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Mad_Machine76

(24,450 posts)
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 09:58 PM Jul 2021

What is the Republican Solution to COVID (if there even is one)?

They don't believe in any restrictions to stop the spread- no shutdowns, no masks, no social distancing, and, most importantly, no vaccines. In short, nothing. They were obsessed with their reckless behavior all of last year and they haven't changed at all- and now there are virtually no restrictions still in place, just the presence of the vaccines available that they refuse to take (all for medical control of bodies unless it's about abortion or anything else they don't like people doing with them).

So...........are they just planning on COVID becoming an enduring and lifelong thing for our country (and the world)? Something that they're just planning to live with in perpetuity? Do they even care about getting rid of it entirely- or winnowing it down to the point where it's practically gone? If so, how do they propose to do it? I just don't get what they're hoping for. I'm sure that some of their resistance is about sticking it to Joe Biden and the Democrats and residual Trumpism but since it's mostly their (older) base getting infected with it, how is that going to benefit them in the long run? Are they just thinking short-term political gains and not even thinking about the long-term implications of their actions? WHAT IS THEIR ENDGAME regaring COVID?

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What is the Republican Solution to COVID (if there even is one)? (Original Post) Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 OP
There is no end game. It's all about the outrage that unites them. nature-lover Jul 2021 #1
There is none, because ''there is no problem,' elleng Jul 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #3
650k deaths of common people isn't a big deal to them. haele Jul 2021 #26
The COVID solution to Republicans. N/t Gaugamela Jul 2021 #4
The Tennessee Model. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #5
only less than one percent of their voters will die. They're okay with that number Johonny Jul 2021 #6
Their position is this: the masses can, and should, fuck off and die. RockRaven Jul 2021 #7
They will publish it in 2 weeks. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #8
COVID? What's COVID? You mean COVFEFE? NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #9
Uh more than 1% die IbogaProject Jul 2021 #10
Chaos... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #11
Same as their health care plan. moondust Jul 2021 #12
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ roamer65 Jul 2021 #13
Their same solution to every crisis. Tax cuts for the rich. Yavin4 Jul 2021 #14
Well, I know what the Democratic response to their dogma should be. We accept Darwin... NNadir Jul 2021 #15
Ignore it RainCaster Jul 2021 #16
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #17
Oh they have a solution: they want to kill us all! Initech Jul 2021 #18
"Natural immunity" Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #24
Yep, it's insane. If you really don't want the vaccine, you might avoid Covid tanyev Jul 2021 #19
Right wing media says COVID is no big deal sciencescience Jul 2021 #20
But then they turn around Mad_Machine76 Jul 2021 #25
They want life to be nasty, brutish, and short, for all but the wealthy. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #21
Herd mentality kysrsoze Jul 2021 #22
To ignore it because it hurts Biden politically liberalmediaaddict Jul 2021 #23
Repubs don't do "solutions" to problems. They exploit problems for power and money... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #27
Same as their healthcare plan. CrackityJones75 Jul 2021 #28

Response to Mad_Machine76 (Original post)

haele

(12,688 posts)
26. 650k deaths of common people isn't a big deal to them.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:36 AM
Jul 2021

GOP leadership - the money brokers - have already put a price tag on the population in general - and so long as they personally aren't affected at that particular moment, they won't care if it's 600k or 6 million dead. Not until it starts inconveniencing them.
Most think there's too many poors around anyway. They just need a compliant workforce that will drop out (die) quickly when the workers starts getting too expensive to maintain, pushing out enough kids to keep that workforce efficient over the years.
Other than that, GOP leadership don't care about the citizenship in general.
It's a plantation mentality. Profit off your slaves, then get rid of them when they can't make you a profit anymore.

Haele

Johonny

(20,934 posts)
6. only less than one percent of their voters will die. They're okay with that number
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jul 2021

Make no mistake, most GOP leaders have long ago been vaccinated. However, they are scared of their base and their base has latched onto Covid being 1) a hoax 2) not severe 3) a liberal scam 4) who fucking knows. Because of this, they will not push vaccines and allow FOX and company to drive their base into a bad situation. They will not shutdown, they will not quarantine. They will let them get hospitalized and die. Since 99% or so survive, the assumption is the survivors will assume Covid is survivable and the dead ones tell no tales. Of course such strategies in the past have shown to produce the worst economic outcomes. But they don't care because their base is delusional. They are frankly scared of their base. They need them, they abuse them, they use them, but they fear them to no end.

RockRaven

(15,061 posts)
7. Their position is this: the masses can, and should, fuck off and die.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:18 PM
Jul 2021

They literally don't care about the consequences of their words and (in)actions to other people. They only care about themselves, and even then only very short term timelines.

Why? How can this be so? It seems so illogical.

Because modern Repuke politics, rhetoric, propaganda, cable news, talk radio, social media creates a tremendous selection pressure. Anyone with concern for others, or concern for long term consequences, gets winnowed out. Fast. They aren't in office anymore. In Repuke politics, having morals or empathy or intellectual integrity are characteristics of unfitness. One's career is cut short by that, or never even begins. This is what the GQP has evolved into. Repukes in office are the most depraved politicians one can find because if they were any less depraved they would have lost that last primary to someone who was moreso, and their policies or lack thereof reflect that.

IbogaProject

(2,853 posts)
10. Uh more than 1% die
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:35 PM
Jul 2021

The case fatality ratio in the USA is ~2.8% not including injured survivors and or long haulers. This is more serious than it initially appeared as Americans are mostly not fit nor healthy.

Mike Nelson

(9,978 posts)
11. Chaos...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:40 PM
Jul 2021

... they believe COVID chaos will help bring down Biden. If we have more problems, they will blame Biden. Chaos, uncertainty, fear... crime, crime, crime... open borders...

Yavin4

(35,453 posts)
14. Their same solution to every crisis. Tax cuts for the rich.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:47 PM
Jul 2021

Truly. That's their one and only domestic policy item. Pandering to covid deniers and anti-vaxxers is a small price to pay for winning enough power to pass another tax cut for the rich.

If covid kills more people, so be it. Is it that much different than how many people die from our terrible healthcare system in general?

NNadir

(33,582 posts)
15. Well, I know what the Democratic response to their dogma should be. We accept Darwin...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

...as well as the value of vaccination.

Mad_Machine76

(24,450 posts)
24. "Natural immunity"
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:03 AM
Jul 2021

Means you have to GET Covid and survive it to get those sweet, sweet antibodies. And who actually WANTS to get sick (rhetorical)?

tanyev

(42,660 posts)
19. Yep, it's insane. If you really don't want the vaccine, you might avoid Covid
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jul 2021

with diligent masking and social distancing. If you can’t stand wearing a mask and staying home, you’ll probably be OK if you are fully vaccinated. But you can’t refuse to do all of it. You just can’t.

Mad_Machine76

(24,450 posts)
25. But then they turn around
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:05 AM
Jul 2021

And spin all of these conspiracy theories about China releasing it intentionally or unintentionally and all but calling for war with China over it.

Crunchy Frog

(26,698 posts)
21. They want life to be nasty, brutish, and short, for all but the wealthy.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 11:22 PM
Jul 2021

And they plan to arrange things in such a way that they won't really need voters anymore to stay in power.

As far as the rubes who are dying rather than getting vaccinated, I think it's just down to a nihilistic cultishness.

liberalmediaaddict

(778 posts)
23. To ignore it because it hurts Biden politically
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:06 AM
Jul 2021

They know the Biden administration has done an amazing job handling the vaccine rollout and reopening the country and his approval ratings show that

So they're trying to sabotage Biden by making sure he never meets his vaccination goals. I think they're hoping Biden and Democratic Governors are forced to issue stay at home orders and mask mandates again during the winter to keep hospitals from being overrun. Thinking it will help them win the midterms next year.

And they couldn't care less if Americans get sick or die unnecessarily Covid. They never have.

Wounded Bear

(58,765 posts)
27. Repubs don't do "solutions" to problems. They exploit problems for power and money...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021

Disaster capitalism, you know.

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