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Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:26 PM Aug 2021

Hear me out before you jump up and down. Cuomo must resign.

I know some will be on me like stink on shit because I think this is the right thing to do. Read on.

One

I have always had great respect for the Cuomos, particularly Mario. He would have been a great president or Supreme Court Justice. But, very suddenly, he pulled himself out of contention and consideration. No one seems to know the real answer why - just surmise and speculation. So I will speculate. Someone knew something bad enough that would "be a shame if people knew." Mario did what he did and stayed quiet about it. To this day I think the loser in all this was the country, denied of his intellect and heart.

Two

Now to son Andrew. It follows that where there is smoke there is often fire. To be sure, right now, there are only allegations and accusations. There is controversy and only now a counter narrative. For my own part, I honestly have no idea what the truth is. I want him to be innocent. No matter - here, on August 6, 2021, is where we find ourselves. Talk of bipartisan impeachment. A credible defense starting to form. A criminal complaint sworn in Albany County.

Three

Unrelated, or not, is the plight of Gavin Newsom. The recall is real and looking worse and worse for him. And therefore worse and worse for California and, really, for all of us.

Four

Republican governors are swinging meat cleavers to voting rights in populous/high electoral vote Florida and populous/high electoral vote Texas. This can easily get worse and more widespread. We really need to think of the current situation as an existential threat. No hyperbole intended. THIS.IS.SERIOUS.

Five

New York and California have both had Republican governors and they have had them relatively recently. If they get them now, I think it could be GAME OVER. The four most populous and electoral vote rich states in the hands of TFG acolytes. You think that's not possible? Think again.

Six

California makes me very nervous. I really don't know what to make of the last poll I saw, with Recall winning by 11%. If that doesn't scare you, read Number Seven.

Seven

Current polling shows an overwhelming percentage of New York voters unhappy with Cuomo, with a lot of them favoring impeachment. I really think the longer Cuomo hangs in against the obvious, the more it will hurt ANY Democrat's chances of beating whatever Right Winger gets the dark money funding to oppose him.





This threat can be averted, at least in New York, if Cuomo resigns - guilty or not. This is too dangerous and clearly too important, for us to let Democratic politics take precedence to WINNING. By way of historical object lessons, consider Bill Clinton. He hung in there. Al Gore and Hillary Clinton paid the price - AS DID THE COUNTRY.

Don't make assumptions about where I am coming from. I STILL like Bill Clinton and I STILL like the Cuomos. But sometimes ya just gotta do what ya gotta do.


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Hear me out before you jump up and down. Cuomo must resign. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Aug 2021 OP
A guy with class would've already resigned. But then a guy with class wouldn't be in this abqtommy Aug 2021 #1
Hmm, you are an arbiter of class... tavernier Aug 2021 #10
I agree snowybirdie Aug 2021 #2
So, y'all think this would shame the GOP into turning on their sexual evil doers? nt aka-chmeee Aug 2021 #3
You wish to subscribe... tonedevil Aug 2021 #4
My own morals are not an issue aka-chmeee Aug 2021 #5
The plain answer to your question... tonedevil Aug 2021 #7
I had (and still have) a very high regard for Governor Mario Cuomo FakeNoose Aug 2021 #6
I will gladly see Mr. Cuomo in jail tavernier Aug 2021 #8
I totally agree that Cuomo should resign; but YOUR reasoning collapses... brooklynite Aug 2021 #9
There are many smart, talented men who don't do what he did. Blue_true Aug 2021 #11

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. A guy with class would've already resigned. But then a guy with class wouldn't be in this
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:49 PM
Aug 2021

mess in the first place.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
7. The plain answer to your question...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:56 PM
Aug 2021

nothing in recent history would suggest there is a Republican with any shame what so ever. Why does it matter? I'm sorry I jumped to the conclusion that you were suggesting we should do the same as them and be sanguine when our leaders break rules and violate the people who work for them. Now, I admit I have no idea what you were driving at.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
6. I had (and still have) a very high regard for Governor Mario Cuomo
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:53 PM
Aug 2021

... however I have learned to separate my warm feelings for the father from my cool regard for the son. Like you, I believe Andrew must resign, even though I can see this COULD BE a set-up from Day One. I'm not sure it is a setup, but it certainly benefits the Repukes of NY, in any case.

The longer this draws out, the more it hurts the Democrats. That's all I have to say.

tavernier

(12,401 posts)
8. I will gladly see Mr. Cuomo in jail
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:02 PM
Aug 2021

Directly following Mr. Trump and Mr. Gaetz.

Hey, first come, first serve.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
9. I totally agree that Cuomo should resign; but YOUR reasoning collapses...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:03 PM
Aug 2021

1. There is nothing beyond your speculation that “something” was hanging over Mario Cuomo’s head when he was considering running for President. If you believe that (absent evidence) explain why it didn’t get thrown out in his 1994 re-election campaign?

2. Given “1”, there’s no argument for “2”.

3-6. New York has NOTHING to do with California. And even in Republicans won in CA and NY, there would be huge limits to their ability to accomplish radical policies because the Democrats have supermajorities in both legislative chambers.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. There are many smart, talented men who don't do what he did.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:15 PM
Aug 2021

We are the party that defend women’s right to be free of workplace harassment. It is ok if a guy thinks a woman is hot for him and she is not, as long as he doesn’t touch her and stop going after her when it should be clear that she is not interested. But a guy that has a pattern of abuse of power toward female subordinates should not get off free after doing such a thing.

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