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Botany

(70,635 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:28 AM Sep 2021

Never forget TFG fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper on 11/8/20 and replaced him with Christopher ...

... Miller who gave a stand down orders to the D.C. National Guard on 1/4/21. Before those orders were given
the D.C. National Guard had the authority to operate so as to respond to threats and protect the Citizens
of D.C., Government Buildings, and Federal Government operations. I believe they were to protect the D.C. local
government too.


WASHINGTON — President Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Monday, upending the military’s leadership at a time when Mr. Trump’s refusal to concede the election has created a rocky and potentially precarious transition.

Mr. Trump announced the decision on Twitter, writing in an abrupt post that Mr. Esper had been “terminated.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/politics/esper-defense-secretary.html



Now I agree with Gen. Milley, Speaker Pelosi, and CIA Director Gina Haspel that Trump was and still is bat shit crazy but he damn well knew what he was doing in trying to overthrow the United States Government by sending a mob of his violent goons to storm the U.S. Capitol to stop the certification of Joe Biden as President. It was a coup. End of story. And some members of Congress, Fox News, right wing militia groups, active and retired members of the military, police and firefighters, and shits like Roger Stone, Eric Prince, and others were in on this treason from day one. And this operation had been in the works from the time Trump lost the election.


Lock 'em up. It has been 9 months.

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Never forget TFG fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper on 11/8/20 and replaced him with Christopher ... (Original Post) Botany Sep 2021 OP
Never forget the Republican traitors who betrayed America Champp Sep 2021 #1
He signs like a fourth grader. marble falls Sep 2021 #2
Huge stupid sig just like his master. Boomerproud Sep 2021 #4
Seems they all have weird signatures.... paleotn Sep 2021 #12
Mnuchin. Ms Mnuchin. What tools. But you're right. Odd signatures, every single one of them. marble falls Sep 2021 #15
Kick. MontanaMama Sep 2021 #3
Anyone in authority who went along is guilty of treason. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #5
Liz Cheney Snapped at Jim Jordan During Jan. 6 Riot for Promoting Election Lie: You Fucking Did This Botany Sep 2021 #6
Fox is a Lie Factory Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #7
Roger Ailes started Fox with Rupert Murdoch's help for the purpose of lying to help republicans ... Botany Sep 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #18
Yes, a person can be crazy and still PatSeg Sep 2021 #9
And the most important motive is very simple: Justice matters. Sep 2021 #13
That's true PatSeg Sep 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #20
this shit is the definition of criminally insane, and failure does not exonerate bringthePaine Sep 2021 #10
Too many fascist agents in government, the judiciary and the media Mr. Ected Sep 2021 #11
The puppeteer was also the puppet. bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #14
Russia has been using right wing media and network platforms for years to sew disinformation Botany Sep 2021 #17
We all saw it happen in real time IronLionZion Sep 2021 #16
We musn't dwell on the past. We need to focus on the future and try to heal our divisions. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #21
But really what about Hillary and her email server? Botany Sep 2021 #22
good to see that at the end Grasswire2 Sep 2021 #23
I considered leaving it off, but decided against it. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #24

paleotn

(18,003 posts)
12. Seems they all have weird signatures....
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:16 AM
Sep 2021

Steve Mnuchin changed his to the weird print we see on our currency from the period. Maybe he didn't want to feel left out by having a normal signature.

Kid Berwyn

(15,043 posts)
5. Anyone in authority who went along is guilty of treason.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:59 AM
Sep 2021

They swore allegiance to the Constitution, not Putin’s puppet.

Treason cannot be forgiven. Lock ‘em up: all who were involved in the conspiracy.

Botany

(70,635 posts)
6. Liz Cheney Snapped at Jim Jordan During Jan. 6 Riot for Promoting Election Lie: You Fucking Did This
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:14 AM
Sep 2021

Liz Cheney Snapped at Jim Jordan During Jan. 6 Riot for Promoting Election Lie: 'You Fucking Did This'

And i will never forget the morning blond on Fox and Friends on 1/5/21 said, "Well a lot of people still
have questions about the elections. BTW Fox News is on ch 55 and CNN is on ch 51 and MSNBC is on
ch 53 and the weather ch is 62 so when I surf up or down I see a few seconds of Fox and it is a cancer.
This AM it was Joe Biden's inflation and that he is responsible for Haitian refugees on the Texas/Mexico
border.

Kid Berwyn

(15,043 posts)
7. Fox is a Lie Factory
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:23 AM
Sep 2021

An assembly line that runs 24/7/366 producing Big Lies, especially.

Once the lie gets in a viewer’s head, it takes a hundred times its weight in truth to be driven out of a healthy head.

Fox’s regular viewers may be beyond help. They are brain damaged.

Botany

(70,635 posts)
8. Roger Ailes started Fox with Rupert Murdoch's help for the purpose of lying to help republicans ...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:44 AM
Sep 2021

... because he thought Richard Nixon got screwed by Dan Rather, CBS, The Washington Post, and so
on and he was driven from power unfairly because he didn't have a media outlet that put out "his side
of the story." You see it wasn't the tapes, the testimony, all the evidence, and our Constitutionally
protected series of checks and balances that made Nixon quit it was that damn Dan Rather.

And it has gotten worse over the years since Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine just look @ the
meth head high school drop outs who stormed the Capitol some of those dumb fucks really believed
that Trump had the Presidency stolen from him. And or they were just violent racist red necks looking
for a fight.

Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #7)

PatSeg

(47,731 posts)
9. Yes, a person can be crazy and still
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:48 AM
Sep 2021

know what they are doing. Trump will do anything to preserve his power and control.

Justice matters.

(6,955 posts)
13. And the most important motive is very simple:
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021
POTUS can't be prosecuted for crimes he knows he's guilty of "while in Office" (that's not in the Constitution but today's polarization makes it impossible).

The malignant orange terrorist sure knew that...

PatSeg

(47,731 posts)
19. That's true
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:48 PM
Sep 2021

He may be dumb and crazy, but he is pretty smart and sane when it comes to self-preservation.

Response to Justice matters. (Reply #13)

Mr. Ected

(9,675 posts)
11. Too many fascist agents in government, the judiciary and the media
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:03 AM
Sep 2021

To ever exact justice from this band of criminals.

It doesn't take a majority to thwart democracy. Just a few well-positioned traitors. Trump spent 4 years positioning his chessmen.

bucolic_frolic

(43,465 posts)
14. The puppeteer was also the puppet.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:29 AM
Sep 2021

"4 years positioning his chessmen." Correct. The jumble of moves, helter skelter apparently to the uninformed, were to cover the key moves of gatekeepers in the final act.

I still ascribe to the theory floated online that TFG is too dumb to know exactly what he was doing other than stay in power. The puppeteer was also the puppet.

This smells of a concerted foreign effort to divvy up the country, with collusionists on board to orchestrate the moves. IMHO anyway.

Botany

(70,635 posts)
17. Russia has been using right wing media and network platforms for years to sew disinformation
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:12 PM
Sep 2021

.... and social and cultural division in America. I have no doubt that those 3%/proud boys/oath keepers/
MAGA idiots and so on had their meth heads filled with Russian produced crap such as "Trump had the election
stolen from him so you have to be a patriot and so you will have fight for your free-DUMBS."

IronLionZion

(45,621 posts)
16. We all saw it happen in real time
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

he fired heads of several law enforcement and defense agencies after the election. It looked hella suspicious at the time. Even more so after they did nothing to help on Jan 6.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
23. good to see that at the end
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 06:54 PM
Sep 2021

Because I was about to hammer you.

"Look forward, not back" is a weak and failed strategy that has allowed GOP to get away with hideous crimes for several decades now.

Bring the anvil of justice out. And the hammer. And let the people see, and know that no man is above the law.

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