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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:56 PM Sep 2021

Does America Hate the "Poorly Educated"?

It was impossible to mistake the tone of Joe Biden’s announcement of a vaccine mandate last week. It was an angry speech, which started by explaining that “many of us are frustrated with the nearly 80 million Americans who are still not vaccinated,” and went on to announce that “our patience is wearing thin,” and “your refusal has cost all of us.” Biden, not normally one for oratorial effects, even conveyed a sense of barely contained rage by muttering, “Get vaccinated!” as he walked off the stage.

“Enjoying the angry Dad vibes from this Biden speech,” came the cheerful comment of former Justice Department spokesman and MSNBC analyst Matthew Miller:

Who’d attracted Biden’s anger — the unvaccinated — was clear. The why was more confusing. The president decried how “the unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals… leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or pancreatitis or cancer,” a legitimate enough point. But after reassuring those who’d “done their part” that just “one out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized” this summer, Biden nonetheless explained that “a distinct minority of Americans” is “causing unvaccinated people to die.” He added: “We’re going to protect the vaccinated from unvaccinated co-workers.”

As many noted, the statements were contradictory. If the vaccine really is that effective, the overwhelming consequences of of any failure to get vaccinated will be borne by the unvaccinated themselves. But Biden’s speech was as much about directing anger as policy. The mandate was an extraordinary step, but Biden’s unique — and uniquely strange — rhetorical setup, which framed the decision as a way to stop “them” from doing “damage” and killing “us,” was just as big a story.

The arrival of Covid-19 has exacerbated a troubling divide that’s been growing in America for decades, and is elucidated at length in Michael Sandel’s recent The Tyranny of Merit. The book tells a politically unsettling story about meritocracy in America, one that runs counter to prevailing narratives on both the left and the right. Though mention of Covid-19 is limited to a few paragraphs in a new prologue, the pandemic in many ways has become the ultimate test case of Sandel’s thesis: that we Americans have been so conditioned to believe that winners deserve to win that we’ve found ways to hate losers of any kind as moral failures, even when life is at stake, and especially when lack of education is seen as a factor.

It’s not remotely the same kind of book, but The Tyranny of Merit does follow up on themes in Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. Lasch’s late seventies premise described American society devolved into a ceaseless all-against-all competition on all fronts, from the professional to the physical to the social and sexual and beyond. Moreover, Lasch wrote, if the original “American dream” was imbued with at least some vague ideas that success should be tied to virtues like thrift, discipline, and wisdom, by the disco age “the pursuit of wealth lost the few shreds of moral meaning.”

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/does-america-hate-the-poorly-educated

Prior to the Reformation the clergy dominated society with their power legitimated by their position as emissaries of God validated by apostolic succession.

The Reformation and the Thirty Years War dispossessed the clergy and established the nobility with their power legitimated by noble birth.

The French Revolution and WW I & II dispossessed the nobility and established the bourgeoisie with their power legitimated by ownership.

Just as the bourgeoisie helped the nobility overthrow the clergy, the intellectual classes helped the bourgeoisie overthrow the nobility.

Most likely the intellectual classes in the form of some combination of technocrats and policy wonks will eventually overthrow the bourgeoisie and have their power legitimated by intelligence and skills.

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Irish_Dem

(47,597 posts)
1. We hate people who are killing us.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:16 PM
Sep 2021

Killing their own children.
Taking up hospital beds unnecessarily and causing deaths of others.
Continuing the pandemic.
Preventing a return to normal life.
Damaging our society.
Ending our democracy.
Overthrowing a legitimate government.

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paleotn

(17,994 posts)
6. Can't blame them. Statistically speaking....
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:49 PM
Sep 2021

educational attainment correlates positively with voting for Dems. Better to keep them uneducated and religious.

betsuni

(25,734 posts)
4. Another way to call Democrats wealthy elites who ignore the working/middle classes.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:41 PM
Sep 2021

The old "elites" insult: "a subject that almost no one in high society wants to hear about, let alone those in the academic world." High society? What a strange article.

paleotn

(17,994 posts)
5. No, being poorly educated is not the issue in and of itself....
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

Being poorly educated, yet thinking grossly uninformed /misinformed opinions hold equal weight with expertise IS the problem.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
10. There are plenty of educated people pushing anti-vaxx nonsense, too, so I don't think
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:53 AM
Sep 2021

"hating the poorly educated" is a thing. Hating propagandized MAGAs and the cynical propagandists they follow slavishly -- yeah, there's your problem.

Johonny

(20,928 posts)
11. If the vaccine really is that effective, the overwhelming consequences of of any failure to get vacc
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sep 2021

That's the line that tells you the piece is not a serious piece. Has anything been debated more than this very subject.

Yeah, Matt, I'm vaccinated, but my fucking kids aren't.

Hey, Matt, those doctors and nurses are fucking humans too. They should not be subjected to the hardship of still managing a preventable disease just to do their fucking job.

Matt, you fuck stick, people with other illnesses have to use hospitals too. They're fucking suffering.


We could go on, but honestly anyone at this point like Matt should know the simple answers to that question. He just wants to push his magic bullshit theory. Fucking asshole.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
12. I mostly dislike the "willfully ignorant", the people...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

... who choose to ignore facts because they contradict the mystical ideas that they WANT to believe.

And sometimes they'll choose a wrong path simply because their "enemies" who earlier promoted the facts they don't like, also recommended something else which has no bearing on their fantasy worldview anyway. Yet those ideas came from their sworn enemies, so they must be bad too.



I can actually feel pity for the truly ignorant, especially in our modern society which continues to become more complex.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,229 posts)
14. Exactly. They are educated people who rely on what their pastor tells them
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:34 PM
Sep 2021

or what they read in some conspiracy laden news site over what their education and COMMON SENSE tells them. My CPA boss is one of them.

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