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Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:14 PM

President Obama has waged more war than any previous Nobel Peace Laureate except Kissinger!

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Reply President Obama has waged more war than any previous Nobel Peace Laureate except Kissinger! (Original post)
TransitJohn Jan 2012 OP
tridim Jan 2012 #1
greatauntoftriplets Jan 2012 #4
SidDithers Jan 2012 #7
ddeclue Jan 2012 #26
bhikkhu Jan 2012 #36
NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #32
alittlelark Jan 2012 #2
HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #3
CrispyQ Jan 2012 #19
spanone Jan 2012 #5
DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #6
Sheepshank Jan 2012 #8
Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #9
Mr Dixon Jan 2012 #10
liberal N proud Jan 2012 #11
Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #12
joeybee12 Jan 2012 #13
Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #17
liberal N proud Jan 2012 #24
Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #25
liberal N proud Jan 2012 #27
Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #28
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #14
AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #15
FSogol Jan 2012 #16
TransitJohn Jan 2012 #33
whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #18
ProSense Jan 2012 #20
TransitJohn Jan 2012 #34
cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #21
TransitJohn Jan 2012 #35
Broderick Jan 2012 #22
Scurrilous Jan 2012 #23
think Jan 2012 #29
treestar Jan 2012 #30
jody Jan 2012 #31

Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:18 PM

1. He has ended more wars than he has "waged"

Oh how I miss Unrec.

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Response to tridim (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:22 PM

4. +1

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Response to tridim (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:36 PM

7. +1...nt

Sid

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Response to tridim (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:06 PM

26. Nope.. the war in Iraq is still going on with our mercenaries instead of our Army and Obama didn't

 

end that war we were told to leave by the Iraqi government.

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Response to ddeclue (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:13 PM

36. If an embassy with security guards constitutes war...

then just about every country on the planet is at war with just about every other country.

I don't see how shifting the goalposts from "end the war and bringing all the troops home" to "close the embassy and bring home the diplomats and guards too" accomplishes anything.

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Response to tridim (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:02 PM

32. Yep. Unrec in spirit.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:19 PM

2. Nice strawman n/t

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:14 PM

19. +1

My first thought when I read the story about the recent defense cuts was, that drones are a cheaper way to wage war, especially for a nation with our balance sheet.

It is very troubling.


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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:24 PM

5. bwahahahahahaaa

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Response to spanone (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:34 PM

6. Yes. Peace, jester.

 

Peace.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:38 PM

8. do you have a comparative list?

 

it would be helpful to bolster your talking point.

At this point, I can't tell if you are joking or serious and the premis of the OP.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:51 PM

9. Kinda like giving Ken Lay the "Ethics in Business" award.

 

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:55 PM

10. IMO

This is a Yawn topic

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:56 PM

11. What war did he wage?

He inherited wars and has ended wars, but I can't think of one he has "waged" to date.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:57 PM

12. mary jane?

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:01 PM

13. Difference between waging and starting...Bush started them...

 

Obama continued to wage them...there's also Libya.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:12 PM

17. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Tunisia.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:13 PM

24. Those were wars waged by bu$h and Cheney

He inherited them.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:04 PM

25. He's still waging them.

 

Of course, acknowledging that we lost them is not a good campaign message.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 06:41 PM

27. He is trying to end them

You noticed Iraq I hope!

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 07:33 PM

28. And, the killing is still going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

 

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:02 PM

14. Last I looked

Bush started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and dumped both of them on Obama, who vowed to end both of them during the 2008 campaign but made it clear that it would not be immediately, which I thought was reasonable. Our military involvement in Libya was in support of NAT and limited to air support. We never put any boots on the ground. What other wars are you referring to? Moreover, we are out of Iraq now and will be out of Afghanistan in 2014. Bush let both wars drag on for 7-8 years (Afghanistan) and 5-6 (Iraq) with no willingness to consider any timetables for ending either of them (well, at least until the very end in regards to Iraq).

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:04 PM

15. Fun fact: He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on securing loose nukes.

 

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:07 PM

16. Fuck Ron Paul.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:05 PM

33. Why do you keep posting that in my threads? eom

n/t

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:12 PM

18. As he's an adherent of the fraudulent war on terror

the wars, in one form or another, will continue.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:26 PM

20. Obama

joins the ranks of President who ended a war, and will likely become a President who ends two major wars.

He is also the first President to end a defense system and take serious action to rein in nuclear materials, which is what earned him the Nobel Prize.

He also put forward a new strategic vision for the military:

Obama Puts His Stamp on Strategy for a Leaner Military
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/obama-at-pentagon-to-outline-cuts-and-strategic-shifts.html

In fact, his proposals are more tangible than the propaganda that Ron Paul has been pushing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002155700

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Response to ProSense (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:06 PM

34. How is Ron Paul germane to the OP?

n/t

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:45 PM

21. False (unless you're relying on trick definitions)

One can say that only the commander in chief can be said to wage war and that is what it is.

In terms of the real political meaning of the statement, though, I'd say Kissinger has Obama beat.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:07 PM

35. Good point about Kissinger, I'd forgotten about him.

Edited OP.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:47 PM

22. I see it differently

I think he has taken a completely different approach and got out of the Iraq quagmire in the process.

But I fear the war drums by the military industrial complex are beating hard for Iran. I can't support any war on Iran.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:58 PM

23. More than Teddy "I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one" Roosevelt?

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 08:57 PM

29. To be fair I've always thought of Obama's nobel prize as the world"s way of saying

 

"Thank God you are not George Bush!"

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:00 PM

30. No, he wound down one war and will wind down the other

Bush started both of them.

The Peace Price is not about who has the least to do with the war, or they'd have given it to me.

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Response to TransitJohn (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:01 PM

31. NWO speak -- "Hate is Love" and "War is Peace'. nt

 

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