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gulliver

(13,192 posts)
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:26 PM Jul 2021

Lie repellent phrases for use on Republicans

Who told you that? (Forces them to point the finger at someone or admit they made it up themselves.)

Give me an example. (Forces them to be specific and enter the fact-based realm where they are often helpless.)

Can you show your work on that answer? (Lets you see that they didn't give due diligence, or made a dumb mistake in their work, or even reported a lie when their work showed them the true answer.)

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Are there others?

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Lie repellent phrases for use on Republicans (Original Post) gulliver Jul 2021 OP
Source, please. Phoenix61 Jul 2021 #1
Works here too (at least sometimes) Disaffected Jul 2021 #11
Used the first two on CRT question from MIL. onecaliberal Jul 2021 #2
Prove it. blm Jul 2021 #3
Can you prove that? Ocelot II Jul 2021 #4
Unfortunately True, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2021 #8
If they make a mistake and can blame it on their source... gulliver Jul 2021 #13
Pull your head out of your ass... lame54 Jul 2021 #5
I tell 'em to pull their head out of the Foxhole. n/t Mister Ed Jul 2021 #14
"How do you know?" GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #6
"Cite your sources" Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #7
Saw this one yesterday in an article recommended by our Hortensis: Atticus Jul 2021 #9
I just tell them Rorey Jul 2021 #10
Yes ... marble falls Jul 2021 #12
I often use, "do you REALLY believe that?" FSogol Jul 2021 #15
Thanks for this thread Leith Jul 2021 #16
Are you purposefully lying 🤥 or just making it up for fun. Funtatlaguy Jul 2021 #17

Disaffected

(4,568 posts)
11. Works here too (at least sometimes)
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jul 2021

for republican trolls, UFO believers and alternative medicine advocates.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
2. Used the first two on CRT question from MIL.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jul 2021

I could see my questions were making her think about it. I asked her to give me an example of it happening in classrooms. She was unable to give me even one example. Like everything else coming from the GQP nothing they say can hold water. Very easily debunked.

Ocelot II

(115,831 posts)
4. Can you prove that?
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jul 2021

What do you know about your sources, and why do you trust them?

But seriously, I don't think anything will work on a lot of them. People get emotionally invested in what they believe to be true, and the harder you challenge them the more they dig in. Nobody wants to be proven wrong, and if especially if someone has acted in accordance with erroneous beliefs, accepting that those beliefs were incorrect can be so uncomfortable and embarrassing that they will try harder than ever to avoid changing their minds.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
8. Unfortunately True, Ma'am
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:47 PM
Jul 2021

As someone said: "You can't reason a man out of a view he didn't reason himself into."

I do enjoy an approach along the lines of 'Hey, if you were right, sweetheart, you'd be dead in a swamp.'

gulliver

(13,192 posts)
13. If they make a mistake and can blame it on their source...
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jul 2021

...it increases the odds that they'll accept the truth, imo. For Republican leaders, the underlying assumption is that they know they're lying. They've more than lost the presumption of good faith. So they're fair game and cornering them is not only satisfying but almost a duty.

For others, especially friends and family, I think the assumption should always be that they were misinformed or trusted someone they shouldn't trust in the future.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
9. Saw this one yesterday in an article recommended by our Hortensis:
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jul 2021

"If they put your (source's) brain into a bumblebee, it would fly backwards and land upside down in a tar pit!"

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
10. I just tell them
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jul 2021

I get my news from legitimate news sources, not entertainment television like FoxNews and the like.

marble falls

(57,177 posts)
12. Yes ...
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jul 2021

Before I respond, you tell me who really won the November election.

Better to live in fear than to die in stupidity.

From which University did (MT Greene, Matty Gaetz, Ron Johnson, etc.) get their immunology education?


The 'where did you hear that' is a great showstopper. Shut my loud mouth brother up. He's threatened to send his son to live with us, said he was sounding too much like my wife and myself. He's a good kid, and I got a good room for him, anytime!

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