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Sympthsical

(9,003 posts)
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:23 PM Aug 2021

President Obama's birthday party was a bad idea

The Right is having an absolute field day with it. Of course photos and videos got out. That was inevitable. People crowded together around the dance floor. No masks. Social distancing non-existent.

You know who was wearing masks? The staff. What a great optic.

Sigh. This was totally foreseeable.

People don't like this stuff. "Rules for thee but not for me." That's a nice chunk of why Newsom got himself in trouble in California. I don't think people from out of state understand the pure rage people had when he and London Breed got nailed for their behavior. Not just Republicans, either. Nearly everyone. Certainly everyone I know.

This stuff hurts us. It hurts our efforts.

The politicians and famous people on our side need to abide by the rules and recommendations given to everyone else. If you give someone an order, then you yourself don't follow it, it pisses people off. Even the ones who are inclined to be on your side.

I know we don't like to call out our own, but why this completely predictable chum thrown into the water for our opponents?

This was stupid.

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President Obama's birthday party was a bad idea (Original Post) Sympthsical Aug 2021 OP
President Obama is not a public official. jcgoldie Aug 2021 #1
We rip people who are not public officials for having large gatherings every day. n/m BradAllison Aug 2021 #4
We don't "rip" Barack Obama on DU every day jcgoldie Aug 2021 #22
What does that have to do with anything? BradAllison Aug 2021 #27
Du did when he was POTUS krawhitham Aug 2021 #107
This is a one-day story if that. Let's carry on. brush Aug 2021 #41
Perhaps you'd like to tell us that Obama is a used car salesman Orrex Aug 2021 #198
I hope this is sarcasm BradAllison Aug 2021 #202
LOL... then no more mention of trump here either... n/t Fix The Stupid Aug 2021 #5
The right will be outraged at Obama if he reaches over the sneezeguard jcgoldie Aug 2021 #9
The Left will be outraged at trump if he reaches over the sneezeguard Fix The Stupid Aug 2021 #11
Doesn't he already do what he wants? LisaL Aug 2021 #14
who? trump or Obama? n/t Fix The Stupid Aug 2021 #16
If it wasn't for Trump countingbluecars Aug 2021 #23
You really have to ask? Solomon Aug 2021 #196
Apparently. Treefrog Aug 2021 #31
Which one is running for public office... jcgoldie Aug 2021 #15
Trump is a un-American pos. He should be locked up for the rest of his life. rockfordfile Aug 2021 #91
? choie Aug 2021 #12
Lol, nice try, he is a democratic figure!!!! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #43
...who can be critized (without it being "bashing") for poor policy choices. brooklynite Aug 2021 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Aug 2021 #48
Criticism is one thing, being called stupid is another. George II Aug 2021 #129
Allegedly vaccinated... LanternWaste Aug 2021 #138
Neither is Trump fescuerescue Aug 2021 #75
There is no equivalence. jcgoldie Aug 2021 #103
I would prefer to NOT elevate Trump fescuerescue Aug 2021 #154
No but he still lectures and gives advise and he needs to make sure his conduct is impecable Escurumbele Aug 2021 #90
You're not signing his card dweller Aug 2021 #2
There are no orders right now that would prevent an individual from having a party or do whatever. LisaL Aug 2021 #3
Lead by example? and not allow the repubs to make this into a big issue which they will? Escurumbele Aug 2021 #92
I thought it was scaled down BradAllison Aug 2021 #6
It was scaled down to a really large party. LisaL Aug 2021 #10
Because if he hadn't had that danged party, the right would not come after us ... StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #7
This doesn't only bother the Right Sympthsical Aug 2021 #17
lol. yup, that has to be why those pesky republicans are behaving so badly toward us, because JohnSJ Aug 2021 #25
That isn't my issue LeftInTX Aug 2021 #60
Obama is out of F's to give about what the GOP thinks of him. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #8
Interesting take BradAllison Aug 2021 #18
I myself would not throw a big party right now. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #28
Well, the virus doesn't judge either BradAllison Aug 2021 #37
Thank you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #34
Oh I'm not surprised you do. n/m BradAllison Aug 2021 #39
Good to know, Brad. Treefrog Aug 2021 #52
these apologists make me sick Skittles Aug 2021 #178
Avoiding large gatherings, mask wearing,etc., are matters of public health Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #111
Definately - There Should Be A Commission To Investigate And He Should Be Impeached..... global1 Aug 2021 #13
Odds are that everyone in attendance was vaxxed. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #19
Yes they were JohnSJ Aug 2021 #26
But this isn't just about the right. It's about what's right, and the fact that regular Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #35
Link and quote the rule to mask up and avoid crowd when everyone is vaxed? tia uponit7771 Aug 2021 #183
Link to proof that everyone was vaxed? tia Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #200
I certainly hope so BradAllison Aug 2021 #40
It was scaled back, outdoors, and had a covid coordinator to check status. quaint Aug 2021 #20
+++++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2021 #21
Health protocols . . . Lovie777 Aug 2021 #30
+1 chowder66 Aug 2021 #77
It was not "outdoors" former9thward Aug 2021 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #147
That was outdoors correct? Slicing onions for the sake of food uponit7771 Aug 2021 #188
Not for covid it is not. former9thward Aug 2021 #199
If it had him and his wife over Skype from different coats, they would have had complaints. Nexus2 Aug 2021 #148
The right also had a field day with his tan suit. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #24
Fully vaxxed individuals are being infected. Half a dozen threads on it here everyday. Treefrog Aug 2021 #29
Outdoor tents. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #95
COVID is not a political matter. It is a matter of public health. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #132
Going above and beyond prevailing CDC guidance is not political. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #165
It was irresponsible. Period. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #168
In your opinion. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #206
So Obama follow protocol? tia uponit7771 Aug 2021 #184
Michelle sleeveless dresses too . . . Lovie777 Aug 2021 #33
THREAD WINNER! Excellent Advice, TY! Cha Aug 2021 #76
... George II Aug 2021 #79
I am not sure we should be celebrating this kind of thing. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #151
Just days ago we were rec'ing threads about un-masked Representative Norman getting Covid. progressoid Aug 2021 #88
And that GOP representative was not following the guidance applied to him. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #98
It wasn't outdoors. progressoid Aug 2021 #106
Yeah, in a tent -- outdoors. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #120
Bwahahaha. progressoid Aug 2021 #125
No, it's really not. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #205
And? President Obama followed the CDC guidelines and then some. He proved they work..... George II Aug 2021 #155
Did he prove it? progressoid Aug 2021 #162
You're calling former President Barack Obama a liar or deceitful? George II Aug 2021 #164
Literally never said that. progressoid Aug 2021 #166
He held his event in full compliance with CDC guidelines and more. There were no outbreaks.... George II Aug 2021 #169
I questioned "your" statement that he proved it. progressoid Aug 2021 #170
Again, he held the event in compliance with CDC guidelines and there was no outbreak... George II Aug 2021 #171
Again, how do you know there was no outbreak? progressoid Aug 2021 #172
Why are you questioning everything said here? Seems like you have something against.... George II Aug 2021 #173
Snort. progressoid Aug 2021 #175
It was a stupid, stupid unforced error. themaguffin Aug 2021 #108
No, it wasn't. W_HAMILTON Aug 2021 #121
YES IT WAS Skittles Aug 2021 #177
Exactly themaguffin Aug 2021 #195
Obama follows the rules and is still an error?;??! Who are you trying to please? uponit7771 Aug 2021 #185
Sigh themaguffin Aug 2021 #194
LMFAO sarcasmo Aug 2021 #32
Well? Were the guests vaxed & covid testwd before entering the island property? Budi Aug 2021 #36
Enough! agingdem Aug 2021 #58
K & R. I got nothing more to add. Budi Aug 2021 #63
Thank you, agingdem Glorfindel Aug 2021 #84
Mic drop 👏 dixiechiken1 Aug 2021 #89
THANK YOU!!!!!! crimycarny Aug 2021 #110
+1, uponit7771 Aug 2021 #187
Yep. Kingofalldems Aug 2021 #73
+1 same hand ringers who worry about tan suits are concerned about this uponit7771 Aug 2021 #186
All fully vaccinated and outdoors. blm Aug 2021 #38
They were crowded up in tents Sympthsical Aug 2021 #45
I agree and I believe lots of tents were involved it was not strictly an outdoor event at all LeftInTX Aug 2021 #42
Tsk, tsk! "I know we don't like to call out our own, but..." FSogol Aug 2021 #44
If you think only the right-wing gets mad about this stuff Sympthsical Aug 2021 #47
I dislike it. Treefrog Aug 2021 #50
Just looked up that 'Rules for thee and not for me' quote. Kingofalldems Aug 2021 #74
Honeybunch, that quote has been around forever. Treefrog Aug 2021 #94
But there are no rules and guidelines right now that would prevent someone from having a party. LisaL Aug 2021 #51
If you think the left is staying home and the right is out partying except for a few examples FSogol Aug 2021 #53
Well, hospitals are full also. LisaL Aug 2021 #62
+1, Correct. n/t FSogol Aug 2021 #64
Where do you get that ? treestar Aug 2021 #100
Which one is that? Budi Aug 2021 #115
Former President Barack Obama and his guests did not violate the current CDC guidelines. George II Aug 2021 #128
it's mind-boggling Skittles Aug 2021 #179
I don't give a fuck what the right wing noise machine says. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #49
K & R Thank You! Budi Aug 2021 #54
I'm concerned about the attendees. StarryNite Aug 2021 #55
Heh UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #56
Was he wearing a tan suit? Was Michelle in a sleeveless dress? Hekate Aug 2021 #57
If they were all vaccinated I don't care Calculating Aug 2021 #59
Have you not been reading the dozen or so threads here about vaxxed people getting sick? Treefrog Aug 2021 #102
Not anecdotal iemanja Aug 2021 #145
Still a very small portion of vaccinated people having breakthrough cases. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #146
then you're the one relying on anecdote iemanja Aug 2021 #157
I am not saying that anecdote is proof. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #158
There are some studies that show limited effectiveness against delta iemanja Aug 2021 #159
Anecdotes aren't data uponit7771 Aug 2021 #190
I wrote in another thread that I trusted President Obama's TheProle Aug 2021 #61
Yes. "They're using it as a cudgel to beat up President Obama". Budi Aug 2021 #66
Wow. Kingofalldems Aug 2021 #65
Dunning-Kruger or just anxiety running amok? Hortensis Aug 2021 #67
Bad things about Democrats. Kingofalldems Aug 2021 #68
As usual blm Aug 2021 #70
And with help from friends! Kingofalldems Aug 2021 #72
yes, it SUCKS when they behave badly Skittles Aug 2021 #180
Thanks for your concern. Nixie Aug 2021 #69
I disagree with the right and with you about president Obama's event. Politicub Aug 2021 #71
And btw, where's the link to the OP's accusations about Obama? It's not just the Republicans btw. Budi Aug 2021 #78
I wonder why they zeroed in on both Barack Obama and Kamala Harris? What do THEY have in common? George II Aug 2021 #119
No doubt! It's telling whose racial bias has emerged & allied Budi Aug 2021 #124
The data below makes me feel as though maybe President Obama should be setting an example Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #83
He has been working his butt off trying to get people to get vaccinated. Politicub Aug 2021 #127
Search engine results should not displace intellectual honesty. TheProle Aug 2021 #104
When the critique is consistantly targeting particular people/groups, then a call-out is Fair. Budi Aug 2021 #113
Indeed. Notice and call out as you wish. TheProle Aug 2021 #118
Lollapalooza? Are you kidding? Politicub Aug 2021 #130
200 people ain't a dinner party. TheProle Aug 2021 #135
K & R Thank You!. Budi Aug 2021 #122
Oh dear.... stillcool Aug 2021 #81
*snort* dixiechiken1 Aug 2021 #87
You can take the advice from Francis Collins, the NIH director President Obama appointed progressoid Aug 2021 #117
I always like snowybirdie Aug 2021 #82
K & R Thank You! See Post #78 above yours. Budi Aug 2021 #86
I think we can let Obama slide on this fescuerescue Aug 2021 #85
No rules were bypassed. jcgoldie Aug 2021 #105
Cool. Then no harm no foul fescuerescue Aug 2021 #153
Vaxxed people get to do this. This shows what vaccinations allow with proper protocols in place. chowder66 Aug 2021 #93
Vaxxed people can still spread COVID. Blue_true Aug 2021 #136
I guess you missed where I said "...with proper protocols in place" chowder66 Aug 2021 #141
Republicans could do it treestar Aug 2021 #96
Ralph Norman (R-SC) was vaccinated too. progressoid Aug 2021 #101
statistically it is uncommon treestar Aug 2021 #140
I love Obama but not a mask in sight???? Jon King Aug 2021 #97
You hit on the exact issues with holding such an event. nt Blue_true Aug 2021 #137
The servants had to wear masks. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #152
This is false there were mass and people were checks for vaccinations and test. Why are we repeating uponit7771 Aug 2021 #189
exactly. The staff wore them fescuerescue Aug 2021 #201
There were Yellowdog88 Aug 2021 #99
Hear, hear!! Good post. Missn-Hitch Aug 2021 #109
I object to the nastiness of this attack on Obama and Newsome. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #112
he lose your vote? ZonkerHarris Aug 2021 #114
I agree. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #116
I would guess Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #123
To paraphrase Jesse Jackson, Obama could walk on water and the RW would yell "Barack can't swim!" nolabear Aug 2021 #126
"Why is this completely predictable chum thrown into the water?" lapucelle Aug 2021 #131
I wrote here when I first heard about a large birthday party. Blue_true Aug 2021 #133
You bring up a good point. StarryNite Aug 2021 #160
does Martha's Vineyard have a mask mandate? Orangepeel Aug 2021 #134
Sounds most benign and the unsupported "hurts us" is simply another bumpersticker LanternWaste Aug 2021 #139
It's almost like criticism of Obama's party is the worst thing the big bad right can find..... George II Aug 2021 #142
I agree. Strange thing to do and uncharacteristically tone death. tman Aug 2021 #143
How is following the rules to tone death? uponit7771 Aug 2021 #193
Meh BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #144
"I know we don't like to call out our own" betsuni Aug 2021 #149
Lol! nt ecstatic Aug 2021 #197
Obama was not only meeting guidelines, he was exceeding them. Vinca Aug 2021 #150
Your concern is noted. Hobo Aug 2021 #156
I'm really mad Tomconroy Aug 2021 #161
Well shoot! I was hoping to see pictures!! tavernier Aug 2021 #163
60 birthdays. 2 terms. 0 Impeachments. 10/10 @BarackObama LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #167
Yes, it was a bad idea and so unnecessary. He could have made a big deal out of cancelling it. joetheman Aug 2021 #174
Following the rules is never a bad idea Obama did with his party but uponit7771 Aug 2021 #192
yes, it was STUPID Skittles Aug 2021 #176
I'm getting flak about it... I knew I would. StarryNite Aug 2021 #181
I don't either Skittles Aug 2021 #182
It's unreal with the Dijon mustard and tan suit jokes BradAllison Aug 2021 #203
Obama follows the rules and it was still stupid? uponit7771 Aug 2021 #191
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #204
This event was not a super spreader event in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #207

jcgoldie

(11,600 posts)
22. We don't "rip" Barack Obama on DU every day
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:39 PM
Aug 2021

And people drawing parallels to Trump over this ridiculous issue may be in the wrong forum.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
27. What does that have to do with anything?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:43 PM
Aug 2021

Are you denying there is a pandemic still going on? Because there's only one group that denies that. Do you need a hint as to whom?

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
202. I hope this is sarcasm
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 08:58 PM
Aug 2021

Because Fuck Manny and the Jackass Ruskies.

My only point here is posting ten stories a day expressing outrage over every party a bunch of hicks in Dipshit, Arkansas or every church service in Fuckwad, Wyoming that killed 6 people and then saying this is no big deal or "he can do whatever he wants" is a dumb look.

Some people are consistent, and others are just see no evil cheerleaders. I think that's been obvious the last two days. Whether that hits too close is up to you.

jcgoldie

(11,600 posts)
9. The right will be outraged at Obama if he reaches over the sneezeguard
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

He should do whatever the hell he wants.

Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
11. The Left will be outraged at trump if he reaches over the sneezeguard
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

He should do whatever the hell he wants.

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
23. If it wasn't for Trump
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:40 PM
Aug 2021

we wouldn't be in such a sorry state. It is the result of his lack of leadership. Defend that.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
31. Apparently.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:48 PM
Aug 2021

This was a bad look.

I subscribe to a number of European newspapers, and this is being noticed. I’m disappointed.

jcgoldie

(11,600 posts)
15. Which one is running for public office...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:32 PM
Aug 2021

...Issuing "public" memoranda from a fake office and holding political hate rallies. You're right the situation is just the same.

choie

(4,106 posts)
12. ?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

He is a leader, currently elected or not. It was a damn stupid and tone deaf decision. It oozes elitism.

brooklynite

(94,190 posts)
46. ...who can be critized (without it being "bashing") for poor policy choices.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:06 PM
Aug 2021

I was at a party with Mary Trump and 50-odd people Saturday. The key point is that everyone was vaccinated. That should have been made clear with respect to the Obama Party.

Response to brooklynite (Reply #46)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
138. Allegedly vaccinated...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:35 PM
Aug 2021


(also, I think you accidently dropped another name wholly nd completely irrelevant to any points made)

Escurumbele

(3,364 posts)
90. No but he still lectures and gives advise and he needs to make sure his conduct is impecable
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

mostly when he knows that republicans will take a sneeze incident from him and make it into something big.

Its just common sense and being ahead of the stupid game republicans play day in day out.

LisaL

(44,966 posts)
3. There are no orders right now that would prevent an individual from having a party or do whatever.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:26 PM
Aug 2021

That might be one of the reasons for why our covid cases are exploding.
But I don't think Obama broke any rules.

Escurumbele

(3,364 posts)
92. Lead by example? and not allow the repubs to make this into a big issue which they will?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:43 PM
Aug 2021

You don't give repubs an inch of your arm because the will take the whole arm and more if they have time.

Sympthsical

(9,003 posts)
17. This doesn't only bother the Right
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:33 PM
Aug 2021

And everyone knows that.

At least they should.

Why do you think those Newsom polls are looking the way they are in a heavily Democratic state?

JohnSJ

(92,023 posts)
25. lol. yup, that has to be why those pesky republicans are behaving so badly toward us, because
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:41 PM
Aug 2021

of President Obama's Birthday party


LeftInTX

(24,908 posts)
60. That isn't my issue
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:31 PM
Aug 2021

Obama is a role model...too many decent people are laissez-faire right now..

Many of them are Democrats themselves....

Irish_Dem

(46,198 posts)
8. Obama is out of F's to give about what the GOP thinks of him.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:28 PM
Aug 2021

I don't blame him. He has made serious sacrifices for his country, he deserves to do what he wants now.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
18. Interesting take
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:35 PM
Aug 2021

Who else has the right to "do whatever they want" during a pandemic?

I remind you. We are still in a pandemic. Only the GOP denies that.

Irish_Dem

(46,198 posts)
28. I myself would not throw a big party right now.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:44 PM
Aug 2021

But Obama paid his dues big time. For 8 years, he and his family walked out the front door and didn't know if they would return alive.
And they were vilified in despicable ways, every day.

I think it was a mistake to have the bash, but I give him a pass, and don't want to judge him.

He would have to wait another ten years to have a big decade birthday party and who knows the future?

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
34. Thank you.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

I’m really disappointed in his decision to continue with this. Really tone deaf.

As another poster says, it smacks of elitism.

Ms. Toad

(33,970 posts)
111. Avoiding large gatherings, mask wearing,etc., are matters of public health
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:28 PM
Aug 2021

Escaping from those restrictions is not a reward for making sacrifices. That reward framing is part of the reason we are not looking at COVID in the rear view mirror.

global1

(25,205 posts)
13. Definately - There Should Be A Commission To Investigate And He Should Be Impeached.....
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

NOT!!!

Posted as sarcasm.

maxsolomon

(33,199 posts)
19. Odds are that everyone in attendance was vaxxed.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:36 PM
Aug 2021

But I agree, it gives the RW ammunition to accuse Dems of hypocrisy. Which they do 24/7 anyway.

If they don't have something specific to point to (Cuomo, Franken), they just make it up. They accused Obama of elitism for eating Dijon mustard.

Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
35. But this isn't just about the right. It's about what's right, and the fact that regular
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

average everyday Democratic voters don't like being told they should mask up and avoid crowds and then seeing pictures of leadership in their own party ignoring the rules 'cause birthday and celebrities.

It was a bad idea. It just was - and I LOVE the Obamas with a capital LOVE.

LOVE them.


We're all sick of COVID. We know most of them were vaccinated. We know it was outdoors. It's still terrible optics and honestly, with the transmissibility of Delta (including outdoors) and number of breakthrough cases - it just wasn't a smart thing to do.





quaint

(2,541 posts)
20. It was scaled back, outdoors, and had a covid coordinator to check status.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:37 PM
Aug 2021

The party adhered to health protocols.
Even if it had only been he and Michelle, "they" would have complaints.

Response to former9thward (Reply #80)

former9thward

(31,885 posts)
199. Not for covid it is not.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

Not when you are inside a crowded tent. Covid is not spread in the outdoors because of fresh air, constant ventilation of the air and uV rays from the sun (which go thru clouds). A tent negates all of that,

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
24. The right also had a field day with his tan suit.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:40 PM
Aug 2021

Last edited Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)

How about you push back against their bullshit propaganda instead of contribute to it?

Obama's party was a private outdoors gathering; CDC guidance does not mandate that individuals who have been fully vaccinated have to mask up in such circumstances.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
29. Fully vaxxed individuals are being infected. Half a dozen threads on it here everyday.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:45 PM
Aug 2021

They were inside of tents for much of the party.

This was a bad idea.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
95. Outdoor tents.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:47 PM
Aug 2021

And everyone was either fully vaccinated and/or were tested for COVID prior to their participation in the event.

Obama and his guests went above and beyond current CDC guidelines, which currently state that fully vaccinated individuals should wear masks in public indoor spaces in areas of high transmission.

Stop doing the Republicans' bidding.

Ms. Toad

(33,970 posts)
132. COVID is not a political matter. It is a matter of public health.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:20 PM
Aug 2021

Outdoors is not inherently safe, with the Delta variant. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/pendleton-whisky-music-faster-horses-covid-outbreaks-outdoor-transmission-1208842/

The event should have been delayed for public health reasons. Not for political reasons, but because the delta variant can be transmitted outdoors among vaccinated individuals and we all need to do our part. My parents skipped their 65th annversary celebration last year. I'm skipping my 40th anniversary this year. Because it is the safe thing to do to contribute to public health. I hold Obama to the same standards.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
165. Going above and beyond prevailing CDC guidance is not political.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:40 PM
Aug 2021

You may think it was irresponsible of Obama to hold such an event, but fact of the matter is that he went above and beyond current CDC guidance in doing so.

It's fine that you are personally more risk averse than Obama apparently is -- hell, I'm basically a shut-in, so I'm probably even more risk averse than you -- but I'm not going to look down upon what you choose to do as long as you are being responsible and follow prevailing guidelines at the time.

Basically, it is not up to Obama to follow your personal standards anymore than it is up to you to follow my personal standards. As long as we are following CDC guidance, we are doing a helluva lot more than those that are not -- you know, the ones that are the real source of our current problems.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
206. In your opinion.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:37 PM
Aug 2021

If you've been out of your house any time recently, you most certainly were more likely to get infected with COVID than those at Obama's outdoor party.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
151. I am not sure we should be celebrating this kind of thing.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:33 AM
Aug 2021

It is a poor idea during a health emergency.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
98. And that GOP representative was not following the guidance applied to him.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:51 PM
Aug 2021

The House has mandated that masks be worn again based on advice from the Capitol physician, which is based on CDC guidance.

The current CDC guidance would not have mandated masked for fully vaccinated people attending Obama's private outdoor event.

Do you see the difference in the two? Or will you continue carrying water for GOP propagandists?

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
106. It wasn't outdoors.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:14 PM
Aug 2021

The tent was outdoors. 475 people in the tent. Plus 200 workers.

Francis Collins, NIH director appointed by Pres Obama on CNN Sunday said this:

“If you're talking about a small party like I might have at my house for six or eight people who are all fully vaccinated, I do not believe, at this point, we need to put masks on to be next to each other.

But if there were 100 people -- and, of course, how are you really going to be sure about people's vaccination status? And maybe there's some immunocompromised people there who, though they're vaccinated, are not actually fully protected, then the dynamic changes a little bit. There will be some need for common sense there.”

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2108/01/sotu.01.html


It's not "carrying water for GOP propagandists" to recognize that this is bad optics and that we need to practice what we preach.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
120. Yeah, in a tent -- outdoors.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:39 PM
Aug 2021

It's no different than the mobile unit tents we see people going through to get their vaccines and/or COVID tests.

I'm sorry that you seem to eager to join Republicans in attacking Obama for not only following current CDC guidance, but going above and beyond by requiring full vaccination or a negative COVID test to attend his event.

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
125. Bwahahaha.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

That's some Gordian knot rationalization.

Those mobile tents that people go through to get their vaccines and/or Covid tests? Everyone is wearing a mask!

Yes, the tent is outdoors. In the same way that a grocery store is outdoors. And a school is outdoors. It's what happens inside that structure that matters.

Regarding the CDC guidelines, after the rise in COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in late July, the CDC reversed its mask policy, recommending that fully vaccinated people should resume wearing their masks indoors.

Again, this has nothing to do with joining Republicans in attacking Obama. Ironically, I didn't know anything about it until I logged onto DU.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
205. No, it's really not.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:35 PM
Aug 2021

An outdoor tent with flaps to allow it to be open air is outdoors.

And those mobile tents also include unvaccinated people and/or people that have not tested negative for COVID; for the Obama party, everyone was fully vaccinated and/or tested beforehand to ensure they weren't infected with the virus.

As for your final point, the tent was open air and outdoors.

Sorry that you can't handle that the Obama party not only adhered to current CDC guidance, but it went above and beyond (by requiring vaccinations and/or negative testing).

George II

(67,782 posts)
155. And? President Obama followed the CDC guidelines and then some. He proved they work.....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:30 AM
Aug 2021

We should be rec'ing that.

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
162. Did he prove it?
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:27 PM
Aug 2021

The only way to prove it would be to test the over 600 guests and workers after the event. What are the chances contact tracing was included with the invitation?

And the CDC changed their guidelines in July, recommending that fully vaccinated people should resume wearing their masks indoors.

George II

(67,782 posts)
169. He held his event in full compliance with CDC guidelines and more. There were no outbreaks....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

Yes, he "proved" that they work if fully complied with, but you essentially questioned if he "proved" they work.

George II

(67,782 posts)
171. Again, he held the event in compliance with CDC guidelines and there was no outbreak...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:33 PM
Aug 2021

Take that as you will.

George II

(67,782 posts)
173. Why are you questioning everything said here? Seems like you have something against....
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:27 PM
Aug 2021

...President Obama.

If there was an outbreak why not let us all know. Thanks!

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
175. Snort.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:58 AM
Aug 2021

I don't know if there was an outbreak. Just as you don't know there wasn't an outbreak (despite your claim that there wasn't).

I don't have "something" against Obama. I have something against faulty rationalization and weak excuses.

W_HAMILTON

(7,824 posts)
121. No, it wasn't.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:41 PM
Aug 2021

And the fact that so-called Democrats are joining Republicans in their disingenuous attacks on the man is sad. You would think that SOME people would have learned their lesson after echoing the same bullshit attacks on Hillary, which directly led to this pandemic (at least in my opinion), but I guess not.

Fact is, Obama went above and beyond current CDC guidelines. Realize that every time you aid and abet Republicans by attacking him over this.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
36. Well? Were the guests vaxed & covid testwd before entering the island property?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:51 PM
Aug 2021

Your post omits the precautions taken not only by the Obamas, but by the high profile attendees.

It wasn't a RW political frat party .

Without knowing the restrictions pre-set & agreed to, your post simply repeats social media memes placing a negative spin on the Obama bday celebration.

I somehow can't see Beyonce & JayZ saying, " "meh, we'll take our chances" on the decision to attend.

IMO, as for the Staff, they were masked because it probably was a standard requirement of the Co that employed them.

Who cares what the RW says about it.
They weren't invited.


agingdem

(7,800 posts)
58. Enough!
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:28 PM
Aug 2021

anyone here remember Nancy Pelosi's haircut?...Republican ammunition...Joe tripping on a stair before boarding Air Force 1?...Republican ammunition...Kamala inviting everyone to have a nice Memorial Day weekend?...Republican ammunition...we Dems, always careful not to offend...play nice..follow the rules...it's all about optics..well, fuck optics..fuck Republican phony moral outrage...Obama's fully vaccinated birthday party upsets the right's delicate fainting couch sensibilities but Camp Auschwitz, gallows, the confederate flag, rampaging animals hunting the Speaker and the Vice President with intent to kill, defiling the sanctity of the Capital...all ok...Obama in a tan suit...big bad no no... Trump and his amoral Republican cretins with their callous disregard for human life destroyed our world ..they can take their self-righteous bullshit and shove it...they don't get to tell us how to live...fuck them, fuck them all...

Sympthsical

(9,003 posts)
45. They were crowded up in tents
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:05 PM
Aug 2021

Pictures have leaked. It's an absolutely terrible look.

We know vaccinated people can contract and spread the Delta variant. Children are still not vaccinated, and we're watching that disaster play out in real time.

The thread is going about how I expected, but I stand by it: This was horribly irresponsible.

LeftInTX

(24,908 posts)
42. I agree and I believe lots of tents were involved it was not strictly an outdoor event at all
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:00 PM
Aug 2021

It doesn't help...

FSogol

(45,419 posts)
44. Tsk, tsk! "I know we don't like to call out our own, but..."
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:04 PM
Aug 2021

Actually, a lot of us love nothing more than calling out out own. Thanks for a good example of it.



Whether chum gets thrown in the water on not, the RW will still find fault. They frick'n make stuff up to be outraged.
There is no point in worrying whether it will offend them. Don't lend them ammunition by scolding others about it.


Sympthsical

(9,003 posts)
47. If you think only the right-wing gets mad about this stuff
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:07 PM
Aug 2021

I don't know what to tell you. People do not care for it when the rich, famous, and powerful are not asked to abide by the same rules and guidelines everyone else is.

At least, people in the Democratic party I know don't like that sort of thing.

Has that changed, or are we still allowed to really dislike that sort of thing?

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
50. I dislike it.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:16 PM
Aug 2021

“Rules for thee and not for me.” That shit makes us look like hypocrites.

People on this thread all of a sudden acting like vaxxed people can’t get sick, despite the many anecdotal threads about vaxxed “neighbors, friends, family members, cousins, aunts” and so on who have gotten sick.

LisaL

(44,966 posts)
51. But there are no rules and guidelines right now that would prevent someone from having a party.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:16 PM
Aug 2021

What rules and guidelines he is not abiding by?

FSogol

(45,419 posts)
53. If you think the left is staying home and the right is out partying except for a few examples
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:18 PM
Aug 2021

you are severely mistaken. The airlines are full, vacations spots are full, ballparks are full, and restaurants/ bars are full. In a couple of weeks the NFL and college football will begin with huge crowds. Musics festivals are back.

Sorry, but many Americans of all political persuasions aren't taking the pandemic seriously.
Picking Obama, or Newsome, or DC Mayor Browser to complain about is just aiding the right.
Both examples took reasonable precautions only to be bashed by people doing much worse.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
100. Where do you get that ?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

People love the rich and famous.

And where do you get the idea there are different rules? The Obamas followed the rules everyone else has to follow. They would never do differently.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
115. Which one is that?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:33 PM
Aug 2021

"..people in the Democratic party I know.."

But you're certain of Obama's.
Oh , & the rich & powerful.


🙄

Skittles

(153,076 posts)
179. it's mind-boggling
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:16 AM
Aug 2021

it's just so fucking ridiculous, the excuses people make. We're just supposed to think it's cool because, you know, it's OBAMA....and he is......you know, A GOOD GUY

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
49. I don't give a fuck what the right wing noise machine says.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:14 PM
Aug 2021

They didn't like his tan suit either.

Fuck them.

StarryNite

(9,405 posts)
55. I'm concerned about the attendees.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:23 PM
Aug 2021

I would have felt differently a couple of months ago prior to Delta hitting the US so hard. There are numerous breakthrough cases. While the vaccines seem to be doing a remarkable job of preventing hospitalizations and death, the vaccinated can still spread it to those who are not and can not be vaccinated at this time. I probably lean towards being overly cautious though. I just hope we don't hear about people who attended testing positive in the next couple of weeks. I wouldn't even consider attending a big party like that. But then I still won't even eat in a restaurant.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
59. If they were all vaccinated I don't care
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:31 PM
Aug 2021

My family (all vaxed)had a big get together a couple weeks ago and it was fine.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
102. Have you not been reading the dozen or so threads here about vaxxed people getting sick?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:00 PM
Aug 2021

All du anecdotal tales of course, but surely they’re all true?

maxsolomon

(33,199 posts)
146. Still a very small portion of vaccinated people having breakthrough cases.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:27 AM
Aug 2021

the Provincetown cluster being the largest known breakthrough event.

it is possible to have a gathering of vaccinated people and not have that same level of infection. it happened quite frequently in July; i myself went to a MLS game in a sea of unmasked middle americans.

this new surge in cases is not being driven by breakthroughs - it's the unvaxxed.

iemanja

(53,010 posts)
157. then you're the one relying on anecdote
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:59 AM
Aug 2021

rather than evidence. There are breakthrough cases all around the country, and not small numbers. Vaccinated people don't tend to become nearly as sick as un-vaccinated ones, but they spread the disease and about 1000 have died.

maxsolomon

(33,199 posts)
158. I am not saying that anecdote is proof.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:41 PM
Aug 2021

I made 2 assertions:
1. Still a very small portion of vaccinated people having breakthrough cases.
2. this new surge in cases is not being driven by breakthroughs - it's the unvaxxed.

Are either of those untrue? you say the breakthroughs are "not small numbers". that sounds pretty subjective to me, at least as subjective as my "very small".

there are 167 million fully vaccinated people in the US. using this randomly-selected article's numbers ( https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/breakthrough-covid-cases-least-125-000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-n1275500 ). 125,000 have tested positive, 1,400 have died in this surge.

125,000/167,000,000 = 0.00075%.
1400/167,000,000 = 0.000008%.

I say those numbers are "very small"; you say they are "not small". we're going to have to disagree.

meanwhile, the average cases/day is >100,000. i would agree that that number is "not small".

TheProle

(2,137 posts)
61. I wrote in another thread that I trusted President Obama's
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:32 PM
Aug 2021

judgement in having a responsible gathering and hopefully protocol was thorough enough that no one catches a breakthrough infection or takes home a case to their kids.

Given the level of awareness, concern and compliance here at DU, I don't think that anyone is being a bad Democrat by cringing a little bit at the optics.

If they're using it as a cudgel to beat up President Obama, that's a different story.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
66. Yes. "They're using it as a cudgel to beat up President Obama".
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:41 PM
Aug 2021

The rest is optics which omit facts.
Which is why the particular photos were selected.

Did any of the photos include the precautions required to enter the bday celebration?
Nope, because its about suggestion, not fact.

What message were those who selected the partigular photos, intending?


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
67. Dunning-Kruger or just anxiety running amok?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:41 PM
Aug 2021

Amazing how many, even here, seem to assume they're wiser and smarter, more politically astute, and far more socially and morally responsible than President and Michelle Obama.

And forget that for a period we believed widespread vaccination availability meant we could travel safely and gather with other vaccinated people. Because it was true. Until more lethal variants suddenly entered the scene like rampaging bulls charging into a global china shop.

And fuck the Republicans. To take this up, they had to drop whatever other malicious and phony clubs they'd be swinging instead. Don't like the ahimals? Don't feed them.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
71. I disagree with the right and with you about president Obama's event.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:49 PM
Aug 2021

He’s a private citizen and broke no laws.

He does not deserve to be criticized on DU like is happening in the right-wing media.

His party did not hurt me. It did not hurt you.

Now, I could make the argument that posts that echo the right’s message are harmful because they contribute to search engine-results placement. But I won’t do that.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
78. And btw, where's the link to the OP's accusations about Obama? It's not just the Republicans btw.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:17 PM
Aug 2021

Here's a doctored up pic circulating Leftist accts.

This is abruptly similar in it's intended suggestion.
From the "They're ALL THE SAAAAME" bunch.




Its not a RW source either.
See, the small print, right there under the words, " Decimating Black Wealth and the Middle Class"


Their messaging apparantly merges, on cue.
Awww. They made a matching one for VP Harris.




OP at least owes the readers of the condemnation of Obama a link to his source.
The messaging isn't solely a Republican thing, apparantly.

George II

(67,782 posts)
119. I wonder why they zeroed in on both Barack Obama and Kamala Harris? What do THEY have in common?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:39 PM
Aug 2021

Rhetorical question, everyone knows why. Obama has had to put up with crap like that since becoming President and Harris since late 2019 when she announced her candidacy.

These should be sent to the attorneys of both InStyle and Vogue. I could see hefty lawsuits in the making.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
124. No doubt! It's telling whose racial bias has emerged & allied
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:57 PM
Aug 2021

These should be sent to InStyle and Vogue.

Ya think they'd be a bit pissed.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,098 posts)
83. The data below makes me feel as though maybe President Obama should be setting an example
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:27 PM
Aug 2021

or at least letting people know that IF they are vaccinated, they too can party like this. He is beloved by millions. Setting an example would be a great thing.

The CDC reports demographic characteristics, including race/ethnicity, of people receiving COVID-19 vaccinations at the national level. As of August 2, 2021, CDC reported that race/ethnicity was known for 58% of people who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Among this group, nearly two thirds were White (59%), 10% were Black, 16% were Hispanic, 6% were Asian, 1% were American Indian or Alaska Native.

emphasis inserted by me

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
127. He has been working his butt off trying to get people to get vaccinated.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:09 PM
Aug 2021

I did a quick Google search before posting, and there were many examples of media appearances and PSAs he has done. Go and see for yourself.

As for the party, he scaled it back tremendously, and made it a point to say that everyone was vaccinated. To make the accusation that he isn’t modeling good behavior belies the facts.

TheProle

(2,137 posts)
104. Search engine results should not displace intellectual honesty.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:08 PM
Aug 2021

If a DUer has been intellectually consistent in their critique of other mass gatherings, even w. vaccination requirements, then I have no problem with their honest criticism of anyone engaging in such behaviors.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
113. When the critique is consistantly targeting particular people/groups, then a call-out is Fair.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:29 PM
Aug 2021

We do Notice.

TheProle

(2,137 posts)
118. Indeed. Notice and call out as you wish.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021

I've seen the critique leveled at Lollapalooza (vaccination required) and other gatherings that require proof of vaccination.

I guess my point is that honest discussion should not be stifled because it exposes our bellies in some way to the Republicans.

I don't personally think President Obama did anything wrong. But I'm not willing to engage in a party purge over it in the middle of a pandemic.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
130. Lollapalooza? Are you kidding?
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:18 PM
Aug 2021

There is no equivalence between a private gathering versus a major concert.

We should be on the side of President Obama instead of part of the critic chorus. There are enough people criticizing his every move already.

I don’t even understand what you mean by a party purge.

TheProle

(2,137 posts)
135. 200 people ain't a dinner party.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:23 PM
Aug 2021

The "purge" comment was about the subtext being directed at some posters implying that they are not real Democrats or are trying to damage the party with their criticism.

And I already have made clear at least 3 times that I don't think President Obama did anything wrong.

That said, breakthrough infections are real, if rare, and the jury is still out on if they can develop into long-haul.

"We should be on the side of (insert Democrat here)" is the mentality that has so many members of this community shrugging off the apparently very real lechery of New York's government.

Support should be principled, not reflexive.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
122. K & R Thank You!.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:52 PM
Aug 2021
"..posts that echo the right’s message are harmful because they contribute to search engine-results placement."

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
81. Oh dear....
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:27 PM
Aug 2021

My husbands birthday is next week. We're fully vaccinated, as are those we have invited. Do I have to ask you for permission to have my friends over for a barbecue? I'm not running for anything, but I don't want to see you get hurt.

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
117. You can take the advice from Francis Collins, the NIH director President Obama appointed
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021
“If you're talking about a small party like I might have at my house for six or eight people who are all fully vaccinated, I do not believe, at this point, we need to put masks on to be next to each other.

But if there were 100 people -- and, of course, how are you really going to be sure about people's vaccination status? And maybe there's some immunocompromised people there who, though they're vaccinated, are not actually fully protected, then the dynamic changes a little bit. There will be some need for common sense there.”



http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2108/01/sotu.01.html

snowybirdie

(5,210 posts)
82. I always like
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:27 PM
Aug 2021

To see relatively new members (2/20) have such strong opinions on what our former Democratic President is doing in his private life. Funny, it coincides with the opinions of right wing Republicans. Good for you. You've made your mark!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
86. K & R Thank You! See Post #78 above yours.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:35 PM
Aug 2021

They don't have to disguise it by cleverly blaming each other.

I'm not sure exactly what they're Left of anymore.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
85. I think we can let Obama slide on this
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:33 PM
Aug 2021

Given everything that he has done for the country.

I'm ok with him bypassing a few rules.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
153. Cool. Then no harm no foul
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:53 AM
Aug 2021

Why is anyone getting upset then?

If masks aren't required, then he's fine.

chowder66

(9,035 posts)
93. Vaxxed people get to do this. This shows what vaccinations allow with proper protocols in place.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:44 PM
Aug 2021

Anyone who is not comfortable attending can decline and most would understand in vaccinated groups such as these.

People have been sitting outside of restaurants eating in tents so I don't see an issue with this either... that is, when everyone is vaxxed and the people are in their circle of family and friends.

Now if they are not following protocols outside of this (by not wearing a mask) then that's inconsiderate and people can take issue if the context is known.


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
136. Vaxxed people can still spread COVID.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:29 PM
Aug 2021

Even if they were tested before the party, who is to say that a person there was infected but the infection not showing up yet?

The 200 person party was a freaking horrible idea, even if scaled down from the original.

chowder66

(9,035 posts)
141. I guess you missed where I said "...with proper protocols in place"
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:53 PM
Aug 2021

and

"Now if they are not following protocols outside of this (by not wearing a mask) then that's inconsiderate and people can take issue if the context is known."

Breakthrough cases are still considered rare and the CDC's advice is to mask indoors where low vaccination rates are. I personally think people should continue to mask regardless but I don't take issue with a private gathering with family and friends who are vaccinated and follow all of the protocols that were provided by a specialist at Obama's party.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
96. Republicans could do it
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:50 PM
Aug 2021

There'd be no problem with Dubya having a birthday party.

People were vaccinated. And when it was planned may have been before this new variant started.

Obama is a private citizen now.

progressoid

(49,891 posts)
101. Ralph Norman (R-SC) was vaccinated too.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:58 PM
Aug 2021

Being vaccinated doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
140. statistically it is uncommon
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:41 PM
Aug 2021

there is a lot of hair on fire out there. The vaccines are not useless. Full shut down has not been implemented.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
97. I love Obama but not a mask in sight????
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:51 PM
Aug 2021

Seriously, not sure why they could not have postponed it for a more appropriate time. The issue is not vaccinations....its masks, not a mask in sight.

The entire message is that everyone needs masks because even vaccinated people can still get infected and spread the virus. These people came in from all over the US, including at risk counties. So the fact it was held in a low case area is not relevant.

And the timing was brutally bad, just when schools are going back and we are trying to explain why vaccinations AND masks are important.

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
189. This is false there were mass and people were checks for vaccinations and test. Why are we repeating
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 03:49 AM
Aug 2021

... right-wing bullshit here on DU??

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
201. exactly. The staff wore them
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

Good chance they wore them.

The dignitaries were vaccinated for sure. They were required to. Besides, we need to see their faces.

Yellowdog88

(66 posts)
99. There were
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:53 PM
Aug 2021

There were 15 Major League Baseball games yesterday with fully open stadiums and no mandatory mask policies.

An outdoor event for few hundred people on Martha's Vineyard does not even scratch the surface.

They bellyache like they always do. They just hate the guy. Stop granting them an opinion on this topic unless they can get their people to vaccinate and use masks where appropriate. Til then, they can stfu.

nolabear

(41,920 posts)
126. To paraphrase Jesse Jackson, Obama could walk on water and the RW would yell "Barack can't swim!"
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:02 PM
Aug 2021

If we didn't respond their stupid fits would run out of oxygen. I'm so tired of giving them the other team to endlessly fight.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
133. I wrote here when I first heard about a large birthday party.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:21 PM
Aug 2021

Horrible idea, absolutely horrible idea. It is just tone deaf to have a large social gathering right now. I am glad that President Biden skipped the party.

StarryNite

(9,405 posts)
160. You bring up a good point.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

I wonder how many people here who think there was nothing wrong with the birthday party would have wanted President Biden to attend? I realize that now that it's over it would be easy for them to say they would have been good with it. I'm so glad he skipped it too.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
139. Sounds most benign and the unsupported "hurts us" is simply another bumpersticker
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 06:37 PM
Aug 2021

"Sigh. This was totally foreseeable."

Absolutely. But I'm certain we're pointing our little finger's at two different things.

George II

(67,782 posts)
142. It's almost like criticism of Obama's party is the worst thing the big bad right can find.....
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:26 PM
Aug 2021

....for which to criticize him or Democrats.

Vinca

(50,228 posts)
150. Obama was not only meeting guidelines, he was exceeding them.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 07:41 AM
Aug 2021

Guests were vaccinated people tested beforehand. In this instance, the right can collectively fuck itself. They don't make noise when thousands of unvaccinated dimwits gather to worship the cult leader after all.

tavernier

(12,354 posts)
163. Well shoot! I was hoping to see pictures!!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 05:42 PM
Aug 2021

Beautiful, brilliant, loving people all vaccinated and all gathered together to celebrate the birthday of Obama. I bet it was a lovely party!

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
174. Yes, it was a bad idea and so unnecessary. He could have made a big deal out of cancelling it.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:00 AM
Aug 2021

That would have been more helpful in these times. i really thought he and Michelle would have known better.

uponit7771

(90,296 posts)
192. Following the rules is never a bad idea Obama did with his party but
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 03:52 AM
Aug 2021

.... DU is still concerned about pleasing the right and not giving them ammunition that they just won't make up out of thin air

Fuck them

StarryNite

(9,405 posts)
181. I'm getting flak about it... I knew I would.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:28 AM
Aug 2021

I don't defend it. I don't believe in double standards.

Skittles

(153,076 posts)
182. I don't either
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 02:46 AM
Aug 2021

I've gone my entire life without a birthday party and cannot understand the need to hold one with hundreds of people during a pandemic....inexcusable.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
203. It's unreal with the Dijon mustard and tan suit jokes
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
Aug 2021

I thought the pandemic was a serious issue, but I guess it's not really. Dumb me.

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