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Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:28 AM

Cyber Ninja Fraudit report

Well I see the Cyber Ninja fraudit report is coming out this Monday. The Ninjas are fighting to keep everything they did a secret and how they did it. It is going to the state supreme court.

What should we have expected? Our DOJ allowed this to happen because it only wrote a stern letter to the Ninjas, and stern letters and subpoenas don't count with the GQP.

Laugh at this report at your peril, for one thing it will occupy news space, for another it will invigorate the cult.

I just don't get it DOJ. Title 52 - Voting and Elections - Subtitle I and II is where federal election laws were violated. Ballots, voting systems, and other election materials were no longer in the custody of election officials.

Kristen Clarke is a wonderful choice to head the civil rights division of DOJ, I expected her to act. Maybe I missed something?

People who dismiss this as a sham are missing my point, why did DOJ allow this sham to happen?

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:52 AM

1. They can't prove fraud . . .

if they try I'm pretty sure it will be debunked and the people conducted the sham audit will have to answer to it in court.

Nevertheless, RWer's goal again is to soil doubt and mistrust. They always will be penned as liars and anti-Democracy.

And the rate GOP's politicians are going with COVID - they sure are cutting their cult membership bigly.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:57 AM

2. Not the point of my post.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:16 AM

8. "Ballots, voting systems, and other election materials were no longer in the custody"

That fact is not in dispute, and is a violation in and of itself.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:25 AM

3. Someone will be along, soon, to tell you,

the DOJ is working hard in the background on things you have no clue about, so shut up. I'm not saying that. I totally agree with you—where the fuck is the DOJ on this?

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:17 AM

9. Garland (from any visible appearance) is a major disappointment so far.

Time to bring in somebody more aggressive.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:22 AM

10. We have some bulldogs in our party but we keep them on a short leash.

And Franken? We kicked that dog to the curb.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:34 AM

11. Mustn't wet any powder or ruffle any feathers.

Can't be too aggressive in defending democracy; after all, decorum and collegiality and the Filibuster are more important.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:26 AM

4. No one can demoralize the democratic base better than democrats. -nt

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:33 AM

5. The DOJ going after this idiocy would ...

… only give it more airtime and still invigorate the mob “ ‘cuz the deep state” or something.

We should not ignore it politically, and we should attack the bullshit voting rights legislation passed under its banner. But prosecuting these keystone ninjas would be likely backfire and be unwise.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:39 AM

12. Mustn't punish the perps; it'll only upset people.

Same line of reasoning that allowed the progression of escalating crimes from Watergate to Iran Contra to the Iraq/Afghanistan wars to baby jails to open insurrection.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:44 AM

13. THey haven't done anything illegal

They have not violated any Federal Statute.

For christ's sake, two Florida newspapers recounted the 2000 election under a different standard, got different numbers and nobody gave a sh!t or claimed they committed a federal crime by doing so.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:45 AM

14. You forgot the sarcasm emoji.

Handing over the ballots to a private entity is a violation of Federal law. But you knew that already.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:48 AM

15. No its not

No federal complaint has been made by anybody in Maricopa County or The State of Arizona.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:50 AM

16. What crime, exactly, would you have these ...

… cyber ninjas prosecuted for? What should the DOJ go after them for? They are sanctioned by the AZ Republican legislature to conduct an audit. The fact that they have done it incompetently and with a clear bias doesn’t amount to a crime.

It’s stupid. We all know they’re full of shit. We all know it’s really a grift to keep $ rolling in from the base. And we all know it’s true purpose is to claim a bogus foundation for oppressive voter suppression laws in AZ and elsewhere. But it’s not a crime to my knowledge. The DOJ shouldn’t get involved in politically charged prosecutions unless they have a high probability of getting a conviction. I just don’t see that here.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:55 AM

6. Let me know when they go to jail

For election tampering.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:06 AM

7. The Maricopa County Supervisors already told them to be prepared to

defend their findings in court, so this could get interesting.

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