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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 01:48 PM Oct 2021

We're Losing Our Humanity, and the Pandemic Is to Blame



Tweet text:
Sarah Smith
@sarahesmith23
A pregnant woman asked her colleague to don a mask because she was afraid of what COVID could do to her baby.

Her colleague said: I’m not worried about it.

My first @ProPublica story is about how we’ve treated each other through a 19-month pandemic.

We’re Losing Our Humanity, and the Pandemic Is to Blame
“What the hell is happening? I feel like we are living on another planet. I don’t recognize anyone anymore.”
propublica.org
4:56 AM · Oct 7, 2021


https://www.propublica.org/article/were-losing-our-humanity-and-the-pandemic-is-to-blame


Kurt Thigpen clenched his hands around the edge of the table because if he couldn’t feel the sharp edges digging into his palms, he would have to think about how hard his heart was beating. He was grateful that his mask hid his expression. He hoped that no one could see him sweat.

A woman approached the lectern in the center aisle, a thick American flag scarf looped around her neck.

“Do you realize the mask, the CDC said it’s only 2% effective?” she demanded. “You’re failing our children, you’re failing our country, you’re failing our students’ future ….”

Thigpen fixed his eyes on a spot in the back of the blue-and-green auditorium. He let the person speaking at the lectern fade. It will be over soon, he told himself.

A dark-haired woman in a red vest removed her face shield as she moved to take her turn at the mic. As she began to speak, the school board employee responsible for queuing up public commenters interrupted: “Ma’am, I’m gonna have to ask you to please keep your shield on —”

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We're Losing Our Humanity, and the Pandemic Is to Blame (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
"The pandemic?" Hardly. It's the MAGA and trump's decision to make it part of their culture war. PSPS Oct 2021 #1
MAGAs, Hardly Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #3
No, Republicans are to blame. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #2
And deliberately destroyed public education Walleye Oct 2021 #5
Republicans are doing what many Americans want them to do. marie999 Oct 2021 #36
No, shithole, hate tv and radio and the republicans are the blame . .. Lovie777 Oct 2021 #4
When some among USa justified Bush's torture... sanatanadharma Oct 2021 #6
The pandemic crisis just revealed what was already there. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #7
This, yep. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #12
Yep. People have been shitty to each other since the first settlers arrived on this continent. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #13
Are you suggesting that slaveholding white men have been less than kind in the past? Effete Snob Oct 2021 #15
This. Nt XanaDUer2 Oct 2021 #24
I blame trump and his criminal followers. Ka-Dinh Oy Oct 2021 #8
It started with Rush and am hate radio. Phoenix61 Oct 2021 #9
It really got ramped up, and spread via 🤬 Rushbo & Co... electric_blue68 Oct 2021 #30
I think the pandemic is exposing more of what already existed. Solly Mack Oct 2021 #10
Ya think? Effete Snob Oct 2021 #17
I think it's more than simply a case of someone being rude - there's rude behavior and then there's Solly Mack Oct 2021 #19
Bingo Solly Mack, well said...nt MiHale Oct 2021 #20
fools long before. GETTINGTIRED Oct 2021 #11
We were losing our humanity long before the pandemic. Crunchy Frog Oct 2021 #14
Can someone remind me in what year we hit "peak humanity"? Effete Snob Oct 2021 #16
The pandemic is not to blame, All Media is. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #18
It's not the pandemic. It's Facebook. Initech Oct 2021 #21
None so blind. The pandemic is not to blame stillcool Oct 2021 #22
No, we are not losing our humanity. Biophilic Oct 2021 #23
+1 leftstreet Oct 2021 #29
Did grocery pickup today, maskholes going in and out and I thought "germ warfare" traitorsgalore Oct 2021 #25
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #32
Enjoy your tombstone pizza DUZombies. irisblue Oct 2021 #33
The assholes are out today irisblue Oct 2021 #35
People haven't changed. Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #26
Proof that many people are irredeemable trash dalton99a Oct 2021 #27
The people with I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2021 #28
I agree w Biophilic - Still MORE Kind People than not... electric_blue68 Oct 2021 #31
People who are super loyal to their teams are cancer SunImp Oct 2021 #34

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. MAGAs, Hardly
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 01:52 PM
Oct 2021

This was going on long before Trump Bear and his playmates cobbled together their program. They exploited the divisions in society, they didn't create them.... They are simply not that bright.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. No, Republicans are to blame.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 01:52 PM
Oct 2021

They have deliberately exploited and amplified the evil tendencies which were already prominent in most Republicans.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
36. Republicans are doing what many Americans want them to do.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:09 PM
Oct 2021

Hitler blamed the depression on the Jews and the German people agreed with him. And it wasn't just the Germans. They didn't have any problem finding Polish people to work in the concentration camps and the French helped them round up Jewish people living in France. In WWII we put American citizens of Japanese ancestry in camps and Americans agreed with it but did not arrest Germans living in this country. We didn't destroy fascism in WWII. This is a never-ending war between good and evil. Genocide is even considered a holy thing in the Old Testament. Look at the Protestant Reformation, Protestants and Catholics killing each other. I don't even know how many wars are being fought right now in the world. Yes, I have a very low opinion of humans in general.

sanatanadharma

(3,703 posts)
6. When some among USa justified Bush's torture...
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 01:58 PM
Oct 2021

When some among USa justified Bush's torture, the lack of humanity among some of USa was obvious.
That 'team' has become more deplorable over time.

GoCubsGo

(32,081 posts)
13. Yep. People have been shitty to each other since the first settlers arrived on this continent.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:26 PM
Oct 2021

What we're seeing now is nothing new. Far from it.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
15. Are you suggesting that slaveholding white men have been less than kind in the past?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

Yeah, this "OMG, people suddenly got mean" thing is kind of late to the scene.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
9. It started with Rush and am hate radio.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:19 PM
Oct 2021

Fox amplified the message and businesses around the country freely promoted it by playing the station 24/7. Throw in the personification of it all, Twitler, and here we are. The pandemic doesn’t have thing to do with it.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
10. I think the pandemic is exposing more of what already existed.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:23 PM
Oct 2021

I think Trump did as well. He fed it and nurtured it. He still is feeding it and nurturing it. As are many in Congress who embrace the madness. Same with certain media outlets and pundits.

But this fear and ignorance already existed - and it is fear and ignorance. Fear and ignorance can make a person mean. Can make groups of people mean and hateful.

They're human. Just not very nice humans. And they have people with power who validate their fear and ignorance for their own purposes. They need to keep it fed.

They have feelings and concerns but their fear and ignorance prevents them from understanding the world isn't out to get them simply because the world is changing. Their fear and ignorance causes them to blame the wrong people for their problems and to lash out in completely inappropriate ways.

They build a reality in their minds they can feel safe in and anything, everything, and everyone who threatens that reality must be stopped.

Even when they present no threat at all because for those who live in fear and ignorance, not being just like them is the biggest threat of all.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
17. Ya think?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:44 PM
Oct 2021

You're not pining for those kind days of yesteryear?









Someone was rude at a school board meeting! Oh my, what have we become!

Some of the wrong people are on the receiving end of what's been dished up in this country to many for a long time.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
19. I think it's more than simply a case of someone being rude - there's rude behavior and then there's
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021

behavior indicative of something truly ugly behind the words and actions.

I do agree that the ugly in America has plenty of examples and our history shows it.

If you click on my sig-line link you'll see more of what I think.

It's a link to the Salon expose on Abu Ghraib.

The comment, "Shared narrative of deceptions and delusions delivered in good faith", is my way of saying America agreed on a false narrative to explain away its war crimes (fear, DOJ said it was legal, didn't go beyond the memos, shit happens, more or less).

Based on a comment from a politician at the time who said we had to agree on a narrative about America's actions under Bush.



GETTINGTIRED

(330 posts)
11. fools long before.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:23 PM
Oct 2021

there are other folks that face greater stress than those brought on by the pandemic, and those folks don't have a choice and they carry themselves with dignity and fortitude everyday,
if asking someone to help protect themselves and others by wearing a mask causes folks to act a fool they were fools long before.
the pandemic just as trump gave folks a gateway to show their true ugly nature.

Crunchy Frog

(26,581 posts)
14. We were losing our humanity long before the pandemic.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:30 PM
Oct 2021

The pandemic is just throwing it into sharp relief.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. Can someone remind me in what year we hit "peak humanity"?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:37 PM
Oct 2021

When, narrowed down to a particular year, was the pinnacle of the US generally being a place overfilled with kindhearted people overflowing with goodness?

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
18. The pandemic is not to blame, All Media is.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 02:55 PM
Oct 2021

There are certainly gradients of blame here with Right Wing propaganda AND politicians who spout it it in the first place being those with the most blame. However, to just pin this on right wingers is not getting to the core of the story. All media, operating on the profit motive in the Capitalist system, is to blame.

I am not touting Marxism here. Lord knows that the application of Marxism in actual society has lead to poor results. One of the critiques of Capitalism from Marxist point of view however, is the alienation of labor, or laborers from their work, from each other, and from community. The competition pits people against each other and the promotion of scarcity promotes the idea of selfishness. There are certainly finite resources, but what I am talking about is money. People compete for access to money. Media competes to bring the "latest" most sensational news and they drive the narratives that we see.

Right wing guilt is obvious. They plain and simply lie, all the time. Mainstream media, while attempting to be objective, rarely is. They push what sells. If it isn't sensational, don't flat out lie, but make it sensational. Instead of reporting how Republicans are pushing for policies that put economic gains over public safety, make it about how Democrats and Republicans are FIGHTING about policies.

This "us v. them" mentality has been promoted by both right wing and mainstream media outlets to the point that we do fail to see the humanity in each other.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
21. It's not the pandemic. It's Facebook.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 03:09 PM
Oct 2021

Facebook was supposed to unite us. Instead it's had the opposite effect - it's made us more divided than ever. People live in their own bubbles and get propaganda thrown at them 24 hours a day, which has made them become radicalized and very weird. And you can almost instantly tell what side people are on by what talking points they begin spewing - and most are either from Fox News or far right sources on Facebook.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
22. None so blind. The pandemic is not to blame
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 03:13 PM
Oct 2021

what is to "blame", is the breakdown of a society based on lies. To this moment in time, I am incredulous at what people in this country do, think, and say. I got involved in politics to understand my own life. How politics shaped the world and the people in it. Not to blame, but to follow the cause and effect, after effect, after effect that led to Here. I know my birds-eye view is unique, as is that of us all. The problem, or 'blame' I see, is the complete obfuscation of truth.

Biophilic

(3,651 posts)
23. No, we are not losing our humanity.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 04:33 PM
Oct 2021

A small, vocal and violent group within our country (and also within other countries) are acting out and hurting themselves and others, but most of us are NOT losing our humanity. Every day I see acts of kindness and courtesy to both friends and strangers. Do not believe this lie. I'm beginning to think that articles like this are plants to get us all to question each other and our motives. We are NOT losing our humanity, by golly.

traitorsgalore

(1,396 posts)
25. Did grocery pickup today, maskholes going in and out and I thought "germ warfare"
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 04:36 PM
Oct 2021

Going to a Wegman's store, even though I don't go in and do curbside pickup instead, is like going into a germ warfare battle. Multiple pandemic soldiers and variant breeders opening fire on everyone, is what I thought. Less alarming but still horrible, I thought of all the disease-spreading, filthy, self-loathing, stupid-as-fuck, selfish pseudo-murderers that couldn't give a shit about how many lives they're endangering.

That's just going to a store! We have lost our humanity. Those covidiot maskholes shouldn't be allowed anywhere indoors that is as crowded as a grocery store. There's no enforcement of mask policies, just an acceptance that it's your decision to go in and expose yourself to germ warfare because stores have to make money, period.

Our lives are meaningless, money is all that matters in our covicidal culture of death.

Response to traitorsgalore (Reply #25)

Elessar Zappa

(13,981 posts)
26. People haven't changed.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 04:40 PM
Oct 2021

Humanity has always been filled with assholes. Look at how black people and other minorities (and women) have been treated for the entirety of this country’s history.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
28. The people with
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 05:38 PM
Oct 2021

Dark triad personalities are to blame.

And these abusive toxic manipulating pieces of shit in human suits are more numerous than you'd think.

They suck at being human.

They are evil hearted monsters.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
31. I agree w Biophilic - Still MORE Kind People than not...
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 06:49 PM
Oct 2021

🤔
Dark Triad, and lesser versions types have always been around. They often do get amplified by modern news, and social platforms. TFG certainty give them "permission" to really get out there.

Then there's the "if it bleeds, it leads" adage.

Anyway, I see kindness, and consideration often in my
big ole 💖 NYC. I've the giver of, and receipiant of such

Look at the kindnesses often shown right here on DU.

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