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drray23

(7,662 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 08:52 PM Jul 2021

I think Abbott will fail

in his quest to get those drastic voter suppression laws to pass. Democrats are in DC for the next 30 days. I do not think Abbott can easily keep calling 30 days legislative sessions back to back until he gets what he wants.
First off, this is also affecting the Republicans lawmakers. They likely have jobs ( being a state rep in Texas is not a full time job and they get about 7000 per year) and won't want to go along indefinitely with that.

Secondly, it is supposed to be used for emergency sessions . What Abbott wants to do is not emergency. There might be a legal challenge to his continuous calling of special sessions if he keeps at it.

Thirdly, the longer the Texas dems stay in DC, the more pressure they apply and keep it in the news. Eventually they will convince even Manchin to go along with a voting rights bill.

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I think Abbott will fail (Original Post) drray23 Jul 2021 OP
very proud of those Texas Dems Skittles Jul 2021 #1
We should take a group photo of them to show the MAGAts. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #2
Absolutely. ancianita Jul 2021 #10
We should call this "The Texas Filibuster"-- viva la Jul 2021 #3
Except they are going to have a planned meet again in the fall for redistricting. Liberal In Texas Jul 2021 #4
This is quite literally what this is about... herding cats Jul 2021 #6
If you remember lees1975 Jul 2021 #15
Your memory is a little faulty - and the courts won't redraw the legislative maps FBaggins Jul 2021 #17
Now he knows how it feels to have a filibuster. Hamlette Jul 2021 #5
Hope abides! LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #7
We can only hope he will fail Dakota Flint Jul 2021 #8
We can hope catrose Jul 2021 #11
"gang raped?" North Shore Chicago Jul 2021 #16
Sorry if I offend your very delicate sensibilities Dakota Flint Jul 2021 #20
"very delicate sensibilities" North Shore Chicago Jul 2021 #21
Manchin is the center of the Universe at the moment. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #9
A legend in his own mind RainCaster Jul 2021 #13
He really is spectacularly stupid Warpy Jul 2021 #12
He never said "arrested and jailed" FBaggins Jul 2021 #18
Yes. But I think it's more likely they will peel off a republican or two rather than Manchin. nt wiggs Jul 2021 #14
That wouldn't get it done FBaggins Jul 2021 #19
Grandstanding with 2024 in mind? Amishman Jul 2021 #22

Skittles

(153,936 posts)
1. very proud of those Texas Dems
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:11 PM
Jul 2021

this is democracy being directly threatened....we HAVE to take a stand

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. We should take a group photo of them to show the MAGAts.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:15 PM
Jul 2021

"Do you want to see what REAL patriots look like? This is what they look like! Fighting for our Democracy and our freedom instead of sucking up to traitorous Russian assets."

viva la

(3,455 posts)
3. We should call this "The Texas Filibuster"--
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jul 2021

The minority party in the legislature has to leave to assert its right to have a voice.

Liberal In Texas

(13,748 posts)
4. Except they are going to have a planned meet again in the fall for redistricting.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jul 2021

When that happens this voter suppression thing will probably be the first thing introduced to hell with reapportionment until that's done.

Maybe kicking the can down the road enough will give time for the US Senate to get it's act together and pass voting rights legislation.

herding cats

(19,575 posts)
6. This is quite literally what this is about...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:28 PM
Jul 2021

Giving the US Senate time to get its act together.

I do hope it works, but while proud of my local Democrats I'm still worried of the final outcome. At least we're trying to bring attention and a spotlight to the matter, though. ❤️

lees1975

(4,052 posts)
15. If you remember
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:32 PM
Jul 2021

the Democrats in the legislature left the state in 2009 over re-apportionment. Ultimately, the courts had to step in and rule on that. The last thing they want is for Democrats to walk out of that and let the deadline pass so that the courts get to set the reapportionment lines. They lose a lot of seats in the legislature at that point. I think the Democrats may actually be getting close to pulling off a statewide election victory in Texas.

FBaggins

(26,999 posts)
17. Your memory is a little faulty - and the courts won't redraw the legislative maps
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jul 2021

The "Texas 11" failed in 2009 when one of them broke ranks and republicans passed their redistricting maps. Court involvement was because one of those districts was found to be unconstitutional and a small handful were redrawn (5?).

But that doesn't apply to the state legislature maps. There's a step in that process between the state legislature and the courts:

If the legislature fails to draw maps, there's a backup commission that gets tasked with drawing them. All five members of that commission are republicans.

There's little chance that they can stay out of state long enough to keep this from passing. Their only real hope is convincing Congress to help them. A passingly fading chance.

Hamlette

(15,415 posts)
5. Now he knows how it feels to have a filibuster.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jul 2021

The Texas Dems are doing the same thing the GOP is doing with the filibuster in Congress.

Sucks doesn't it?

 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
8. We can only hope he will fail
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jul 2021

We can only hope he will be in jail
We can only hope he will spend the rest of his fracking miserable life there.
Gang-raped daily.

 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
20. Sorry if I offend your very delicate sensibilities
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:32 PM
Jul 2021

but that is an unfortunate fact of life in modern US prisons.

Warpy

(111,802 posts)
12. He really is spectacularly stupid
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jul 2021

By announcing the Democrats will be arrested when the return to Texas, he removed any incentive for them to do so. If they are arrested and jailed on their return to Texas, there still won' t be a quorum in the lege.

Abbott was definitely behind the door when the brains were handed out.

Amishman

(5,570 posts)
22. Grandstanding with 2024 in mind?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jul 2021

I could see it as a ploy to increase his standing and name recognition within the Right.

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