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Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:55 PM

So, the idea is to put raising the debt limit in the reconciliation bill!




oooooo, nice idea!

This way President Biden's "Build Back Better" agenda can't get derailed by the two "moderate" senators.

Not raising the debt limit is political suicide and will tank the economy and crash the stock market, so no way even the two "moderate" senators can vote against such a bill.

Nice!

We all win!



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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:56 PM

1. Has anyone asked King Manchin and Queen Sinema

what they think of that?

Right, no need to ask, they'll tell us soon enough.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:58 PM

3. If they want to tank the ENTIRE economy, that's on them.

Seems they are going to be out smarted and President Biden wins.




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Response to bluewater (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 05:29 PM

10. I wouldn't count on anything

A stand alone debt ceiling bill is almost certainly fully drafted and ready to go at the 11th hour if needed.

They can flip the script, us the rest of the party willing to crash the economy for the sake of getting the economic bill passed? I'm not sure our party leadership has it in them.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 05:49 PM

11. At least the onus will be on the 2 "moderate" senators

Where it belongs, imho.

this would force THEM to be the ones voting AGAINST a bill President Biden wants, if they so choose that is.

I think both will fold. That seems to be the consensus according to the tweet from the NBC News reporter.



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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:57 PM

2. the alleged moderate senators can vote no on the reconciliation bill nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:59 PM

4. Not with raising the debt limit in it.

That's a political third rail.

Not raising the debt limit would tank the economy and stock market.

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Response to bluewater (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:19 PM

16. The Republicans say they will vote against raising the debt in its present form.

Apparently they do not think it's political suicide. I would not it past those two moderate Democrats to do the same.

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:59 PM

5. I hope they're not that foolish.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 05:03 PM

6. There is no way they can vote against a bill that raises the debt limit.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 05:22 PM

8. Time will tell

But it puts all the pressure back on the two "moderate" senators.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 07:58 PM

12. Oh I

believe the two supposed moderates would vote against it.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:00 PM

13. The debt ceiling is one of the "types" of bills that can be done by reconciliation

either as a standalone or in combination with a revenue and/or a spending one.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:06 PM

14. I think Sinema will still not vote for it.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Wed Sep 22, 2021, 08:15 PM

15. Doubt it would pass that way.

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