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Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:12 AM

Received a text from friend this morning about a trump supporter paying for groceries

Text from friend- At grocery store just watched a guy in trump 2020 hat pay for his groceries with a snap card this absolutely makes no sense.


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Reply Received a text from friend this morning about a trump supporter paying for groceries (Original post)
Duncanpup Sep 27 OP
Walleye Sep 27 #1
Sherman A1 Sep 27 #2
gab13by13 Sep 27 #3
Delphinus Sep 27 #5
True Blue American Sep 27 #33
ck4829 Sep 27 #4
Ray Bruns Sep 27 #10
Tadpole Raisin Sep 27 #6
KS Toronado Sep 27 #9
Golfnbrew Sep 27 #18
Farmer-Rick Sep 27 #25
LunaSea Sep 27 #28
Tadpole Raisin Sep 27 #30
Evolve Dammit Sep 27 #7
Vinca Sep 27 #8
3Hotdogs Sep 27 #13
gordianot Sep 27 #11
doc03 Sep 27 #12
Skittles Sep 27 #41
Midnight Writer Sep 27 #14
gab13by13 Sep 27 #15
hadEnuf Sep 27 #22
Midnight Writer Sep 27 #27
hadEnuf Sep 27 #34
jaxexpat Sep 27 #23
IronLionZion Sep 27 #29
lark Sep 27 #16
Bear Creek Sep 27 #17
hadEnuf Sep 27 #19
Roisin Ni Fiachra Sep 27 #20
LaMouffette Sep 27 #39
2naSalit Sep 27 #40
Loryn Sep 27 #21
czarjak Sep 27 #26
3catwoman3 Sep 27 #32
IronLionZion Sep 27 #24
BradAllison Sep 27 #31
Seinan Sensei Sep 27 #35
whopis01 Sep 27 #36
lambchopp59 Sep 27 #37
Escurumbele Sep 27 #38

Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:14 AM

1. This only makes sense to Republicans. They have brain damage

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:18 AM

2. Makes perfect sense to me.

It is the “I have mine and that is all that matters” mindset.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:23 AM

3. I have argued this with Trumpers for years,

there are more GQP voters on food stamps than Democratic voters. Just look at the states that take in more from the government than pay in. Blue states fund red states.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:34 AM

5. Agreed.

Without the Blue states, the Red states would be up a creek.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:28 AM

33. I know a family of Trumpers

Who are on welfare , disability because he was once beat up by 2 black men, he is a scarecrow thin drug addict. The whole family have what they insultinglly call,” Obama phones.”

Never mind they are Bush phones given to welfare recipients to find work.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:29 AM

4. The mindset of "I earned MY welfare, *they* (groups they don't like) didn't!"

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:03 AM

10. Exactly. the trumper must not have been one ot "those people".

You know who I mean. Wink. Wink. Nudge. Nudge.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:37 AM

6. Since republicans representing their state constituents love getting

stimulus money while they vote against the bills and campaign non stop about how terrible dems are, I wish their was a good legal (can’t squirm out of it) way to say -

okay, we respect your wishes and your constituents and will honor your vote. If both senators and/or more than 50% of your reps vote against the bills we will honor that and allow you not to take this horrible money or benefits you feel are bad for your state.

Unrealistic, illegal?, but it would be oh so fun to see the hypocrites figure out how to explain themselves.

I am so bad!

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Response to Tadpole Raisin (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:02 AM

9. Oh, that would be fun!

All you red state congressmen who are always complaining about socialism,
well no more Social Security checks for your voters. Happy reelection.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:35 AM

18. If they could limit that to specific voters

Some of us SS recipients are "stuck" in red states...

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Response to Golfnbrew (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:00 AM

25. Yeah, really

I couldn't afford a farm like this in California or in most any of the more liberal states.

There are a lot of us radical leftist here in the South. Why should we cede some of the most beautiful land in the country to a bunch of idiot Trump worshipers. They don't appreciate or take care of it.

Remember where Al Gore came from.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:07 AM

28. Hat tip....

Cheers, FR!

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:23 AM

30. We all know people vote against their own interests but they unbelievably never

make the connection even when it is explained. They get the benefit and they vote against it.

In my fantasy world above There is no way to delude yourself. If the voters didn’t understand that the republican reps would and would know they would be blamed so enough of them would vote to make sure it wouldn’t happen.

Still it’s just a fantasy designed to reveal hypocrisy out of frustration that logic and analysis are rejected which, to the extreme, is evident with COVID patients dying while rejecting the diagnosis.

I never thought I’d see that in my life to this degree.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:37 AM

7. Socialist Bastard. Sucking the teat of the government. Get a job LOSER.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:51 AM

8. Well, that's an easy one. The guy sent all his cash to his lord and savior Loser 45.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:17 AM

13. ---or the "real' Lord and Savior. I was listening to Dave Ramsey and this woman calls up...

She got a $10K settlement from her car accident....

"I gave the 10% to my church, what do I do with the rest?"

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:09 AM

11. You must be nice person.

If this had happened to me I would probably been arrested just for my comments and not any overt act of physical violence. In other words I would not be able to keep my mouth shut in spite of clear facts this person has apparently serious issues.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:13 AM

12. When they get it they earned it, when someone else gets

it it's socialism. Try to convince them SS, Medicare and VA pensions are socialism.
From the homes with Trump flags it looks like none of them have jobs.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:14 PM

41. the difference definitely is the color of your skin

absolutely

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:24 AM

14. The poorest section of my town is covered with Trump signs.

I believe Democrats have a messaging problem. The Right Wing owns the narrative around here.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:30 AM

15. Same here,

they are racists, bigots, and misogynists, we don't need them in our party. It is true. I golf with an 88 year old Korean war vet, did Meals on Wheels, active in the church, did military funerals, I found out since Trump came on the scene, he is a racist, bigot, and misogynist.

The GQP has done a fantastic job with messaging by making Democrats into demons, no need for debate, if someone is a Democrat he/she is a demon.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:53 AM

22. Democrats need to simplify the messages. Many in the working class / poor don't get into politics

that much but the right talks the working man's talk. Everything the GOP says is backed up and broken down for digestion by a massive propaganda network, 24/7/365.

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Response to hadEnuf (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:01 AM

27. Exactly. These are people that were apolitical, but now watch politics like they do sports.

They root for "their" team and are caught up in the superficial drama and competition, ignoring the real world consequences.

Right Wing Hate Radio running on a dozen small radio stations, Sinclair News own the local TV station, FOX and it's ilk on the cable, conservative politics openly promoted in churches.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:35 AM

34. Some of us have hoped that the right wing genie could be put back in the bottle with some type of

Fairness Doctrine style legislation but after decades of this it will be very hard. We have also done little to counter the propaganda machine, with the exception of things like Air America which was a apparently sabotaged so it would fail.

Taking the high road and letting people figure it out for themselves is noble and how it should be, but in these times we need to fight fire with fire. We need our own effective messaging apparatus.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:59 AM

23. The GOP message system targets lottery ticket addicts and other "challenged" folks.

There are so many of them because their base expansion program dovetails so nicely with their "sustain a large underclass" policies.

The GOP has discovered the secret of selling ice to Eskimos, water to the drowning and home insurance to the homeless.

Frauds don't count on reasonably intelligent, cautious or emotionally stable people to fund their retirement. Wanna buy a pillow?

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:07 AM

29. Most Americans are closer to being completely broke than being impacted by tax raises/cuts

and are just waiting patiently for wealth to trickle down from above. They figure Trump has gold toilet seats and private jets so he's obviously looking out for them from high atop Trump tower and Mar-A-Lago.

They can't trust elitists who ride the train to work and have their spouse and kids work normal jobs.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:30 AM

16. Repugs hve zero sense of irony & thibk they are entitled to own everything.

So yeah, they don't see the dissonance of complaining about (black/brown) welfare queens while taking food stamps themselves. They deserve it because they are white muricans and the rest don't because they aren't.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:32 AM

17. Almost always

Poor, uneducated and go to church. They think it's not them the republicans are talking about. If the republicans would get rid of the safety nets they are in it would be alright because 1. More money to top 1% would trickle down to them. 2. Deregulation will create jobs. 3. They are saving babies not necessarily in that order.
But republicans always suffer from the someone else syndrome. That won't happen to me. Like COVID-19, cancer, unemployment, being homeless. Jesus would keep that from happening. The people who have something happened did something wrong to be punished. And the one thing that would get them out of poverty like getting an education. If you like to learn you are trying to be like god. (Actually was told that one), education is liberal brain washing, elites have degrees and to them that makes it bad.
Years of Republican brainwashing in church. The first I remember is going to a local church just before Reagan they had republican businessmen go the churches to tell people not to vote for Jimmy Carter. He was going to make Southern Baptist the State religion. Lol.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:40 AM

19. People like that are idiots and make no sense.

They just want to be "part of something big" in their minds. Even if it will hurt them in the long run or at the very least do nothing for them.

Sort of like people who get suckered into the Amway pyramiding scheme. They tell you they are going to be flying around in their personal helicopters from their mansions while you eat Spaghettios. Then they get back into to their rusted out Ford F-150 and leave.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:46 AM

20. Red States are full of TFG supporters on federal government assistance.

Federal Anti-Poverty Programs Primarily Help the GOP's Base

Even as congressional Republicans mobilize for a new drive to retrench federal anti-poverty efforts, whites without a college degree—the cornerstone of the modern GOP electoral coalition—have emerged as principal beneficiaries of those programs, according to a study released Thursday morning.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal policy-analysis group, found that in both percentage terms and absolute numbers, federal programs reduced poverty among working-age whites without a college degree more than they did among non-college-educated Hispanics, African Americans, or members of other races, and far more than they did among college-educated adults of any race. The number of these working-age whites, in fact, exceeded the combined number of non-college-educated blacks, Hispanics, and members of other races that made such gains.

These findings, based on 2014 Census Bureau data, echo other studies showing that blue-collar whites have been among the principal beneficiaries of the Affordable Care Act. Both results underscore the challenge Republicans face reconciling their ideological determination to shrink the federal government with the practical needs of their increasingly working-class coalition.

Donald Trump, for instance, won about two-thirds of whites without a college degree—the most for any Republican since Ronald Reagan in his 1984 landslide—and they provided almost exactly half of his total votes, even though they represented only about one-third of the electorate, according to media exit polls. Similarly, 152 House Republicans, out of 241 total, represent heavily blue-collar districts where the white population exceeds the national average and the portion of those whites with at least a four-year degree lags below the national average. The GOP’s overwhelming advantage in those working-class districts underpins their House majority.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/gop-base-poverty-snap-social-security/516861/


Social democracy never took root among economically disadvantaged, poorly educated Republicans because they see themselves not as exploited workers, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:13 AM

39. Thanks for the excerpt! This generation of lower-income, uneducated whites is lost (age 12 and up).

We need to get more liberal teachers into the elementary, middle, and high schools, and then have free college for everyone so that the next generation might develop a worldview beyond their parents' brainwashed, Trump-addled, nationalistic cult bubble.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:29 AM

40. In the red state where I currently live...

The only social services available are all federally funded or non-profits. Even the worker's comp system here is there to make sure the employer sees no consequences and you pay for all your medical needs and personal expenses. Nobody here sees the irony of there expectations.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:49 AM

21. It boggles the mind.

I deliver Meals on Wheels to a woman in subsidized housing, who lives on Social Security, and never fails to remind me that Trump is a born again Christian.

In my rural area the democrats are evil incarnate. The messaging started years ago, and I don't think they will change their minds until they lose everything. You do realize the liberals are coming for their guns?

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Response to Loryn (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:00 AM

26. The Big Lie: "I'm an Evangelical"

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Response to Loryn (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:28 AM

32. Trump only worships...

…himself and plastic Ivanka.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:00 AM

24. Republicans have always enjoyed food stamps, abortions, immigration, and other stuff

they claim to be against. They just don't want other folks they don't like to have it.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:27 AM

31. Ever seen rallies where REpublicans demand "hands off my medicare, socialists!!!"

Its on brand.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:42 AM

35. Good discussion. Good responses.

I think I've got a handle on WHAT.
I don't think I'll every fully comprehend the WHY.
I know what the demographics are.
But I'll never understand how someone can possibly endorse TFG when cognitive dissonance and sheer contradiction are eminently/ immanently apparent.
Again, good discussion above.

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:44 AM

36. I think your friend's text could be generalized to:

At [INSERT LOCATION] just watched a guy in trump 2020 hat [INSERT ACTION] this absolutely makes no sense.


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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 08:53 AM

37. Oh, I get it!!!

That's what TFG meant when he told his supporters "You're all going to be so rich!!!!". Now they can all drive Cadillacs on their welfare checks too!!!

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Response to Duncanpup (Original post)

Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:09 AM

38. He is a socialist

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