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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:49 PM Jan 2012

DOJ: Obama Recess Appointments Constitutional

DOJ: Obama Recess Appointments Constitutional

The U.S. Department of Justice has released a legal opinion saying that President Obama’s recess appointments to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the NLRB are constitutional. Read the opinion here.

The conclusion reads:

In our judgment, the text of the Constitution and precedent and practice thereunder support the conclusion that the convening of periodic pro forma sessions in which no business is to be conducted does not have the legal effect of interrupting an intrasession recess otherwise long enough to qualify as a “Recess of the Senate” under the Recess Appointments Clause. In this context, the President therefore has discretion to conclude that the Senate is unavailable to perform its advise-and-consent function and to exercise his power to make recess appointments.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/3997



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DOJ: Obama Recess Appointments Constitutional (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Ouch. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #1
Repubs were claiming he wouldn't make any appointments Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #2
Interesting call and a common sense one. pinto Jan 2012 #3
I'd go further. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #4
Good point. While the definition of "timely advise and consent" would be contentious, I'd pinto Jan 2012 #5
But.. Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #6
Yes, the Constitution says that jberryhill Jan 2012 #7
I'm a giant idiot Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #9
The GOPers will be howling about this one! DCBob Jan 2012 #8
They are not in good position to make this a big issue. First, wiggs Jan 2012 #10
they want to get rid of the cfpb so my guess is they will make a hugh mess leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #11

pinto

(106,886 posts)
3. Interesting call and a common sense one.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jan 2012

"...the Senate is unavailable to perform its advise-and-consent function..."

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
4. I'd go further.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jan 2012

If nominees don't come up for a hearing and/or a vote within an appropriate period of time, I'd say the Senate is abdicating its advice and consent role and a recess appointment is then available to the President.

But that's me.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
5. Good point. While the definition of "timely advise and consent" would be contentious, I'd
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jan 2012

support seeing that hashed out.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Yes, the Constitution says that
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jan 2012

The question here was whether or not the Senate was, or was not, in "recess".

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
9. I'm a giant idiot
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jan 2012

My brain saw it as unconstitutional, rather than constitutional. I guess I'm always ready for conflict lol

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
10. They are not in good position to make this a big issue. First,
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jan 2012

Obama has made far, far fewer recess appointments than previous presidents. Second, being the party to defend the slimy abuse of senate tradition (having two or three guys bang the gavel and pretend senate is in session) is not a good position...the public will recognize it for the shenanigans it is. Third, the more they bring up these particular appointments, the more likely it is that their overall record of obstructionism and refusing to grant harmless appointments will become part of the discussion.

Obama has done what he has to both functionally and politically, here. Recess appointments made now will come up again for discussion only after the 2012 elections, after which we may have a different congressional makeup.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
11. they want to get rid of the cfpb so my guess is they will make a hugh mess
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jun 2014

out of this . they havent cared about consequences yet

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