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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Texas fraudit has finally shattered any remaining spin the GOP was ever about election integrity
Given TFG won in Texas, this latest scam and power-grab initiated by governor Abbott clearly demonstrates the GOP is hellbent on undermining American elections and with them, our democracy. Make no mistakethe fascists are here. The plan to sow division, and chaos throughout our country is working beautifully.
walkingman
(8,111 posts)sow doubt about elections. This is all part of the GOP long game. Change the voting structure in states, reject the voters choices, let the legislatures make the decisions. All based on distrust of our elections.
Not sure how to combat it unless we can do something at the Federal level? Nasty white people have done this since our founding. They want to go back to allowing the ruling class make all governmental decisions. The rest of us are just workers and political fodder.
dlk
(12,119 posts)Their malevolent intent can never be underestimated. Its been clear for some time Republicans really dont believe in democracy. It appears the lack of urgency with some Democrats for passing voter protection legislation can be attributed to the corrupting influence of dark money in our political system.
orwell
(7,861 posts)...they are now just a proxy for Libertarian corporate America.
The only reason the GOP stills stands is because of the financial and moral support of US corporations.
They don't care about the "batshit crazy". All they care about is low taxes, bargain basement labor rates, no regulations, and elimination of anti-trust laws.
Which party does that sound like...
dlk
(12,119 posts)Our unofficial fourth branch of government is the lobbying branch. Im afraid this will remain the case unless dark money is somehow removed from the political process.
orwell
(7,861 posts)...opened the money floodgates, but this has been an ongoing project for Corporate America for decades. Democracies are unacceptable when you are used to the feudal organizational model.
The 60's scared the shit out of these sociopaths and they have been waging a slow cold war since. They attack by land sea and air (fake grass roots organizations, anti labor trade policies, and total media control.) This is organized and it is relentless.
It is not about what people want, it is about what our overlords will allow us to have.
The GOP is just the political arm. Power by any means necessary.
The American Democratic experiment is likely in it's death throes...
dlk
(12,119 posts)I agree with your point about the backlash against the 60s. This is one reason why bit tech, like Facebook is so insidious. Zucks goals are abundantly clear and theyre not democratic. The pandemic, however, has caused many more American to begin paying attention and Im cautiously optimistic our democracy will survive. It will be a close battle, though.
HUAJIAO
(2,519 posts)It has nothing to do with vaccines or masks.
mopinko
(71,370 posts)i guess they threw in 1 that tfg won to throw us off the scent or something. or maybe it's a little too purple for them.
but they hope to find some bullshit to chase dem election officials out of office. by force if necessary.
Republicans dont believe in two-party rule or sharing power, as in democracy They check off the boxes for fascists.
underpants
(185,330 posts)The idea of starting an audit now is purely pandering to a crowd of one.
dlk
(12,119 posts)With Russian assistance, no doubt. Abbott is looking unhinged these days.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)and/or support in general for his agenda from the other PuQ's
dlk
(12,119 posts)This latest stunt is to make sure that doesnt happen.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)dlk
(12,119 posts)The goal is to establish permanent GOP minority rule. He will do it however he can, whether by passing voter suppression legislation or damaging the election systems in four large texas counties. Its all part of the same playbook.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Seem to me this is just what the GOP has become
dlk
(12,119 posts)By any stretch, Abbott is no saint. However, I think TFGs leverage over Abbott is making him take these recent over-the-top actions that are so extreme, they are harming him more than helping him.
Whether its the vigilante law, the border agents on horseback with whips, or this most recent fraudit, that will waste millions of taxpayer dollars. TFG is pulling the strings and sitting back & enjoying the show with his twisted mind.
With each new extremist undertaking, Abbotts numbers sink further, even in bright red Texas. Of course, if the election systems are compromised enough, it wont matter, which I think is the ultimate goal.
You are right about the GOP, though. I see them having devolved into a fascist organization that doesnt believe in democracy. TFG was only a means to an end for them and it has always been a mutually manipulative relationship.
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ck4829
(35,597 posts)dlk
(12,119 posts)How do we light a fire of urgency under Democrats? Im not an expert. What are your thoughts?
CrispyQ
(37,616 posts)dlk
(12,119 posts)Theres a good reason for Republicans widespread battle against them.
JustAnotherGen
(33,034 posts)Their fraud will be inflicted on.
Look what happens to the voting machines after these fraudulent activities.
The fix is in. Those voting machines will not be replaced or not replaced to the previous number . . . its all about making it as difficult as possible for those folks to vote . . . just in time for the Governor's race.
dlk
(12,119 posts)This latest anti-democratic power grab only underscores the urgency of Democratic voting rights legislation in congress.
JustAnotherGen
(33,034 posts)Its how I was from the day the asshole was inaugurated until Biden was inaugurated.
I will breathe much better when every American who wants to vote CAN vote - and that happens with suspending the filibuster to get the two voting rights bills through Congress.
I'm very worried about Warnock's re-election.
LiberalArkie
(16,033 posts)dlk
(12,119 posts)However, the fact remains we only have one major political party that still believes in democracy. The GOP has devolved into a fascist tribe
Botany
(71,811 posts)They haven't been about election integrity for years.
See bush v Gore
See Ohio 2004
See Trump 2016
See Dick Nixon's deal to stop LBJ's plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968
See gerrymandering
See voter I.D. laws
See interstate cross check
See future Chief Justice Burger's stopping people from registering to vote in Arizona
The GOP knows they are a minority party so they have to cheat in elections, pack the courts, gerrymander,
flood the zone with dirty and dark money, and manipulate the media (Hell, I just learned that Zuckerberg
and Facebook paid a $5 billion penalty for working with Cambridge Analytica/Russia to help rat fuck the
2016 election.)
dlk
(12,119 posts)The GOP has devolved into an organization thats a clear threat to our democracy.
Botany
(71,811 posts)... on electronic machines the exit polls quit matching the vote and the GOP got more and
more people in despite the demographics and societal desires being against them.
dlk
(12,119 posts)Electronic voting machines that cant be audited set the stage for too much mischief.
Botany
(71,811 posts).... 2020 Trump flipped out because mail in voting because that took a lot of the EVMs out of the equation.
BTW When she was Sec. of State in OH Jennifer Brunner had an in depth and long term study done on
electronic voting machines and it showed that all of the machines had electronic back doors that allowed
outside parties to look @ and or manipulate the data in the machines w/out leaving any "finger prints."
MissMillie
(38,852 posts)that's nation-wide.
All of the states that are close use machines that generate paper back-ups.
tanyev
(44,003 posts)I wondered why the news story on the audit kept saying "Texas secretary of state's office" instead of naming the secretary of state. Isn't that conveeenient??
Texas Secretary of State Ruth Ruggero Hughs, the states top elections official, has notified the governor she would be stepping down from her post, which she was appointed to in August 2019, according to a press release from her office. Her resignation is effective May 31 the last day of the legislation session.
A secretary of state appointed in between regular legislative sessions is constitutionally required to leave office immediately if the Senate goes through an entire session without confirming them. The Senate Nominations Committee, chaired by Republican Dawn Buckingham, never took up Hughs nomination. Buckingham's office declined to comment on why the committee did not consider the nomination.
Hughs' departure at the end of the session will allow Abbott to pick her replacement without needing an immediate confirmation vote from the Texas Senate, which will be unable to vet the next pick until lawmakers return to the Capitol in the fall for a special session to redraw the states political maps.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/21/secretary-of-state-resign-texas/
dlk
(12,119 posts)They have made enormous inroads toward hollowing out our democracy to ensure their permanent, minority rule.
iemanja
(54,062 posts)to the MAGAs. It does not.
dlk
(12,119 posts)czarjak
(12,171 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,096 posts)...but it's not gaining traction with the majority of Americans. If anything, it's making millions of people like myself realize that we need to be prepared to fight GOP fascism in whatever way is necessary to save our democracy.
I have several neighbors who are former Republicans, Trump & his antics drove them out of the party & they're now registered Dem & will vote Dem because they see what the GOP has become. So while the GOP election fraud BS does fire up their brainwashed cult base, I think they underestimate how many people it's driving away & how much it's making millions of people more determined than ever to defeat them.
dlk
(12,119 posts)Its clear, so many GOP leaders have no respect for their constituents and couldnt care less whether they live or die
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,792 posts)It's a loyalty test. Do you believe in democracy or the retired guy at Mar-A-Lago? If you don't jump onto the Big Lie Train then TFG is going to run over you with his Base.
dlk
(12,119 posts)MissMillie
(38,852 posts)It's all about the grift.
Report on NPR today says that the Ninja report recommends that these audits are done regularly and on a rotating basis.
Money, Money, Mondy
And if it damages democracy, all the better, as far as they're concerned.