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House Majority Whip James Clyburn will be campaigning for Shontel Brown in Ohio (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 OP
Very good! hlthe2b Jul 2021 #1
Excellent! Ocelot II Jul 2021 #2
I am on the Just Us Democrats email list LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #4
Souls to the Polls LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #3
111111111! sheshe2 Jul 2021 #5
I would prefer all his energy be spent on voting rights. ColinC Jul 2021 #6
One of the candidates is not really a democrat LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #8
Has any Democrat ever caucused with a party besides the Democrats? Is there ColinC Jul 2021 #9
Nina has made some statements that will make it hard for her to work inside the party LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #12
Is there any reason to believe she will caucus with another party if elected? ColinC Jul 2021 #14
I think there is very good reason to believe that she would helpisontheway Jul 2021 #15
Saying negative things is not the same as caucusing with another party. ColinC Jul 2021 #16
Well, there's her American Conservative Union lifetime score as far as voting goes. betsuni Jul 2021 #18
Joe Manchin has 25 ColinC Jul 2021 #20
I would prefer a real Democrat be the nominee of the party LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #19
Purity tests are not helpful in times like this ColinC Jul 2021 #21
This is a safe/gerrymandered seat LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #22
As you said, it is a safe seat. ColinC Jul 2021 #23
I disagree strongly LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #24
.. ColinC Jul 2021 #25
Again you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #26
Still a subjective statement ColinC Jul 2021 #27
I disagree LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #28
I'm sure he can do both. n/t moonscape Jul 2021 #11
Nina Turner is not a Democrat. It matters. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #34
K&R UTUSN Jul 2021 #7
Several members of the CBC will be joining Rep. Clyburn LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #10
Good for Clyburn. Send Nina riding off into the sunset.🌅 oasis Jul 2021 #13
K&R betsuni Jul 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #29
Good, tired of that nasty not-a-dem poop head. we can do it Jul 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author we can do it Jul 2021 #31
This is a great email from Rep. Clyburn LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #32
This is interestting LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #33

Ocelot II

(115,746 posts)
2. Excellent!
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:33 PM
Jul 2021

I keep getting texts from Nina Turner's campaign asking for my money, which she won't get a nickel of, and I don't know how to make them stop.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
4. I am on the Just Us Democrats email list
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:37 PM
Jul 2021

The emails are really very sad and I enjoy laughing at the desperation in these amusing emails

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
6. I would prefer all his energy be spent on voting rights.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:56 PM
Jul 2021

Not sure what it'll matter if a Democrat beats another Democrat in this primary. Voting Rights are for more important.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
8. One of the candidates is not really a democrat
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jul 2021

One of the candidates in question campaigned for and voted for Jill Stein. The same candidate also tried to help re-elect TFG by stating that voting for Joe Biden is like eating a bowl of shit.

I agree with Rep. James Clyburn’s choice

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
9. Has any Democrat ever caucused with a party besides the Democrats? Is there
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 01:23 AM
Jul 2021

any indication that they will not caucus with the Democrats if they win? If not, then all candidates in this Democratic primary are Democrats, and Clyburn is using his time away from saving democracy over a race in which the party in question is already decided.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
14. Is there any reason to believe she will caucus with another party if elected?
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:40 AM
Jul 2021

Sounds like the answer is a resounding "no." In that case, we don't seem to need to be worrying about this seat going into the other party's hands. Therefore, the time would be best spent getting voting rights passed, and not fighting each other in a non election year.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
15. I think there is very good reason to believe that she would
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:44 AM
Jul 2021

not caucus with democrats. She is not a loyal democrat. She has said many negative things about the leaders of our party.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
16. Saying negative things is not the same as caucusing with another party.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:49 AM
Jul 2021

When she was a state senator, did she caucus with another party? Has she said she will not caucus with the Democrats if nominated as a Democrat?

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
18. Well, there's her American Conservative Union lifetime score as far as voting goes.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 05:44 AM
Jul 2021

It's 14.92.

Joe Biden's is 12.56, Barack Obama's 7.56, Hillary Clinton's 7.89, Bernie Sanders' 6.17. Yet Biden, Obama, Hillary have been regularly called centrist/moderate/corporate Democrats/neoliberals/Republican lite/corrupt/not progressive, etc. Why Turner wouldn't vote for Clinton and called Biden half a bowl of shit.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
20. Joe Manchin has 25
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jul 2021

Yet still caucuses with the Democrats and votes with them 99% of the time. Looks like this race is pretty clear, and we should probably worry about solving real problems like saving democracy instead of fighting each other.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
19. I would prefer a real Democrat be the nominee of the party
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:47 AM
Jul 2021

I am NOT a fan of the Just Us Democrats. This group is out to hurt the party by “remaking” the party. I fear the Nina will vote against bills sponsored ny the Biden administration due to her anger with the Biden administration

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
22. This is a safe/gerrymandered seat
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jul 2021

This is a primary contest in a gerrymandered/packed district that is not competitive in the general election. The Just Us Democrats keep pushing purity tests in their primary challenges (I am on the Just Us Democrat email list). I do not like the purity tests advocated by the Just Us Democrats and like to have a more mainstream member of the party holding this seat.

Nina both campaigned for and voted for Jill Stein. Nina has made some statements that are very objectionable but were also designed to help re-elect TFG. Nina also tried to organized a third party that was designed to hurt Democratic candidates. These are not purity tests but issues going to whether Nina would actually be a good officeholder who would try to help the party if she was elected

The choice is between having a real Democrat who will actually be part of the party and work with Joe Biden vs. having a Just Us Democrat type who will try to hurt the party. I am not a fan of the Just Us Democrats and would prefer a real Democrat. If this seat was competitive, I would still prefer Shontel Brown vs. Nina Turner in that Nina has a ton of baggage that would be used to depressed the turnout of real Democrats.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
23. As you said, it is a safe seat.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:33 PM
Jul 2021

Everybody here has a different idea of what a "real democrat" is, but at the end of the day unless there is a reason to think that they will caucus with another party, I would limit the amount of energy I put into a candidate, generally speaking.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
24. I disagree strongly
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:54 PM
Jul 2021

I have trouble with Just Us Democrats and people who campaigned for and voted for Jill Stein and who formed a third party designed to hurt the Democratic Party. Here I trust real Democrats like Majority Whip Clyburn, Hillary Clinton, the Jewish Democratic PAC and the CBC.

You can support someone who worked to first elect and then re-elect TFG I like candidates who are loyal members of the party

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
25. ..
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:02 PM
Jul 2021

Until I see evidence that any of the democrats running is likely to switch parties, i see this whole fight as an inability to get over old grudges over mean statements, instead of focus on saving democracy and prioritizing America.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
26. Again you are wrong
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jul 2021

Turner has such a long history that it is clear that she would not be a good member of the Democratic Party.

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
27. Still a subjective statement
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:08 PM
Jul 2021

I'm not talking about being a good member (which is not the most important issue here).I'm talking about this seat affecting our majority and focusing on people that effect issues like voting rights. Clyburn is fighting the good fight on voting rights, but I don't think it is a great distraction to focus on a primary race in a non election year instead of to keep pushing for voting rights.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,340 posts)
28. I disagree
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021

Nina campaigned for Jill Stein which is something a real Democrat would not do



I prefer a real Democrat who will work with President Joe Biden

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