Those who said in 2016 that the SC didn't matter, and either didn't vote or voted third party

[JohnSJ]

I hope you are happy with the latest SC decisions on voting rights

Hillary lost every critical swing state by less than 1%, and in those critical swing states, Jill Stein received 1% of the vote

[ck4829]

1. Same question for all the electoral college lovers out there

A lot of people were convinced Trump would not get the nomination or would win.

The problem of "not voting" wasn't just "I don't like 100% like the candidate", it was also a lot of "I'm sure the crazy won't win".

[Moostache]

2. Keep away from Runaround Sue (n/t)

[Hekate]

3. Plenty of fights here about it. I got so my only reply was "SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS"...

I had lunch with an old lefty political friend 2 weeks before the election and couldn’t dissuade her from Hillary-hatred.

I never saw her again — true, I moved, but my email address is still the same, and I have a phone. I just … couldn’t. The election of Trump was a gut-punch like no other.

And here we are, as Fiona Hill said in her testimony.

[JohnSJ]

4. Even with the obstacles presented we must vote through those obstacles in large numbers

[Hekate]

5. Absolutely

[LizBeth]

9. +1 "SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS"...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

6. Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and VRA

Everyone knew that the control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016. Jill Stein voters are responsible for today's ruling

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[JohnSJ]

7. Exactly

[Hekate]

18. This

[betsuni]

20. +1

[Doremus]

28. The 86k rust belt voters who were virtually ignored during the campaign

and who were sufficiently pissed to give the election to the other side. They had nothing at all to do with it. Nothing.
Just a hiccup. The real culprit are the 1% Stein voters from states not even affecting the electoral college result. Got it. /s

For all of our sake, let's just hope President Biden continues to push for and pass the Progressive planks of his platform including DC and PR statehood. THESE are the bold actions that will save us, not moderate bipartisan half assed BS.

[Bettie]

8. First: How many of those are around here?

Practically none.

Second: it is in the past. We can't change it. So, how do we move forward?

[mcar]

11. Maybe progressives can start fighting Republicans

Instead of primarying Democrats. It would be a start.

[Bettie]

13. So, this is a slam against

those with whom you disagree?

Those who aren't "center" enough for your taste?

[Hekate]

21. First, it very much depends on what we are disagreeing about. Second, how do we prevent ...

…a re-occurrence of the 2016 debacle? How do we convince the lefties in our Democratic tent that as of now, and I mean now, not the misty past, the membership of the SCOTUS is a crisis that surpasses their need to “hold their nose,” or “make a statement,” or any of the other mantras that pass for idealism in their ranks? How do we convince them that any Democratic candidate for POTUS will have signed the Democratic platform, and that if they have a problem with that they really, truly, need to go read the GOP platform?

I am not picking a fight with you, I am expressing a very deep concern. 2016 led directly to 1/6/2021. And — I am pragmatic, not centrist.

[questionseverything]

27. Well one way to prevent a loss like 2016 is

Stop trying to drive off “left leaning “ voters

This op is trying to shame the left for hc loss without taking responsibility for driving them away

I don’t agree with all of the democratic platform but i can still happily vote with democrats that are more centrist than I am

If i had a dollar for every left bashing op here on du over the past 5-6 years I would be rich

[Doremus]

29. 1000%

[Hassin Bin Sober]

34. Don't let a bunch of angry shut-ins living in life's 2 minute warning piss you off or...

… dissuade you for voting for Democratic nominees.

[questionseverything]

36. I never would but

I think some of the stuff said here could be hurtful enough to drive off a few voters

And since we lost a couple states by less than 1percent we know it doesn’t take much

Heck i am hoping tfg holds on to a big enough percentage of voters that he splits the repubs forever

[LizBeth]

10. Until the day I die, I will see them as pos. I will be forever pissed.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

12. This started in 2000 Bush V Gore

The first time the court put the fly in the ointment !

Remember when the Court decided to STOP a lawful recount of a national election!


2000 set up a bunch of this crap and that is where we went off the rails and nobody went kicking and screaming about that one...

[lagomorph777]

23. "nobody went kicking and screaming about that one" What?

Um, pretty much everybody on the left is still furious about the illegal ruling from SCROTUS in 2000.

But I do get your point, if you are annoyed about the constant repetition of complaints about people who voted for Jill Stein, or whatever the fuck Susan Sarandon said. Yes, these are bad people. Now, what shall we do in the present day, in real life, to solve problems?

[Hortensis]

14. Some are sorry for letting themselves be deceived into making bad choices,

we all just have to move on and fix it.

As for the rest of those drawn to hostile deceits about the Democratic Party, dished out by the same bad influences they're still listening to, LW or RW... they are what they are. I actually find the RW hate more tolerable than the leftist hypocrisy. At least they don't pretend to be us.

[betsuni]

25. "I actually find the RW hate more tolerable" -- I agree.

At least with RW types there are real differences between them and us.

When one is called the worst vicious names and accused of all sorts of sins and banished to Status Quo Neoliberal Centrist Establishment Hell by someone supposedly on the same side because one thinks the ACA with a public option has a better chance of passing than a Medicare for All plan, that's just ... nutty.

[Hortensis]

26. Yes. Of course they're all "...nutty" and in that more like each other

than honest, responsible people.

[betsuni]

30. Always the victim. Boo hoo, everyone's mean to me, I'm being ignored, we're being "driven away."

Everything is always someone else's fault. Me me me. Mommy isn't paying enough attention to me, I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue.

Annoying.

[Hortensis]

31. Over on another thread a 2016 anti-Democratic agitator's being lauded.

If Donald Trump ran as a Democrat and the terms of service required us to support him, we'd be gone. This person isn't that big but the disgust is the same.

Oh, well. Politics requires strong stomachs.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Ari Berman is correct

Link to tweet

[11 Bravo]

16. This seems like a propitious time to say it again. FUCK SUSAN SARANDON!

[BannonsLiver]

17. Oh, some of them are still here cheering on Neena Turner.

[StarfishSaver]

19. As always, most of the people who thought and voted that way

Aren't going to be affected by these decisions

[JohnSJ]

22. I actually I think they will

[JI7]

33. I think they kind of like it and see it as payback

[moondust]

24. It ALWAYS matters.

ALWAYS.

[KG]

32. I lulz'd

[forthemiddle]

35. Roberts tends to defer to State rule when it comes to voting

Isn’t that the reason they voted against Trump in so many election cases?
I am afraid that unless there is blatant minority discrimination, the SCOTUS will let the state’s decide.

[JohnSJ]

37. The SC overruled California law requiring political donations disclosure. So much for

states rights

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/us/supreme-court-donor-privacy.amp.html

[forthemiddle]

38. Your right

It was a general comment about voting rights, and just an observation I made when the majority opted against every single Trump lawsuit, and other Republican lawsuits that pertained to the votes.

[JohnSJ]

39. ok