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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:03 PM Jul 2021

Could there be a much larger conspiracy than anyone has imagined?

Could it be a conspiracy involving the entire Republican Party?

After the attack upon our Capitol, two-thirds of them still voted to not certify the election for Joe Biden. That smells all the way to Denmark.

We see conspiracies with Trump and white supremacists, with Rudy and the Russians, with Roger Stone and Wikileaks, but we might have over-looked the biggest conspiracy of all?

Otherwise, why would Republican leaders like McConnell and McCarthy and Scalise, rally behind the criminal ex-President? Maybe they are all in on it?

Maybe this is a conspiracy of a national political Party?

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Could there be a much larger conspiracy than anyone has imagined? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2021 OP
YES scarytomcat Jul 2021 #1
Bingo... I have been wondering the same ace3csusm Jul 2021 #2
AND WE HAVE A WINNER !!!! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #14
Some of them just want power but I'm sure that some are compromised renate Jul 2021 #17
So who was behind the hacking? wnylib Jul 2021 #29
This!👆 SheltieLover Jul 2021 #33
+1, ... and they're happy to work with the Russians too uponit7771 Jul 2021 #39
GOPer politicians are still worried trump could turn enough rubes against them. Hoyt Jul 2021 #3
Or use Rubles against them. nt woodsprite Jul 2021 #11
+1000 They all fear Rubes and Rubles! MLAA Jul 2021 #13
Well they ALL took the money from NRA FakeNoose Jul 2021 #4
Yup. Count on The Conspiracy being wide-spread and well-funded. abqtommy Jul 2021 #5
Duh, they're all listed right here on Wikipedia traitorsgalore Jul 2021 #6
Of course it is. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2021 #7
Russia needs a regime change. wnylib Jul 2021 #30
That's right, they did change their platform Ohioboy Jul 2021 #35
The all have dirt on each other sellitman Jul 2021 #8
On everyone bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #22
A four decade long conspiracy. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #9
Well, many of us did imagine it. 2naSalit Jul 2021 #10
Yes, we did, but I wish we had been wrong,. wnylib Jul 2021 #34
Well, yeah, me too. 2naSalit Jul 2021 #40
HRC was correct 30+ years ago. There is a vast right wing conspiracy and it continues now. madinmaryland Jul 2021 #12
What you posted. joetheman Jul 2021 #36
every day new shit stink's up D.C. bread crumb trail getting bigger !! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #15
Of course there is and many of them are kompromised...that is why they still have their noses up Escurumbele Jul 2021 #16
Their dream is total control KT2000 Jul 2021 #18
YUP Historic NY Jul 2021 #19
They are trying to convince people that it did not already happen so pwb Jul 2021 #20
Greed, privilege, worship of money and capitalism, and TFG billionaire bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #21
Who are their donors??? Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #23
Absolutely Traildogbob Jul 2021 #24
They went over there as tourists. Mr. Evil Jul 2021 #26
Ha Traildogbob Jul 2021 #31
They're so horny for a Fascist Theocratic Autocracy, Mr. Evil Jul 2021 #25
Totally agree with you on this ace3csusm Jul 2021 #45
We at DU, are sometimes so way ahead of everyone else Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #27
This is the conspiracy of dark money, and Sheldon Whitehouse proved that SCOTUS is their tool. ancianita Jul 2021 #28
They have been working it for years. liberal N proud Jul 2021 #32
The 2012 autopsy said they had to share power with black people if they wanted to stay in office Hamlette Jul 2021 #37
Certainly, we know there IS. Great "teaser" question, k'tuck... slumcamper Jul 2021 #38
They are not loyal to Тяцмр. They have to ... Whiskeytide Jul 2021 #41
Only if drooling stupidity is a conspiracy /nt jimlup Jul 2021 #42
Not a conspiracy--lack of integrity Buckeyeblue Jul 2021 #43
That is not larger than I have imagined. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #44
Yep I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2021 #46

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
2. Bingo... I have been wondering the same
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

I all goes back to the RNC hacking, they never released any material also dont for get all those that went to Russia on 4th of July...They must have alot of info on them they have been compromised...

renate

(13,776 posts)
17. Some of them just want power but I'm sure that some are compromised
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jul 2021

Lindsay Graham, for example, is contemptible now, but in the Before Times he was a person who cared so much about Joe Biden that it brought him to tears. He’s always been a Republican but there must be something going on there.

wnylib

(21,493 posts)
29. So who was behind the hacking?
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jul 2021

Who collected the compromising information to force compliance in the Republican party? Was it Putin? Or was it someone within the US? Did one person (TFG) make a deal with Putin to get GOP support behind him? Or was there a group of people who searched for help in gaining power back for the GOP and found it in Putin and the Russian mob?

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
4. Well they ALL took the money from NRA
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jul 2021

... even though they all knew the bulk of it came from Russia. So yeah, they are all compromised.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
7. Of course it is.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 07:47 PM
Jul 2021

They are complicit. They changed their platform in 2016 at Russia’s request. They are owned by our enemies.

Escurumbele

(3,396 posts)
16. Of course there is and many of them are kompromised...that is why they still have their noses up
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:04 PM
Jul 2021

the buffoon's ass.

That is why they don't want a January 6, 2021 investigation...Like they used to say when the NSA thing was going on "if you don't have anything to hide why would you be worried?" Well, they have a lot to hide, they ARE worried.

KT2000

(20,584 posts)
18. Their dream is total control
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:05 PM
Jul 2021

whatever and whoever gets them there they will stand behind. Russians, Koch Brothers, criminals, voting restrictions, control of women's bodies, corrupted religions, etc.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
20. They are trying to convince people that it did not already happen so
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jul 2021

they can try again. Pukes will lose big from now on IMO. Independents are with us.

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
21. Greed, privilege, worship of money and capitalism, and TFG billionaire
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jul 2021

Of course they would worship a super rich guy. But would Mitt Romney have sparked the same exaltation?

It's about power, strangulating democracy for greed, thievery of public assets for private interests, and enslaving all. If you aren't at the top of anything, you are not important to them.

Traildogbob

(8,758 posts)
24. Absolutely
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jul 2021

Elected officials July 4th trip to Moscow, Rand Paul trip to Moscow, Mosco Mitch Russian Aluminum factory, Ron Johnson was on the 4th trip. Manifort ties, it goes so fucking deep. Our country is still in progress of being conquered by Putin for cash. GQP pushing for Putin style elections, Russian trolls brainwashing the brainless. USR..USR…USR!!!

Traildogbob

(8,758 posts)
31. Ha
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jul 2021

We have a minor league baseball team here in Asheville. Called the Tourists. I’ve not seen them in years and refuse to watch local Sinclair propaganda news. I wonder if their uniforms are plastered with Trump emblems, Back the Blue flags, and confederate flags like the Capital tourists uniforms?

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
25. They're so horny for a Fascist Theocratic Autocracy,
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:33 PM
Jul 2021

they forget who's supposed to lead the daily circle jerk of crazy.

I also believe that all the screaming about Dominion voting systems is/was just a distraction. It's ES&S voting tabulations that should be looked at.

I know assumption is usually the mother of all fuckups but, always assume whenever a republican is talking (or just breathing) they're lying, cheating and/or projecting (or they're thinking about lying, cheating and/or projecting).

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. We at DU, are sometimes so way ahead of everyone else
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jul 2021

If we, en masse, thought it was an 8, it is likely a 10. Smoke, there's always fire in politics.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
37. The 2012 autopsy said they had to share power with black people if they wanted to stay in office
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:00 PM
Jul 2021

they didn't like that. Then Trump showed them pricks can win the highest office.

They see that as their choice: be a prick like Trump or share power.

Authoritarianism starts by setting up an "us" vs "them" situation. It's harder to say horrid things about Jews and blacks but you can say that Dems eat babies. "Us" vs "them". Then you eat around the edges: start riots, say the election was stolen by the baby eaters, restrict voting, gerrymander the shit out of the country. They always wanted it this way, whether Russia has the goods on them or not. Trump just showed them if you want power, you can just take it. Just like all dictators do.

My question is, who can be the next Trump? DeSantis? Tucker? Junior? Is there another person out there that 74 million americans will consider a god? Is it possible that there is no other person who can do what Trump did?

Some of the reasons it worked for Trump is we were blindsided. When he came down the escalator I didn't think he's win the nomination let alone get elected. I'm hoping that the next one who tries will not bet all the free press that Trump got. I don't see Joe and Mika having Tucker calling ini every morning.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
38. Certainly, we know there IS. Great "teaser" question, k'tuck...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jul 2021

A corollary question is why isn't the national Democratic Party leadership and key members making the case (yet)?

I suspect it has all to do with timing, and the special committee on Jan. 6 is a key element in the strategy to get to a point where said conspiracy is more than speculation or allegation. I recall Biden referencing "timing"; this "drama" is in some part about that, too.

I'd prefer we unleash the "terrible swift sword," but prudence demands patience. Meanwhile I and many more seethe with unrest.




Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
41. They are not loyal to Тяцмр. They have to ...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:17 PM
Jul 2021

… kiss up to him because they can’t win elections without his fans. Not fawning over Тяцмр means losing a primary. He has them by the short hairs. I really think it’s that simple.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
43. Not a conspiracy--lack of integrity
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:46 AM
Jul 2021

Republicans are win at any cost. Because their margin of victory is so thin, they can't afford to reject the crazies who may vote for them.

This is why country club elites glad hand poor white extremist Christians. They don't share anything in common except the person they vote for.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
44. That is not larger than I have imagined.
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 10:51 AM
Jul 2021

It is exactly what I have assumed for years, based on their behavior.

The Reptilian Party has merged with the United Russia party.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
46. Yep
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:50 PM
Jul 2021

And I think a lot of corporates , rich people and churches are involved in this fascist shit too. I think it goes really deep.

I wish we could root it all out and expose it all.
End this bullshit.

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