Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,304 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 07:53 PM Sep 2021

Rashida Tlaib Doubles Down on 'Apartheid' in Israel Remarks After Bipartisan Criticism

U.S. Representative Rashida Tlaib defended her vote against providing additional funding for Israel's Iron Dome defense system, doubling down on her previous remarks linking the nation to apartheid amid bipartisan criticism.

Tlaib, a Michigan Democrat who is the only Palestinian member of Congress, received pushback from members of both parties who support Israel after she and other progressives voted against the $1 billion funding, which overwhelmingly passed the House on Thursday. The funding was intended to replenish the Iron Dome's missiles supply following several violent clashes earlier this year.




While speaking on the House floor Thursday, Tlaib said: "I will not support an effort to enable and support war crimes, human rights abuses and violence. The Israeli government is an apartheid regime."

Tlaib's remarks prompted criticism from members of both parties. Representative Ted Deutch, a Florida Democrat, ditched his prepared remarks to respond to Tlaib.

-more-

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rashida-tlaib-doubles-down-on-apartheid-in-israel-remarks-after-bipartisan-criticism/ar-AAOOzOr
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Rashida Tlaib Doubles Down on 'Apartheid' in Israel Remarks After Bipartisan Criticism (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
I don't always agree with her but she's right about the apartheid in Irael. brush Sep 2021 #1
+1 Celerity Sep 2021 #5
My father served in Israel's Air Force and I'm here to say Tlaib is 100% correct MatthewG. Sep 2021 #2
She is correct malaise Sep 2021 #3
I should know why, but what are the reasons the US is such a staunch provider of $ for Israel? CurtEastPoint Sep 2021 #4
The bill in question passed 420 to 9 LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #8
Holocaust and NoRethugFriends Sep 2021 #10
Throughout their 70+ years of existence Israel has been under threat of attack and annihilation. George II Sep 2021 #15
She's right. What's happening in Israel is obscene. (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2021 #6
I strongly disagree with Tlaib and I agree with Ted Deutch LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #7
Steny Hoyer gave a very emotional and effective 11+ minute speech shortly after Deutch spoke... George II Sep 2021 #12
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #14
She disgusts me. tritsofme Sep 2021 #9
She's also the one who instigated the booing of Hillary Clinton early last year, despite the fact... George II Sep 2021 #13
I remember that stunt LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #16
This recent concept that Israel is an "apartheid regime" has caught on with a some.... George II Sep 2021 #11
It is popular because it casts Israel as "racist". Racism is bad, therefore Israel is bad. Behind the Aegis Sep 2021 #17

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
2. My father served in Israel's Air Force and I'm here to say Tlaib is 100% correct
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 08:01 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:00 PM - Edit history (4)

Congresswoman Tlaib is 100% correct, and I say this as someone who’s father served in Israel’s Air Force in the early 1960’s. (And believe me, it gives me no pleasure to write this.)

Israel’s different than 20th Century South Africa in the sense that Arabs living in Israel’s pre-1967 boundaries do enjoy civil rights and have served in high positions of state. That’s not nothing, but Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank absolutely qualifies as Apartheid. In fact, many Israelis I’ve spoken have privately told me they agree with the comparison, although for obvious reasons some become uncomfortable when the metaphor is spoken aloud.

NoRethugFriends

(2,343 posts)
10. Holocaust and
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:04 PM
Sep 2021

Israel's Arab neighbors continually threatening to destroy Israel. Could have something to do with it.

By the way I do detest netanyahu and much of the actions of the Israeli government.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Steny Hoyer gave a very emotional and effective 11+ minute speech shortly after Deutch spoke...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sep 2021

In it he spoke of the need for Iron Dome and the fact that it had overwhelmingly bipartisan support in the House. In it also pointed out that on Tuesday he announced that the Thursday vote would take place, it was NOT a rushed vote as some have claimed.

Here's Hoyer's complete speech:

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. She's also the one who instigated the booing of Hillary Clinton early last year, despite the fact...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

...that Clinton has been virtually out of the spotlight for most of the previous four years, and despite the fact that the moderator said there should be no booing.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. This recent concept that Israel is an "apartheid regime" has caught on with a some....
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:19 PM
Sep 2021

....despite the fact that it simply is not true. I wonder why it's suddenly so popular with some?

But I suppose what upsets many Americans is that some repeatedly falsely condemn "war crimes, human rights abuses, and violence" by Israel, but never say a peep about the the atrocities committed by Hamas.

As many of the speakers during Thursday's debate stated, were it not for the actions of the Hamas terrorist organization there would be no need for Iron Dome. Just recently, over the course of only a few days, Hamas rained about 4500 rockets into Israel with civilian neighborhoods as the targets, and Iron Dome intercepted those that might have gotten through.

Was there no condemnation of those rocket attacks on civilian neighborhoods in Israel by those accusing Israel of "war crimes, human rights abuses, and violence"? I didn't see any.

Israel has been under constant threat of attack and annihilation for the entire 70+ years of existence. Again, as many of those who spoke on Thursday pointed out, Israel has the right to defend themselves and Iron Dome is a necessary defensive system - it is NOT an offensive weapon.

Behind the Aegis

(54,014 posts)
17. It is popular because it casts Israel as "racist". Racism is bad, therefore Israel is bad.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:57 PM
Sep 2021

That, frankly, is the long and short of it. It makes the situation there binary and simplistic. It is a term constantly misused and a new meaning bleeding into and over the original meaning helps some justify their own bigotry. Is there bigotry in Israel? Of course! There is ain't a nation in existence which doesn't have at least some issues of "othering". Notice, too, how she claims she is not going to be "silenced"....by whom?! Because someone disagreeing with her and calling her out is now the same as "silencing", it is no wonder that terms like "apartheid" are misused. Want to see apartheid in action, one only needs to turn to Afghanistan and look how women are now being treated there under the Taliban...that is actual apartheid, that is to say, "a group of citizens are clearly divided based on gender". It is nothing more than a bombastic propaganda term.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Rashida Tlaib Doubles Dow...