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Normandin says Amazon punished him for things beyond his control that prevented him from completing his deliveries, such as locked apartment complexes. He said he took the termination hard and, priding himself on a strong work ethic, recalled that during his military career he helped cook for 250,000 Vietnamese refugees at Fort Chaffee in Arkansas.
Im an old-school kind of guy, and I give every job 110%, he said. This really upset me because we're talking about my reputation. They say I didnt do the job when I know damn well I did.
Normandins experience is a twist on the decades-old prediction that robots will replace workers. At Amazon, machines are often the bosshiring, rating and firing millions of people with little or no human oversight.
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Amazon became the worlds largest online retailer in part by outsourcing its sprawling operations to algorithmssets of computer instructions designed to solve specific problems. For years, the company has used algorithms to manage the millions of third-party merchants on its online marketplace, drawing complaints that sellers have been booted off after being falsely accused of selling counterfeit goods and jacking up prices.
Increasingly, the company is ceding its human-resources operation to machines as well, using software not only to manage workers in its warehouses but to oversee contract drivers, independent delivery companies and even the performance of its office workers. People familiar with the strategy say Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos believes machines make decisions more quickly and accurately than people, reducing costs and giving Amazon a competitive advantage.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-06-28/fired-by-bot-amazon-turns-to-machine-managers-and-workers-are-losing-out
ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)Without bots running everything the company became monolithic, and amassed the largest fortune in the world.
How bad was all that decision making by people during the first 20 years of explosive growth?
This is Bezos thinking 1984 was a good plan.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)Our society is wealthy enough to create "make work" and pay people who lose these jobs.
But we have to do actual progressive taxation to get there.
Because of REAGAN and the GOP we are far from that.
ProfessorGAC
(65,134 posts)...the other day.
I trapped the guy into the 2 dimensional conclusion that if taxes were zero, GDP growth would be infinity if their curve worked like they claim.
He's not an idiot so when I led him into that trap, it forced him into backtracking a great deal.
I ended with how Reagan growth was borrowed money, Clinton growth came with tax increases, 43's growth came from borrowed money, and Obama's growth after effective taxes went up.
I may not have completely converted him, but I know he was rethinking.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)Jim__
(14,082 posts)The implication is that there will be even less human-to-human contact in the future. That is a part of what the much-maligned luddites warned about in the early 19th century.
Johonny
(20,872 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)... they literally are going to run out of people to hire. Amazon is poised to become America's largest private employer, toppling Walmart off that crown.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There is more to life than the bottom line.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)moondust
(20,002 posts)Hire somebody to get your email feedback feature to work! Didn't work for me yesterday. Maybe you just don't want feedback? A feedback form allowed me to check a box for "Delivered to Wrong Address" but it had no place for an explanation. I hope the driver doesn't get fired for it.
I had a package delivered to a neighbor I believe because the font on the shipping label was so tiny it could hardly be read without a magnifying glass. I wanted to tell Jeff that it's not the driver's fault that somebody chose a font size that is unnecessarily too small and hard to read. Trying to save a penny on ink perhaps?
LifeLongDemocratic
(131 posts)Everyone is treated equally regardless of skin color, sexual orientation or religion. You may not like the rules but they apply equally to everyone. No favoritism.
ret5hd
(20,509 posts)God, just think what a hellhole it would be then!!!