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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:19 AM Jul 2021

He walked Clearwater Beach with an AR-15. Is he a menace or a martyr?

The tactics used by Michael Taylor, a gun-rights “auditor” with a YouTube following, are legal. Whether they’re in good taste depends on who you ask.


Michael Taylor, also known as the “The Armed Fisherman," strapped with his assault rifle and hand gun, baits his fishing line while at Pier 60 on Clearwater Beach on July 2, 2021. Taylor travels around Florida, "auditing" authorities' knowledge of a law that allows people to openly carry firearms if they're hunting, fishing or camping or on their way to or from one of those activities. He records his confrontations with law enforcement officers, including those in Clearwater, and posts the results online. [ Octavio Jones ]

CLEARWATER BEACH — Michael Taylor trudged over the crowded sugar sand, between sunbathers on beach towels and water-winged kids digging with plastic shovels. A few people peered at him from behind sunglasses. What was he doing?

“Livin’ that dream,” he told anyone who engaged with him on a recent Monday. “Livin’ that Florida dream.”

In his left hand, he carried a fishing rod and a pole flying a “Don’t tread on me” flag. They bobbed in front of the GoPro camera strapped to his chest and shooting video. Something else, dark and dull but obscured, kept intruding on the frame.

He fist-bumped a beachgoer and complimented the man’s tattoo, the symbol of the Three Percenters, an anti-government militia movement. The man asked about the thing slung over Taylor’s shoulder, that shadow on the screen.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2021/07/10/he-walked-clearwater-beach-with-an-ar-15-is-he-a-menace-or-a-martyr/

Menace? Yes. Asshole? Absolutely. He wants to force everyone around to accept his perverse fetish.
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He walked Clearwater Beach with an AR-15. Is he a menace or a martyr? (Original Post) Zorro Jul 2021 OP
In a sane world, he would get the help he so clearly needs. niyad Jul 2021 #1
I find myself saying "in a sane world..." quite often these days. sop Jul 2021 #4
Sadly true. niyad Jul 2021 #13
K&R!!! It's like we live in a world today with a viral insanity going around. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2021 #17
I don't think the majority... OneGrassRoot Jul 2021 #32
Every single day, multiple times a day, a new NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #2
It's shark week. Throck Jul 2021 #3
he told anyone who engaged with him on a recent Monday. "Livin' that Florida dream." luckone Jul 2021 #5
Eventually his "auditing" activities will get his ass shot! Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2021 #6
Might take awhile, but I bet one day he gets shot before he gets to "explain" himself. nt woodsprite Jul 2021 #7
neither.. hes an idiot who needs constant validation of his manhood samnsara Jul 2021 #8
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2021 #18
Yep. I love it when men have penis envy. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #29
Attention whore. 2naSalit Jul 2021 #9
Open carry in Florida is banned except while engaged in certain protected activities, like fishing, sop Jul 2021 #10
Guns were banned at TFG's July 3 Sarasota rally Zorro Jul 2021 #33
Tiny Dick World's new posterboy randr Jul 2021 #11
As a long-time pier angler, MineralMan Jul 2021 #12
No shit. IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2021 #27
Well, he should have plenty of space around him. MineralMan Jul 2021 #34
Yup! IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2021 #37
This country is in a severe mental illness crisis. nt Javaman Jul 2021 #14
Sad... Jim G. Jul 2021 #15
Fuck this guy. He's an obvious menace. Paladin Jul 2021 #16
How can he be a "Martyr"? Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #19
Can't think of a better way to get the law repealed. gulliver Jul 2021 #20
He is nothing but a creepy selfish little man. riversedge Jul 2021 #21
he's not even a man onethatcares Jul 2021 #23
Looks like he's loading his AR-15 with a giant maggot. Works for me! n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2021 #22
That looks like a shrimp... PTWB Jul 2021 #24
Does that right end if he handles the gun in an unsafe manner? Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #25
Any of those justifying this behavior should tell me how the crowd can ever know when or if hlthe2b Jul 2021 #26
Maybe legal, but he is an idiot. LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #28
Just begging for a smaller penis to to start something with him. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #30
It's illegal here, and it's also dangerous. hunter Jul 2021 #31
Other: Attention whore 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #35
'Technically' that looks like an AR PISTOL strapped to his chest. mackdaddy Jul 2021 #36
Equivalent mentality of a wienie wagger. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #38

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
32. I don't think the majority...
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jul 2021

of these right-wing fanatics are mentally ill or victims, as many choose to label the Qultists. Well, no more than most of us. I believe mental illness lies on a spectrum and how many of us are truly WELL? Our world is indeed ill.

I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that most of the right-wing fanatics are simply assholes, lacking moral character.

Not sure what kind of help addresses that. so think they should be shunned when feasible.

sop

(10,177 posts)
10. Open carry in Florida is banned except while engaged in certain protected activities, like fishing,
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jul 2021

hunting, camping, and while traveling to and from those activities.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
33. Guns were banned at TFG's July 3 Sarasota rally
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jul 2021

You'd think that would have been one venue where they should have congregated and celebrated their 2nd Amendment rights.

I wonder why that wasn't allowed...

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
12. As a long-time pier angler,
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jul 2021

I cannot imagine how awkward his fishing experience must be with an AR-15 draped across his chest. He is a moron.

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
34. Well, he should have plenty of space around him.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jul 2021

Most people would spot him as a dickhead who has no manners and who would probably snag your line within five minutes, or refuse to let you move past him if you had a large fish on. I'd move to some other spot for my fishing. When pier fishing is good, it is a cooperative effort when someone has a big one on.

Jim G.

(14,811 posts)
15. Sad...
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jul 2021

I remember back in the 80's when I lived there, homeless guys used to sleep under Pier 60 & the "short pier" about a 1/2 mile north of it.

It was against the law to sleep on the beach, so they had fishing rods they'd cast out & stick in the sand because then they were "night fishing", which was allowed.


Paladin

(28,257 posts)
16. Fuck this guy. He's an obvious menace.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jul 2021

It never fails: the civilian assholes who walk around with guns in public are exactly the sort of people who shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm. This "auditor" is doing nothing more than bullying the public. He could stash a 9mm pistol in his tackle box, but oh no, he's got to walk around with an assault rifle strapped to himself. I've got your "audit," motherfucker.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
19. How can he be a "Martyr"?
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jul 2021

He's not dead


But I vote "Menace". He seems simpatico with an avowed anti-government militia (how are we the only country that allows armed anti-government groups to exist/flourish?).

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
20. Can't think of a better way to get the law repealed.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jul 2021

A guy walking around recreation areas with an AR-15, sneering that it's legal when confronted by cops? I can't think of a better way to get the law repealed. And he's a POC, no doubt causing the typical Republican's support for his AR-15 to wane.

We need several of these guys on every beach, at every public lake, on every hiking trail that is used to get to hunting ground, etc. When "traveling to a hunting or fishing destination" these guys should avoid highways (in the name of safety) and take only routes through white majority residential areas, prominently displaying their movie merchandise toys. And they should walk to avoid the risks of automobile travel.

(Sarcasm, but with a point.)

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
23. he's not even a man
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jul 2021

he's an asshole.

The world has passed him by and he'll never get out of his movie.

What's he afraid of? It must be hell to be afraid of living the life of a "normal" person. No matter the words, it's not normal to be that fearful.

Maybe he should start a gofundme for a one way ticket to Somalia where he can carry anything he can afford to buy..

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
25. Does that right end if he handles the gun in an unsafe manner?
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jul 2021

In other words, if you see him point the gun at someone, can you call the cops?

hlthe2b

(102,263 posts)
26. Any of those justifying this behavior should tell me how the crowd can ever know when or if
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jul 2021

he's going to go "postal" on them and commit our next mass shooting.

This is more than a menace. It is legalized domestic terrorism.

We should not have to put up with it. Maybe if those so inclined felt threatened and started shooting THEM before they could shoot US? (No, I'm not serious, but there ought to be some repercussion for this threatening behavior).

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
28. Maybe legal, but he is an idiot.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jul 2021

What is the over/under, in the event of a moment’s notice mass shooting happening, he:

A - Drops what is in his hands, pulls that bad boy up into firing position and drops that sum bitch two the chest, one to the head.

B - Drops everything running for cover, shitting his pants as his arms become jelly at the thought of shooting back.

C - The shooter, having a chance before surprising everyone by pulling a gun out, takes a quick look around to see who to shoot first.

Guys like this do the gunner side no favors.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
31. It's illegal here, and it's also dangerous.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jul 2021

One of our neighbors brought a similar gun into a local fast food place for unknown reasons. Somebody called 911 and the cops shot him dead when he came out holding the gun.

I think the consensus was "suicide by cop" but nobody will ever know.

I'm surprised nobody but the cops have taken this guy's gun by force.

He looks like an easy target for armed robbers.

Poke him in the back with a stick and tell him to hand over his gun or get shot.

Personally, I don't know why the cops haven't "accidentally" dropped his guns in the ocean.

Sand and saltwater are bad for guns.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
36. 'Technically' that looks like an AR PISTOL strapped to his chest.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jul 2021

So even though it shoots the same bullets as an AR rifle, they have shorter barrels and are not suppose to be shoulder fired. The thing on the end is an "arm Brace" and not a shoulder stock.

So from the ATF legal standpoint his AR 'pistol' is no different than a 2 shot derringer. Well other than the 30 round magazine loaded with rifle rounds..

There are many vids on YT of these guys "open carrying" their "pistol" like this and officers responding to calls on these guys.

Some of them may end up literal martyrs.


Midnight Writer

(21,762 posts)
38. Equivalent mentality of a wienie wagger.
Sat Jul 10, 2021, 02:25 PM
Jul 2021

He likes to shock, but secretly he hopes a woman will see his big, manly gun and throw herself at him.

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