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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 01:12 PM Sep 2021

Evergrande Gave Workers a Choice: Loan Us Cash or Lose Your Bonus

The Chinese property giant owes $300 billion and is on the hook for as many as 1.6 million apartments. It may owe tens of thousands of its employees money, too.

When the troubled Chinese property giant Evergrande was starved for cash earlier this year, it turned to its own employees with a strong-arm pitch: Those who wanted to keep their bonuses would have to give Evergrande a short-term loan.

Some workers tapped their friends and family for money to lend to the company. Others borrowed from the bank. Then, this month, Evergrande suddenly stopped paying back the loans, which had been packaged as high-interest investments.

Now, hundreds of employees have joined panicked home buyers in demanding their money back from Evergrande, gathering outside the company’s offices across China to protest last week.

Once China’s most prolific property developer, Evergrande has become the country’s most indebted company. It owes money to lenders, suppliers and foreign investors. It owes unfinished apartments to home buyers and has racked up more than $300 billion in unpaid bills. Evergrande faces lawsuits from creditors and has seen its shares lose more than 80 percent of their value this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/business/china-evergrande-debt-protests.html
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Evergrande Gave Workers a Choice: Loan Us Cash or Lose Your Bonus (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2021 OP
That would be a sign you should update your resume! Tomconroy Sep 2021 #1
DISGUSTING Faux pas Sep 2021 #2
That's one of the more bizarre employment practices I've heard of. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #3
300+ billion on the line empedocles Sep 2021 #4
Massive tidal wave of bond market collapse moving out of China. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2021 #5
Corruption in China - imagine empedocles Sep 2021 #6
Yup, the Chinese government's hands on role in the economy is problematic Amishman Sep 2021 #8
I wonder if they're related to Everstuck container transport... Buns_of_Fire Sep 2021 #7
Evergreen Group is Taiwanese, completely different firm nt Celerity Sep 2021 #10
That doesn't even sound legal. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #9

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. 300+ billion on the line
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:22 PM
Sep 2021

Evergrande debt: Collapse could have domino effect on ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/20/evergrande-debt...

17 hours ago · Evergrande, the world's most indebted property developer, is crumbling under the weight of more than $300 billion of debt and warned more than once it could default.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. Massive tidal wave of bond market collapse moving out of China.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

Huge huge numbers of real estate giants, of big banks who lent to them, of companies that insured every aspect of the mess are all dependent of the apparently fictional value that held that market up.
Numbers were fudged...Everglade reported NO losses for years now....wtf?
No one looked too closely until last month.

bonds are debt. Global economies have relied on living on debt as money.
When you stop regulating debt markets, you get bigger and bigger debt until it becomes evident there is not earthly way to pay it all back.
Simple as that.
On an intertwined global scale China is having a fiscal neutron bomb explosion, and trying to deny it.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
8. Yup, the Chinese government's hands on role in the economy is problematic
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:21 PM
Sep 2021

Especially their desire to appear infallible.

Bad economic news reflects poorly on the party and their leadership, so bad news is suppressed as much as possible.

Hopefully it all falls down and the current government topples. China is not our friend

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