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The Committee continues to investigate Trumps efforts to involve DOJ in his election subversion scheme, including by pursuing Trump White House records that NARA has thus far been unable to produce and additional witness interviews as appropriate. Given the gravity of the misconduct the Committee has uncovered to date, howeverand in the interest of making a public record of Trumps efforts to compromise DOJs independencethe Committee is releasing this interim staff report. The report makes six primary findings:
FINDING 1: President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.
FINDING 2: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asked Acting Attorney General Rosen to initiate election fraud investigations on multiple occasions, violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law-enforcement matters.
FINDING 3: After personally meeting with Trump, Jeffrey Bossert Clark pushed Rosen and Donoghue to assist Trumps election subversion schemeand told Rosen he would decline Trumps potential offer to install him as Acting Attorney General if Rosen agreed to aid that scheme.
FINDING 4: Trump allies with links to the Stop the Steal movement and the January 6 insurrection participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.
FINDING 5: Trump forced the resignation of U.S. Attorney Byung Jin (BJay) Pak, whom he believed was not doing enough to address false claims of election fraud in Georgia. Trump then went outside the line of succession when naming an Acting U.S. Attorney, bypassing First Assistant U.S. Attorney Kurt Erskine and instead appointing Bobby Christine because he believed Christine would do something about his election fraud claims.
FINDING 6: By pursuing false claims of election fraud before votes were certified, DOJ deviated from longstanding practice meant to avoid inserting DOJ itself as an issue in the election.
Source: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim%20Staff%20Report%20FINAL.pdf
So. It looks like We the People can prove Trump is a traitor.
msongs
(67,403 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)Did hear on the radio they were sore pissed and issued their own report stating Trump was a swell guy when it comes to investigating election fraud. I dont think Grassley used the word integrity.
spanone
(135,830 posts)TABLE OF CONTENTS
I. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
II. INTRODUCTION
III. THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT USE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION
IV. PRESIDENT TRUMPS CONCERNS CENTERED ON LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS AND REPORTS OF CRIMES AND HOW THEY IMPACTED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM; WITNESSES STATED HIS CONCERNS WERE NOT UNREASONABLE
V. PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT EXERT IMPROPER INFLUENCE ON THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HAD NO IMPACT ON THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENTS ELECTION ACTIVITIES, AND HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS STEMMED FROM A DISTRUST OF JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND FBI LEADERSHIP.
BLAH BLAH BLAH......
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/in_their_own_words_a_factual_summary_of_testimony_from_senior_justice_department_officials_relating_to_events_from_december_14_2020_to_january_3_2021.pdf
triron
(22,001 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)But, yeah. People are starting to forget what happened and remember what Rupert Murdochs shoveling.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)And the hundreds of indictments and hundreds of criminal defendants winding their way through the courts across the land, as a result of the January soft coup attempt, are not forgetting.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)diminished.
The criminals sentenced to date all plead guilty, the lowest foot soldiers taking orders. Guilty pleas are per se indicators of remorse, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, and is a major mitigating factor in sentence.
Many more will be sentenced after trial in the weeks ahead , the sentences will escalate according to the guilty verdicts, remorse will have to be proven.
Have every confidence the sentences were appropriate for each under each individual circumstances.
The Brownshirt leaders sentences will be measured in years
their time in the criminal court barrel will just be a matter of time.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)I understand they are moving legally...but it is the PR part of the game that is sorely lacking.
WE The PEOPLE need to know something is being done sooner rather then later.
Big messaging fail by DOJ so far.
Offered as constructive criticism.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Ofc the waiting is frustrating but that is how major and minor and everything in between is done by the FBI. In excruciating silence, so frustration for the victims, take comfort in the agony for investigated targets.
Before the hammer falls.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)The issue is the DOJ is not communicating with We The People in an EFFECTVE manner.
Maybe they are , but the MSM is not covering that part - if that is the case the DOJ needs to call out the MSM.
Joe and Jane Sixpack have very short memories, and they are taking the lack of anyone higher up getting charged as no one high up did anything wrong - this is the meme Fox News is propagating everywhere.
The DOJ public relations folks need to push back and get the common person interested again, otherwise in 2022 it all will get lost in the noise the RW is going to raise.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Have a good day.
Goodbye.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,985 posts)Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)them? I hope it is! Right now I'm like you extremely pessimistic. But carry on!
druidity33
(6,446 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)One thing we know is you, Rosen, arent going to do anything to overturn the election. Putindent Donald J. Trump, Senate Judiciary report pp. 38
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Pak was doing his job. He knew there was nothing there.
Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)
to ensure that no GQP candidate ever has to lose a selection again.
Voting Laws Roundup: October 2021
In an unprecedented year so far for voting legislation, 19 states have enacted 33 laws that will make it harder for Americans to vote.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)Efforts to involve DOJ in Trumps election subversion scheme continued on December 28, when Clark approached Rosen and Donoghue with an audacious proposal: DOJ should inform the legislatures of Georgia and several other states that it was investigating voting irregularities, and recommend that each state legislature call a special session to consider appointing an alternate slate of electors.
Senate Judiciary report, pp. 19
Some concept, Treason.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)I thought law enforcement agencies would be racing each other to see who could arrest him first.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)Sheldon Whitehouse dropped a bombshell, Jeffrey Clark wasn't acting alone, someone, some group was backing him. Whitehouse said the name of the group but I missed it. Whitehouse also used the words grand jury when speaking of Clark.
If anyone remembers who the group was please enlighten.
Martin68
(22,794 posts)preliminary list of charges for which there is substantial corroborating evidence. I have high hopes.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)In Judge Garland, I trust.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)this in one place, but didn't we already know it?
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Proven.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)the media. Courts have slightly higher standards for admission of evidence.
The reports provide the needed leap over the barrier.
Although confident Judge Garland knows all this already, and so much more detail.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)This bothers me the most.
Remember all the delays and obfuscation during the transition?
I know it is said by data experts that data never really disappears.
Let's hope that is true.
If it it can be proven that someone or group actually worked at making data disappear that is a crime in and of itself, right? Who worked so hard at making whatever NARA is looking for disappear?
What kind of data are we even talking about?
That may be key.
Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)The 1/6 committee now has the momentous task of sorting through the details and obtaining documents and testimony from witnesses who may or may not be cooperative.
ASSOCIATED PRESS / October 8, 2021
Excerpt
The letter from White House counsel Dana Remus to the Archivist of the United States comes at the start of a potentially lengthy legal battle over the investigation. Trump, who told his supporters to fight like hell the morning of the insurrection and has defended the rioters who beat police and broke into the Capitol, is trying to block Congress from learning more. Biden has so far sided with House Democrats, who have asked for thousands of pages of documents and subpoenaed witnesses connected to Trump.
The House committee investigating the insurrection, which formed over the summer, now has the momentous task of sorting through the details and obtaining documents and testimony from witnesses who may or may not be cooperative. And the jockeying between the two administrations, Congress and the witnesses is certain to delay the investigation and set the stage for messy litigation that could stretch well into 2022.
Snip
Remus wrote that Biden has determined that invoking executive privilege is not in the best interests of the United States. The House panel had asked for the records, including communication within the White House under Trump and information about planning and funding for rallies held in Washington. Among those events was a rally near the White House the morning of Jan. 6 featuring remarks by Trump, who egged on a crowd of thousands protesting Biden's win.
Remus wrote that the documents shed light on events within the White House on and about January 6 and bear on the Select Committees need to understand the facts underlying the most serious attack on the operations of the Federal Government since the Civil War.
Continues
https://www.courthousenews.com/biden-wont-invoke-executive-privilege-on-trump-jan-6-docs/