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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:07 PM Jul 2021

Reported Kremlin Leak Appears to Confirm Existence of Trump 'Kompromat'

For years, there have been whispers that the Russian government holds compromising materials on Donald Trump. Now, an alleged leak from the heart of the Kremlin appears to show them boasting about “kompromat.”

The supposed leak obtained by The Guardian reportedly claims that President Vladimir Putin personally approved a nefarious plan to throw Russia’s support behind Trump’s 2016 campaign. The document states that Putin, his spy chiefs, and top ministers agreed that a victory for a “mentally unstable” Trump would permanently weaken the United States.

The document also reportedly states that the Kremlin has so-called kompromat—or damaging intelligence—on Trump. It cryptically refers to “certain events” that happened during “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory.” The purported leak doesn’t explain what those events involved—only referring to an appendix that wasn’t attached the obtained document.

The Daily Beast has not reviewed the supposed Kremlin leak, and The Guardian has not definitively proven it the be authentic. However, it has quoted experts on Russian spy agencies and Kremlin diplomacy who say they have no reason to doubt that the document is genuine. Some previous media allegations based on intelligence reports have ultimately proven to be wrong.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-leak-appears-confirm-existence-103305577.html

Leaked Kremlin documents support claim that Russia has compromising material on Trump, report says


Documents from a top-level Kremlin meeting in 2016 appear to say that Russia had compromising information about Donald Trump, then a presidential candidate, The Guardian reported on Thursday.

The documents are said to be from a Russian national security council meeting on January 22, 2016, attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin and top intelligence and military officials.

The Guardian said it took steps to verify the documents through expert analysis. It said they also included verifiable circumstantial details.

The newspaper said Western intelligence agencies were also aware of the documents.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaked-kremlin-documents-support-claim-121329216.html

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Reported Kremlin Leak Appears to Confirm Existence of Trump 'Kompromat' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
Is "leak" the key to solving this mystery? MerryHolidays Jul 2021 #1
Here's The Guardian article the Yahoo summarized emulatorloo Jul 2021 #2
I think we all pretty much know what it is. roamer65 Jul 2021 #3
"Some previous media allegations based on intelligence reports have ultimately proven to be wrong" Mr. Ected Jul 2021 #4
This seems a little too "pat" to me. It seems to ... Whiskeytide Jul 2021 #5
It was written in Russian bureaucratese. Igel Jul 2021 #6

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
2. Here's The Guardian article the Yahoo summarized
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021
Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

See also:

The person to ‘weaken’ America: what the Kremlin papers said about Trump
Documents appear to show how Russian intelligence worked to install their preferred candidate as president
Papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/the-person-to-weaken-america-what-the-kremlin-papers-said-about-trump

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. "Some previous media allegations based on intelligence reports have ultimately proven to be wrong"
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jul 2021

For Chrissakes, almost EVERY previous media allegation regarding this has been corroborated. The Steele dossier was a veritable road map for investigators and for good reason.

SO SICK OF MEDIA LIES.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
5. This seems a little too "pat" to me. It seems to ...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jul 2021

… corroborate the Steele dossier, but almost too perfectly. I’m hopeful this turns out to be legit, but I’m personally not going to hold my breath until we know at least a little more about the sources.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
6. It was written in Russian bureaucratese.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:41 PM
Jul 2021

Tough call whether it's true to form or a parody of bureaucratic language--such utterances always pretty much strike me as self-parodying.

As for kompromat, it's ambiguous. You want to read it that way, it's possible. You want to read it as just events showing instability and self-aggrandizement or depravity or sycophancy, you can read it that way. Rather depends on what's in the Addendum, par. 5.

Here are my ad hoc translations of the snippets in The Guardian. Most comments I've seen focus on excerpt one and rather ignore excerpt 2. It also takes about "enabling", which is rather different than "collaborating" with--but then again, there's excerpt 2. While Trump's election would weaken the negotiating position (per the doc), it's really undermining the system that's the golden apple. Much of the US intelligence assessment from a few years ago could have been based on these snips.

Excerpt 2:
... of social unrest, which inevitably would weaken the negotiating position of the future president and his administration. Given that the primary and most promising candidate for the post of president of the USA from the Republican Party is Donald John Trump, the personal profile of which (Addendum 5--personal profile of Donald J. Trump) characterizes him as a psychologically unstable, impulsive unbalanced person with an inferiority complex, actually holding to conservative views, and also taking into consideration certain events that happened during his unofficial stay in the RF (Addendum 5--personal profile of Donald J. Trump, paragraph 5), it is possible to state that in the framework of the current situation it is extremely necessary to devote all our efforts to enabling his election to the post of president of the United State since ...

Excerpt 2:
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Special Section
Exerting influence on the political systems of governments which played a key role in the introduction and expansion of sanctions with respect to the RF entails provoking a socio-political crisis in the USA. This can be effectively accomplished only by the realization of a theoretical scenario in which the following tasks must be accomplished:
a) Adjusting socio-political agendas in the USA by shifting their locus towards delegitimizing the governmental system and future elected president in the public consciousness.
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