.”

I wonder if this was prompted by Killer Mike calling James Clyburn "incredibly stupid" this weekend and Nina Turner responding, "You better talk about it." as she nodded approvingly.

I LOVE Shontel Brown's comment on this:

“As the leader of this party, I am truly skilled in building bridges and doing it without attacking people or insulting them,” she said Tuesday. If sent to Washington, she added, “I won’t have to start with a long letter of apology.”

[LetMyPeopleVote]

43. Thank you for posting this

[Cha]

52. Yeah.. Mahalo!

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In a rare intervention into a party primary, Mr. Clyburn, a veteran lawmaker and the highest-ranking Black member of Congress, endorsed Shontel Brown, Ms. Turner’s leading opponent.

Excellent statement form Rep Clyburn! TY!

“As the leader of this party, I am truly skilled in building bridges and doing it without attacking people or insulting them,” she said Tuesday. If sent to Washington, she added, “I won’t have to start with a long letter of apology.”

[BootinUp]

21. Clyburn will take down what's her name

When the time is right.

[BlueLucy]

33. Hahahahahaha!

Has Nina Turner responded to this? Clyburn is getting some pay back! I love it!

[Cha]

53. Hi, LMPV.. I don't get this tweet.. ?

No wonder she got Clyburn's

attention... He's not serious about it either.

"he's not serious.." about wheat?

TY!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

55. This makes me smile

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[Cha]

58. Oh that's Good! lol.. I'll Never Forget!

Rt TY, LMPV.. I have the Highest of Hopes!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

59. Clyburn is right on defund the police and is right on Shontel Brown

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

60. Congressman Clyburn is an inspiration

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[PunkinPi]

61. I received an email from Shontel Brown's campaign today that said...

The campaign's fundraising is surging. Wednesday, June 30th was the best fundraising day of the entire campaign. The campaign raised $162,808 on the last day of June and is in a strong position heading into July.

I would think a lot of that was spurned on by Rep. Clyburn's endorsement. Go Shontel!!!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

63. I hope that is this is correct

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

64. This makes me smile

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