Guardian Exclusive: Leaked Putin papers show plot to put a "mentally unstable" Trump in WH

[kpete]

The guardian is reporting that, according to Kremlin documents found to be genuine by Western intelligence agencies, in 2016 the Russians believed Trump was "mentally unstable," that they had kompromat on him, and that his election would lead to "social turmoil" in the U.S.

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This extract from a secret Kremlin document gives details of the Russian operation to help an impulsive and ‘mentally unstable’ Donald Trump to become US president

Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

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[joetheman]

1. This is so old 2016ish!

[dalton99a]

3. Kick

[Blues Heron]

4. I believe it

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. Have to wonder if this was leaked by the Kremlin on purpose.

I suspect that the Useful Idiot was no longer useful, but this information would certainly help to continue to further sow seeds of distrust between the Democrats and Trump Republicans.

[CrackityJones75]

10. Agreed.

I believe it was.

[Klaralven]

14. There are several possibilities

Western intelligence agencies are understood to have been aware of the documents for some months and to have carefully examined them. The papers, seen by the Guardian, seem to represent a serious and highly unusual leak from within the Kremlin.

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.

1. Genuine, obtained by spying, provided to MI-6, leaked by MI-6. In this case, there is a mole hunt going on in the Kremlin.

2. Genuine, leaked by SVR to MI-6, leaked by MI-6. Fanning the flames again, so to speak.

3. Fake, created by SVR, leaked by SVR to MI-6, leaked by MI-6. After all, who would be most competent to create fake Kremlin documents.

4. Fake, created by MI-6, leaked by MI-6. Keeping the US-Russia cold war going enhances the UK's role as a critical ally.

2 and 3 seem the most probable, with 3 slightly more so, since the description of the alleged Kompromat in Appendix 5 was not also leaked.

[Elessar Zappa]

43. What are SVR and MI-6?

[Caliman73]

46. spy agencies.

Russian and British respectively.

Russia - SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service)

Britain - MI-6 (Military Intelligence Section 6)

[ancianita]

56. Thanks for these.

I'd go for 2,3, and 4.

[JHB]

23. What I have my doubts of it doing is sowing seeds of division between...

...Trump Republicans and "grouse and complain about Trump but always knuckle under" Republicans.

It should, as dozens of other things over the past 5 years should have, but none of them will actually balk and break with them.

[roamer65]

55. Yes as agitprop.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I take this as evidence that Putin has now written off Trump completely

and sees no chance Trump can regain the presidency in 2024, Putin has moved on to showing the world how easy it is to manipulate America's democratic system, and implicitly bragging abut his success in doing so. That's why this "leak" is appearing. It's meant for consumption outside of the U.S. Putin knows that die hard American Trumpers will write this off as "fake news" and be undeterred in continuing to wreak whatever havoc that are still capable of on American democracy.

[Hugin]

7. It could also be a test by the Kremlin to see if the hook is set in the Trumpanzees...

If they brush this off. The sky is the limit as to the trouble they can cause on the world stage.

Also, yes, there's some chest beating going on with Pootie.

[Strelnikov_]

37. Good point n/t

[2Gingersnaps]

18. You have to wonder if the chest beating is worth

the amount of money on co-signed loans with Deutsche Bank. After four years of appealing all the way to the Supreme Court to keep his financials hidden, that ploy ran it's course at the beginning of this year when New York finally got his financials. The beginning of the end on that issue is working it's way through our court system now. It took way too much time, but eventually his sea of bullshit does tend to slam into the wall of reality. Dear God, yesterday's NRA Princess is now tormenting Navalny in prison for the boss. How obvious did Putty have to make it?

[yardwork]

35. I lean that way too.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

8. 📼

[FalloutShelter]

9. This makes me so angry.

EVERYTHING IS TRUE. ALL OF IT!
I just can't

[UpInArms]

11. From the article:

Moscow would gain most from a Republican victory, the paper states. This could lead to a “social explosion” that would in turn weaken the US president, it says. There were international benefits from a Trump win, it stresses. Putin would be able in clandestine fashion to dominate any US-Russia bilateral talks, to deconstruct the White House’s negotiating position, and to pursue bold foreign policy initiatives on Russia’s behalf, it says.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. they nailed it, didn't they?

[Beetwasher.]

12. Yee Haw! And Away We Go!

This will spark more investigations. Someone's leaky in Russia, hmmmm.....

[packman]

13. Two things I'd like to see

One, his pee tapes. Two, his take returns. - Well, maybe three, his ass in jail.

[yardwork]

36. You don't really want to SEE the pee tapes, do you?

[Poiuyt]

42. No one wants to see them, but unless they're released, Republicans won't believe they exist

[SergeStorms]

45. If they don't believe the earth is round....

or that we landed men on the moon, or that Joe Biden is the legitimate President of the United States........

There's no hope for those brainwashed mutants. They live in a separate, skewed reality.

[AwakeAtLast]

49. They'll call it "Fake Newz!"

You know they will! I wish I knew what it would take to make them see the truth!

[Aristus]

15. I don't know why anyone thinks kompromat would be effective in keeping Trump in line.

It's like Bill Murray said in "Tootsie": "Maybe if you did something really filthy and disgusting, they'd have to let you out of your contract. But I can't think of anything really filthy and disgusting that you haven't already done on your show."

[AZ8theist]

17. Of course Kompromat would work on Trump.

It's called "MONEY".

As in MONEY OWED and MONEY LAUNDERING.

[tinrobot]

19. Trump is an incredibly vain coward

There's plenty of stuff that could be used. Stuff that embarrasses him, stuff that shows he's a traitor, and stuff that proves he's a felon.

On top of that, it seems as though his aspirations for Trump Tower Moscow made him want to be Putin's bitch.

Seems to add up.

[malaise]

16. We knew this at DU

Lock him up,

[lindysalsagal]

32. Yes, we said it continuously, up and down every page.

Criminals are really quite obvious, if you're not brainwashed.

[lagomorph777]

20. I hope whoever leaked this is under some kind of protection.

[KS Toronado]

22. His election lead to "social turmoil" alright Jan 6th.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Monkey.

[RainCaster]

25. Let's see if the GOP starts looking for a new candidate

Are they stupid enough to stick with the Mango Mussolini after this exposition?

[certainot]

33. they're going to start finding out how ridiculous 'trump 2024' is as limbaugh's lack of control of

central messaging (spinning, rationalizing the denial, national scale repetition of lies, etc) on trump's behalf exposes his uselessness and weakness

[SergeStorms]

47. But they have Tucker in the wings....

and it seems like he's auditioning for the spot of national reich-wing propagandist. It all depends on where he'll make more money and gain more exposure and power. I don't know if Fox can offer him everything the "EIB" network can.

[certainot]

52. nah, no one can replace limbaugh. tucker is a frat boy diittohead who depended on limbaugh, like

most modern republicans, and is starting to fall apart.

[SergeStorms]

53. On the contrary...

I think Carlson is the only person who can successfully replace Limbaugh. He already has the name and face recognition, he's taken Hannity's spot as most watched Fox personality, and he's the biggest reich-wing, white grievance orator on the political right today.

And I should have put the emoji after the part about "EIB" being able to offer Carlson more than Fox. "EIB" was a construct from Limbaugh's oxycontin addled mind.

[dawn5651]

26. well now we know why the orange asshole looks like putin whipped him in that private meeting...

[Blue Owl]

27. Vladdy can go fuck himself

[SergeStorms]

48. Why would he do that?

He has the entire Trump family at his disposal.

[wiggs]

28. But I'm sure Russia couldn't have been involved in 2020 election, right?....nt

[peggysue2]

29. Nice to have confirmation of what we already knew

Anyone who watched the Helsinki meeting could draw the conclusion that 'whipped-dog Donnie' was a Putin asset. Which made the comparison of the Biden/Putin meeting photos and vids all the more dramatic. Putin went from a cat-who-ate-the canary' posture to a slouching, sulking bad boy.

As for the kompromat? Again, this is something everyone suspected but were told not to imagine. What would be real news would be kompromat on Republican senators and reps, the men and woman who turned from democracy and embraced fascism/autocracy so readily.

I'm looking at you, Lindsay Graham. And all the rest of the drumbeating GOP Trumpers who will not even recognize January 6th for what it was:

A push to overturn the government.

Ask General Milley for his opinion. He and the Joint Chiefs knew exactly what was going on that day and the days leading up to the insurrection.

Did we miss a bullet? Yes, by a frigging hair.

That being said there are more bullets out there, all aimed directly at our Republic.

[certainot]

30. talk radio is an essential tool for russia

russia has been using talk radio here since at least 2008, basically pulling limbaugh away from the rove GOP establishment. then he was essential for putting trump in, with trump getting sam nunberg to listen to “1000s of hours of talk radio” in 2014. it is incredibly irresponsible for a democracy to continue to allow 1500 coordiinated radio stations blast 50 mil/.week with unchallenged lying — and ignoring it all.

truly stupid, the biggest political mistake in history. analyzing politics without talk radio is like studying fish without water.

russsia used limbaugh (with manafort) to force palin on mccain in 2008, then to create ‘climategate’ in 2009 from a russian hack and wikileaks to sabotage obama at copenhagen climate conference. it goes back before 2016 and is still going on, although it got harder for them after limbaugh died — they only had to feed one blowhard but through breitbart etc they could feed others - they all followed limbaugh's lead though. their social media trolling ops pigggybacked years of established talk radio lies

russia’s probably been using talk radio in brazil, india, mexico and probably numerous other countries, especially poorer ones with large rural populations.

great for making COVID worse, like in red states

[sop]

31. Republicans are no longer the party of Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan.

They're the party of Hitler, Putin and Trump.

[samsingh]

34. how sick and mentally stable are republican supporters for voting for such an evil, stupid traitor?

[triron]

40. Or Jill Stein.

[sboatcar]

38. Methinks this is just the tip of the iceberg

Putin's got nothing to lose now by embarrassing Trump, and Trump was so stupid as to believe that this time it would be different. Just like Lucy with the football.

[triron]

39. And the Russians were so invested in this that they broke into voter databases but did nothing

with it. Yeah right.

[reACTIONary]

51. The voter database that was compromised...

... was public information. Anyone could purchase a copy of it from the sate. So they wasted their time on that.

[BlueWavePsych]

41. K&R

[Stuart G]

44. Thank You for posting this toon...Shows it all...

[triron]

50. knr

[roamer65]

54. The leaker is Putin.

It’s being released as agitprop.