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fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:05 AM Aug 2021

Maybe worth considering impeachment of Trump over Afghantistan withdrawal

Biden has a done a great job given the constraints he has. Unfortunately had no power to stop the withdrawal.

Perhaps the house should consider impeaching Trump for starting this terrible process back in 2020.

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Maybe worth considering impeachment of Trump over Afghantistan withdrawal (Original Post) fescuerescue Aug 2021 OP
I think you are missing something here mcar Aug 2021 #1
Well don't hold back fescuerescue Aug 2021 #7
Might as well because god forbid we lose the house next year, the republicans will jimfields33 Aug 2021 #2
Exactly. This is a very real danger fescuerescue Aug 2021 #4
Oh yeah. jimfields33 Aug 2021 #6
You haven't given this much thought, have you? SharonClark Aug 2021 #3
It would lock him out of running again. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #5
No, it wouldn't mcar Aug 2021 #9
It takes 3 votes to perma ban him, the middle one is never happening in this Senate Celerity Aug 2021 #15
I think Biden had the power to stop the withdrawal, send in a rear guard, delay or whatever. Hoyt Aug 2021 #8
Yep, he did SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2021 #11
are you serious? bluedevil4 Aug 2021 #10
In fact, he could have blamed it on trump by announcing that trump had drawn down troops to Hoyt Aug 2021 #12
Withdrawing was and is the right thing to do! David__77 Aug 2021 #13
I'll play sarisataka Aug 2021 #14
The lawyers can certainly craft that fescuerescue Aug 2021 #16

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
7. Well don't hold back
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:12 AM
Aug 2021

Obviously he's not president anymore. But he could run again

And being in office is NOT a deterrent to being impeach. This would be for his actions in office.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
4. Exactly. This is a very real danger
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:08 AM
Aug 2021

But only if we lose the house.

They will impeach purely on vindictiveness.

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
6. Oh yeah.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:10 AM
Aug 2021

That Marjorie creature already submitted impeachment articles on president Biden on January 21, 2020. Thank goodness speaker pelosi shit canned them.

Celerity

(43,317 posts)
15. It takes 3 votes to perma ban him, the middle one is never happening in this Senate
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

1. House impeaches. Simply Majority. All it takes is 3 defections atm, and even that fails.

2. Senate tries him again and has to have 2/3rds of the members present vote to convict. Not happening with this Congress.

3. IF and only IF he is somehow convicted by the Senate, then the 3rd and final vote is veld for disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.

The Constitution doesn’t prescribe a two-thirds majority vote for that, and in the past, the Senate has used a simple majority for disqualification. (The Senate has only ever disqualified three people from holding future office, and all three of them were federal judges.)

IF he was banned by a simple majority vote that did not reach the 2/3rds threshold, it would instantly be appealled to the SCOTUS. Coin toss time at that point as to what they would do. My personal guess is they would uphold the ban, due to precedent.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
11. Yep, he did
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 11:50 AM
Aug 2021

He stopped any number of other Trump clusterfucks, no reason he couldn't have stopped this one as well.

I don't know if he got bad info from defense and intel, or if he got good info and chose not to follow it...and we'll probably never know. But whatever led to the decision, and however well-intentioned it was (and I have zero doubt of his good intentions), the outcome is awful.

 

bluedevil4

(305 posts)
10. are you serious?
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

Biden didn't have to withdraw the way he did. He could have stopped it at anytime and no one would have thought differently of him or his administration.

He stopped lots of trumps projects already in progress with support from all of us. This was no different.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. In fact, he could have blamed it on trump by announcing that trump had drawn down troops to
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 11:57 AM
Aug 2021

a level that could not guarantee safety of Americans or "friendly" Afghans.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
13. Withdrawing was and is the right thing to do!
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 11:59 AM
Aug 2021

And of course Biden could have arranged for direct US military intervention to continue. I’m so glad that he chose not to do this and stands firmly by that course of action.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
16. The lawyers can certainly craft that
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 02:58 PM
Aug 2021

But basically dereliction of duty.

Plus there's probably a hundred of other items that haven't been charged yet.

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