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central scrutinizer

(11,591 posts)
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:22 PM Sep 2021

Best analogy on vaccinations I've seen yet

http://eugeneweekly.com/2021/09/09/what-if-this-were-world-war-ii/

Excerpt:

To vaxx or not to vaxx? There is no question.

My grandmother used to share stories of blackout drills in the 1940s. Households up and down the West Coast would voluntarily extinguish their lights, cover their windows, and even turn off appliances by 11 pm. These proactive measures helped ensure entire cities would not be visible in the event of an enemy air attack.

Imagine the blowback if a neighbor had ranted about their “rights,” and kept their lights on well into the night. Such an action would put not only their household, but the entire community at risk.

End excerpt.

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Best analogy on vaccinations I've seen yet (Original Post) central scrutinizer Sep 2021 OP
It wasn't voluntary. It was enforced. marybourg Sep 2021 #1
Yes but you did not have large groups of defiant folks, tearing down the black out curtains. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #3
No, we did not. There were saboteurs marybourg Sep 2021 #4
I think they kept a lot secret during the war. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #5
Of course they did. It was all-out war. marybourg Sep 2021 #6
We would have lost WWII if today's GOP and Magats were in charge. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #2
They would have allied with the fascists. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #14
Oh god, you are right. The US would have fought with Hitler. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #16
It wasn't really about air attacks, we were out of range of any contemporary aircraft... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #8
Substitute London for the US west coast. central scrutinizer Sep 2021 #10
Southern England was within range of German bombers... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #11
Exactly, we're all in range of Covid central scrutinizer Sep 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #9
If a face mask can help keep your CHILD safe and some MAGATS NoMoreRepugs Sep 2021 #13
That is a good analogy. Disaffected Sep 2021 #15
East coast as well. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #17
The Drumpfs were pro-Germany back then IronLionZion Sep 2021 #18
I was thinking of WWII in London as well but either situation shows that most in the country try to Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #19

Irish_Dem

(44,393 posts)
3. Yes but you did not have large groups of defiant folks, tearing down the black out curtains.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:34 PM
Sep 2021

And bulling and harassing people who did put up the black out curtains.

marybourg

(12,493 posts)
4. No, we did not. There were saboteurs
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:39 PM
Sep 2021

(my mother’s cousin was killed by the sabotaging of a gas hot water heater on an Army base), but disobeying blackout rules was not widespread.

Irish_Dem

(44,393 posts)
5. I think they kept a lot secret during the war.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:42 PM
Sep 2021

The internal saboteurs.

And the German ships and subs off of both coasts.

Wounded Bear

(58,243 posts)
7. It wasn't really about air attacks, we were out of range of any contemporary aircraft...
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 04:54 PM
Sep 2021

It was about shipping. Submarines could spot ships at night as they sailed up the coast and were silhouetted by the lights on shore.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Wounded Bear

(58,243 posts)
11. Southern England was within range of German bombers...
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 05:17 PM
Sep 2021

different situation. Still, mandatory blackouts were a real thing.

Response to central scrutinizer (Original post)

NoMoreRepugs

(9,149 posts)
13. If a face mask can help keep your CHILD safe and some MAGATS
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 06:07 PM
Sep 2021

won’t let their kids wear one I think the difference in the Greatest Generation and today could not be more stark than it is.

IronLionZion

(45,038 posts)
18. The Drumpfs were pro-Germany back then
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 06:47 PM
Sep 2021

so they probably would have encouraged people to not be sheep and resist the blackouts in favor of whiteouts or some other such nonsense. Bright Lights Matter!

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
19. I was thinking of WWII in London as well but either situation shows that most in the country try to
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 06:54 PM
Sep 2021

do their part to help and consider the inconvenience minimal because to help your country and your neighbor is patriotic.

At least it was.

JFK started the Peace Corps and also wanted to create Vista, a dream which LBJ fulfilled. I’ve often wondered if another such program was created today would people flock to join?

In the era of optics, social media, selfie’s, and reality TV I think not. Not after TFG who made selfishness ok. Greed really is good.

Not everything from the good old days was good and our fond memories tend to forget the bad things but I feel we have permanently lost a part of our souls as a country and I don’t know how we can get it back.

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