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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:33 AM Aug 2021

Who the fuck is this retired colonel on Rachel talking about how we MUST...

go after Isis, and how tough it's gonna be?

Ferchrissakes, after 20 years of going after... somebody, who the fuck is Isis that we have to keep the war going?

Truth is, when we are gone, good chance Talilban will kill them off and we can just mind our own business again.

Military doctrine is that we need at least one war every generation to keep the troops in shape. They get lazy just waiting. Scary thought, isn't it...

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Who the fuck is this retired colonel on Rachel talking about how we MUST... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 OP
He didn't get the memo dalton99a Aug 2021 #1
what is this isis K i've been hearing about? seriously-- is that a new & improved isis? orleans Aug 2021 #2
Kabul maxsolomon Aug 2021 #5
lol. thanks--i guess the answer was in front of me all along--never thought of it. nt orleans Aug 2021 #6
It's ISIS-Khorasan, which refers to the region it operates in, in Afghanistan & Pakistan. tblue37 Aug 2021 #19
thank you nt orleans Aug 2021 #30
I was wrong maxsolomon Aug 2021 #26
Here Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #8
thanks. and what a bunch of monsters. (monsters with mommy issues) nt orleans Aug 2021 #15
That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell. BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #16
It's sorta like Disaffected Aug 2021 #10
Khorasan (or variants) was the name for the region around there from the 7th century muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #18
Khorasan. Treefrog Aug 2021 #28
There realy isn't a military answer for terrorism... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #3
Apparently there is. Calista241 Aug 2021 #25
In Afghanistan, it hasn't. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #27
Going after them doesn't have to mean keep the war going. We can do things in the way they got Bin JI7 Aug 2021 #4
Excellent point! arthritisR_US Aug 2021 #14
And that's exactly what Biden said - we don't need a military presence to do that. Native Aug 2021 #21
My Tinfoil Hat Must Be On Too Tight..... global1 Aug 2021 #7
My tinfoil as well dflprincess Aug 2021 #11
Suicide bombers are nothing new. There's no conspiracy. Native Aug 2021 #22
kinda thought the same thing. nt orleans Aug 2021 #17
They've been around since about 2014 underpants Aug 2021 #20
Drone them to hell Cha Aug 2021 #9
That's the most likely outcome. BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #12
I read that suggestion earlier Cha Aug 2021 #13
Yes, I think this action was on the table always after we left... Deuce Aug 2021 #24
Think about it snowybirdie Aug 2021 #23
I thought about it. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #29
ISIS-K was constituted Sogo Aug 2021 #31
no, they were around long before that, and are the enemies of the Taliban Celerity Aug 2021 #32

orleans

(34,051 posts)
2. what is this isis K i've been hearing about? seriously-- is that a new & improved isis?
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:37 AM
Aug 2021

anyone know what that K is about?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
18. Khorasan (or variants) was the name for the region around there from the 7th century
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 04:57 AM
Aug 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Khorasan

So, in keeping with their desire to return to the days of Mohammed, that's what they called their operations there.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
25. Apparently there is.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:46 AM
Aug 2021

We haven't had a significant attack in the last 20 years, and both parties have told us that fighting over there prevents fighting over here.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
4. Going after them doesn't have to mean keep the war going. We can do things in the way they got Bin
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:39 AM
Aug 2021

Laden.Which is how it should have been from the beginning .

global1

(25,242 posts)
7. My Tinfoil Hat Must Be On Too Tight.....
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:47 AM
Aug 2021

Now that we are ending our role in the Afghan War - the MIC needs a new war and is it just me or has this ISIS-K popped up just at the right time for the MIC.

Almost like this is being choreographed.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
11. My tinfoil as well
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:00 AM
Aug 2021

When I heard about the bombing today I wondered if defense contractors had anything to do with it.

Native

(5,942 posts)
22. Suicide bombers are nothing new. There's no conspiracy.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:05 AM
Aug 2021

If you get a chance, listen to Biden's speech from yesterday, late afternoon.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
20. They've been around since about 2014
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:16 AM
Aug 2021

They are the last and most seasoned and hard core of ISIS. They’ve always been on their own though. There are maybe 2,000 of them in Afghanistan. From what I heard yesterday everyone from Iran to UAE to Saudi’s are weary of them.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
12. That's the most likely outcome.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:12 AM
Aug 2021

The zombie neocons hoping for another sortie over the money trough are going to be disappointed. We’re not going to send 250,000 troops somewhere to do it.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
23. Think about it
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:15 AM
Aug 2021

If your job and livelihood depended on waging wars, wouldn't you want them to continue? That's all the generals know what to do. And the enlisted personnel do the dying.

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
32. no, they were around long before that, and are the enemies of the Taliban
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 02:00 PM
Aug 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215786377

What is the Islamic State affiliate?

The Islamic State Khorasan formed in late 2014 and operates as an ISIS affiliate in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Khorasan is a historical term for a region that includes present-day Afghanistan and parts of the Middle East and Central Asia. The group is also known as ISIS-K or IS-K. The founding members included militants who left both the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban. "ISIS had sent representatives to both Pakistan and Afghanistan. They were essentially able to co-opt some disaffected Pakistani Taliban and a few Afghan Taliban [members] to join their cause," Seth Jones, an Afghanistan specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said on NPR's All Things Considered. In a 2015 video, the group's leader at the time, Hafiz Saeed Khan, and other top commanders pledged their allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, then the Islamic State's leader, and declared themselves administrators of a new ISIS territory in Afghanistan. The regional affiliate governed with a strict interpretation of Islamic law and used violent enforcement tactics, such as carrying out public executions, killing tribal elders and closing schools, according to the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University. Khan was killed in 2016 during a U.S. drone attack. Baghdadi died in 2019 after he set off an explosive vest during a raid by U.S. forces.
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